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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:08 pm    Post subject: gnome 2.22 and mounting removable media etc Reply with quote

can't mount a usb stick. get the error

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Unable to mount location
Can't mount file


is this happening to others? by the way, i read the gnome 2.22 user manual and I did not emerge gnome-volume-manager with automount.

also drives listed in fstab are no longer found in the Computer location (i.e. things such as nfs folders).
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the same problem. USB sticks mount fine and display on the desktop, but I disabled gnome-volume-manager in my session. CDs however, do not mount automatically at all. I can mount CDs as my normal user just fine though, but I get the same error as you do when I click on the CD drive in the "Computer" location.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'll try disabling gvm
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sargek wrote:
I get the same error as you do when I click on the CD drive in the "Computer" location.


I get the same error!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i'll try disabling gvm


Well, according to the 2.22 upgrade guide, gnome-volume-manager is still needed, but for things like cameras. So might want to re-enable it. I re-emerged gnome-volume-manager with the "-automount" flag but the only thing that automounts now is usb sticks. CDs still do not automount and appear on the desktop. I get the "can't mount file" error. Oddly enough when I put in a blank cdr, it shows on the desktop, but data cds do not.

This is frustrating...
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hav0c wrote:
sargek wrote:
I get the same error as you do when I click on the CD drive in the "Computer" location.


I get the same error!
I can't mount any device using that method either. However auto-mounting dose work to some degree, even though it is unpredictable and buggy at best. My internal CD (Optical Drives) drives get handled by Nautilus from what I can figure out. It also seems that the media inserted into them is handled differently every time I insert the same piece of media into the one of the drives. Sometimes the media mounted will show on the desktop and sometimes it won't, but it will still appear in the /media directory. :? :?

There are several posts in the forms and several bugs reports concerning this condition in the new Gnome-2.22 release. My system has become very unstable and unpredictable sense this update. I now wish I would have masked the new gnome release and waited a while longer.

What happens when you insert media in your CD drives that are listed in the "Computer" location? Does the media get mounted then?

All my of my usb devices seem to work quite well at the moment.
Here is a quote from this FORM POST
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it seems usb automount gets broken with recent udev and older kernels (less or equal to 2.6.23)
While I am using the gentoo-2.6.23-r8 kernel I don't seem to have this problem. So I am assuming any revision (-r*) of 2.6.23 is ok with the new version of udev
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I insert a CD, nothing happens, period, except for blank CDs showing on the desktop. When I click on the CD drive icon in "Computer", I get the "can't mount file" error. I can manually mount data CDs after I insert them
Code:
mount /dev/cdrom
, but if I am going to have to do that, why am I running a DE - I might as well be running Fluxbox or something...

My camera does work though - I use gthumb and the
Code:
--import-photos
switch.

oops, forgot: running 2.6.25-gentoo-r7 kernel.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sargek wrote:
When I insert a CD, nothing happens, period, except for blank CDs showing on the desktop. When I click on the CD drive icon in "Computer", I get the "can't mount file" error. I can manually mount data CDs after I insert them
Code:
mount /dev/cdrom


You might try this as it works for me. Comment out anything in your /etc/fstab that points to your internal CD Drives like so
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# <fs>         <mountpoint>   <type>      <opts>      <dump/pass>

# NOTE: If your BOOT partition is ReiserFS, add the notail option to opts.
/dev/sda1      /boot      ext2      noauto,noatime   1 2
/dev/sda3      /      ext3      noatime      0 1
/dev/sda2      none      swap      sw      0 0
#/dev/hda      /mnt/cdrom   auto      noauto,ro,user   0 0 <---commented out
#/dev/hdb      /mnt/cdrw   auto      noauto,rw,user   0 0  <---commented out
/dev/fd0      /mnt/floppy   auto      noauto,user   0 0

# NOTE: The next line is critical for boot!
none         /proc      proc      defaults   0 0
As much as I can determine at the moment, gnome-volume-manager is still handling all usb and firewire events and devices including external usb cd drives. However, Nautilus is now handling internal drives and files systems and doing a crappy job of it at the moment. Having these devices listed in your fstab seems to conflict with Nautilus. Preventing the media from mounting.

The draw back is that I am not sure you can manually mount any media in the devices from a terminal or command line should your DE crash without having first to re-enable them in your /etc/fstab. I haven't tested this condition yet.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll try that, thanks for the tip. You could be right about not being able to mount if the DE crashes, but it's a simple matter to uncomment the line in fstab.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually, i am running an 2.6.18 kernel. i will *try* and upgrade, but my laptops sleep functions are somewhat fragile. maybe this will help.

one thing though, how could the gnome devs release something that is so broken? this sucks.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OldTango wrote:
sargek wrote:
When I insert a CD, nothing happens, period, except for blank CDs showing on the desktop. When I click on the CD drive icon in "Computer", I get the "can't mount file" error. I can manually mount data CDs after I insert them
Code:
mount /dev/cdrom


You might try this as it works for me. Comment out anything in your /etc/fstab that points to your internal CD Drives like so
Code:

# <fs>         <mountpoint>   <type>      <opts>      <dump/pass>

# NOTE: If your BOOT partition is ReiserFS, add the notail option to opts.
/dev/sda1      /boot      ext2      noauto,noatime   1 2
/dev/sda3      /      ext3      noatime      0 1
/dev/sda2      none      swap      sw      0 0
#/dev/hda      /mnt/cdrom   auto      noauto,ro,user   0 0 <---commented out
#/dev/hdb      /mnt/cdrw   auto      noauto,rw,user   0 0  <---commented out
/dev/fd0      /mnt/floppy   auto      noauto,user   0 0

# NOTE: The next line is critical for boot!
none         /proc      proc      defaults   0 0
As much as I can determine at the moment, gnome-volume-manager is still handling all usb and firewire events and devices including external usb cd drives. However, Nautilus is now handling internal drives and files systems and doing a crappy job of it at the moment. Having these devices listed in your fstab seems to conflict with Nautilus. Preventing the media from mounting.

The draw back is that I am not sure you can manually mount any media in the devices from a terminal or command line should your DE crash without having first to re-enable them in your /etc/fstab. I haven't tested this condition yet.


It works! :D
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesnt work for me that well.

CDs automount quite well (the icon it shows was somewhat awkward for a CD drive, though), but I can't get my usb sticks to work properly.
If I didn't like Gnome I think I'd have switched by now to xfce or kde. But I still hope there's a solution around?
Any other ideas apart from commenting out fstab (what an idea!)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clad in Sky wrote:
Doesnt work for me that well.

CDs automount quite well (the icon it shows was somewhat awkward for a CD drive, though), but I can't get my usb sticks to work properly.
If I didn't like Gnome I think I'd have switched by now to xfce or kde. But I still hope there's a solution around?
Any other ideas apart from commenting out fstab (what an idea!)


Yeah, I was thinking the same thing about the fstab...now we have a system that won't mount cd's without the desktop. A fundamental piece of the system has been broken, at least in my opinion. I love Gnome - I sure hope they fix this soon, or at least have a plan in the works.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

is this commenting out supposed to work with nfs folders?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i upgraded my kernel to 2.6.24.7, still doesn't work. that is, usb sticks don't mount. haven't even tried a cd. i am using hal 0.5.11-r1.

my sleep, however, works with my new kernel, so that is good.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, no need to upgrade my kernel in a hurry...

I just don't get it, there seem to be tons of people without any issues...

I realized that when plugging in a USB memory stick my CD-drive begins to spin.
if I restart hald I can even get the stick to be shown in "Computer". I still won't be able to mount it. It will be mounted after a reboot, but I won't reboot to get this thing working, that's even more ridiculous than windows.
But perhaps someone can make something of that?
Error in HAL?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

did a bunch of searches, tried a bunch of stuff. nothing.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you in the plugdev group?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you in the plugdev group?
yup. everything worked fine in gnome 2.20.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

does the settings in: gnome-volume-properties look sane
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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does the settings in: gnome-volume-properties look sane


there is nothing there about usb sticks.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

right make a new user and login as said user and try again

This could be one of those times that hosing ~/.gnome* ~/.gconf* and co is needed
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

is this problem now finally solved?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naib wrote:
right make a new user and login as said user and try again

This could be one of those times that hosing ~/.gnome* ~/.gconf* and co is needed


good idea, didn't work though.

do you have any special files in /etc/hal/fdi/policy ? I just have 10-x11-input.fdi.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

same problem here. tried removing gnome-volume-manager but didn't work.
The usb stick only appears as a drive after I do a manual mount.
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