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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For me it was the main feature - :cry:

i've opened a discussion there » I'stay in hope » perhaps i should pray to the developers God :lol:

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I don't see how 2D array of desktop is not enough for anyone
than why compitz .....why not back to console
sry

My E17 on the AMD X2 has some problems with other programms
i.e cinelerra-cvs starts with a lot of missing theme pictures
(i'll post some output next time i start E17)

But my old P4 1800+ 1GB RAM / IBM SCSI 120GB HWRaid10 (was an old Server)
is runnig well with E17
My doughter (7) loves this golden theme - all games for kidds are working well
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For me it was the main feature - :cry:

i've opened a discussion there » I'stay in hope » perhaps i should pray to the developers God :lol:
I would recommend you to search the e-users and e-devel mailing lists. This subject has come up before and the developers are not going to introduce that multiple desktops feature in e17. Reasons behind this decision are there somewhere in those mails ;)
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has E17 got a usable systray?
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Has E17 got a usable systray?

usable - not so far, but I found http://slacke17.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/slacke17/e_systray/ - not very impressive - but it means you can have systray in E17
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And what of the annoying "to me" habit of putting a desktop icon for every mounted drive on the desktop behavior?
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And what of the annoying "to me" habit of putting a desktop icon for every mounted drive on the desktop behavior?
My solution: I stacked _all_ of those icons under a non-transparent shelf :lol: Fortunately, e17's desktop icon placement is very good (correctly places icons at exactly same position as you left it before logout). Additionally, it allows you to stack icons on top of each other. :D
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you saying there is no way to just turn it off? It's anoying as hell and something I dispise the current incarnation of Gnome for.
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm. I disable desktop icons anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

where is that setting?
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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where is that setting?
Configuration->Filemanager
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GOt it, much better now.

Now to figure out a few other things, like how to get my ipod in E17/Ecomorph to automout and the like.

Toughts?
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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GOt it, much better now.

Now to figure out a few other things, like how to get my ipod in E17/Ecomorph to automout and the like.

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http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ivman
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

is ivman really a better option then say gnome-volume-manager?
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is little off-topic, but:
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Now to figure out a few other things, like how to get my ipod in E17/Ecomorph to automout and the like.

As I hate 'ten thousand of daemons' working - my solution is simple:
if you need to automount only usb devices - it can be done only with udev (which is standard in most of distros)
my example is:
/etc/udev/rules.d/10-autousb.rules:

KERNEL=="sd[a-z]", NAME="%k", SYMLINK+="usbhd-%k", GROUP="users", OPTIONS="last_rule"
ACTION=="add", KERNEL=="sd[a-z][0-9]", SYMLINK+="usbhd-%k", GROUP="users", NAME="%k"
ACTION=="add", KERNEL=="sd[a-z][0-9]", RUN+="/bin/mkdir -p /media/usbhd-%k"
# ACTION=="add", KERNEL=="sd[a-z][0-9]", RUN+="/bin/ln -s /media/usbhd-%k /mnt/usbhd-%k"
ACTION=="add", KERNEL=="sd[a-z][0-9]", PROGRAM=="/lib/udev/vol_id -t %N", RESULT=="vfat", RUN+="/bin/mount -t vfat -o rw,noauto,flush,quiet,nodev,nosuid,noexec,noatime,dmask=000,fmask=111 /dev/%k /media/usbhd-%k", OPTIONS="last_rule"
ACTION=="add", KERNEL=="sd[a-z][0-9]", RUN+="/bin/mount -t auto -o rw,noauto,sync,dirsync,noexec,nodev,noatime /dev/%k /media/usbhd-%k", OPTIONS="last_rule"
ACTION=="remove", KERNEL=="sd[a-z][0-9]", RUN+="/bin/rm -f /mnt/usbhd-%k"
ACTION=="remove", KERNEL=="sd[a-z][0-9]", RUN+="/bin/umount -l /media/usbhd-%k"
ACTION=="remove", KERNEL=="sd[a-z][0-9]", RUN+="/bin/rmdir /media/usbhd-%k", OPTIONS="last_rule"

simple and clean / no other daemons required
and you can add more actions during pluging ipod eg. sync with ACTION command
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I control a couple of devices through ivman,- usb devices, sd card, dvds, etc. I like ivman since it is desktop independent (I sometimes use kde for short periods of time). Right now I have it set up to interface with some of my own scripts which give me only the options which I want.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys how to make pulseaudio and networkmanager works in E17?.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used ivman for a long time but since it doesn't update my fstab any more and my normal user can't unmount it using the unmount button in my filemanager (xfe), I switched to udev rules and it works perfectly :)

The udev solution is low-level and can be used with all DEs.
Since e17 is my main (but not my only) DE I prefer to use environment independent settings.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tariella wrote:
I used ivman for a long time but since it doesn't update my fstab any more and my normal user can't unmount it using the unmount button in my filemanager (xfe), I switched to udev rules and it works perfectly :)

The udev solution is low-level and can be used with all DEs.
Since e17 is my main (but not my only) DE I prefer to use environment independent settings.
The unmount button by default in any filemanager will call umount, whereas when devices are mounted through ivman, you are supposed to use pumount (mounting is done using pmount or pmount-hal). I have rox configured to unmount using pumount instead of umount.
Secondly, the whole purpose of hal+ivman combination is to be able to mount/unmount any device without having any entry in /etc/fstab and without modifying it either.

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Guys how to make pulseaudio and networkmanager works in E17?.
I use knetworkmanager as the frontend. I believe some devs are working on a networkmanager frontend based on EFL, but it is not yet complete.

EDIT: I should add that simply mounting/unmounting is not the only purpose of ivman. It can be used to trigger differ programs depending on the (new) device (camera, dvd, cd, etc) that is added to the system.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi everyone.

Decided to try an e17 only setup of Gentoo Linux and things seem to be going vary well. I have ran into a bootup problem, which I have a thread on, but it is not the fault of e17 or entrance. I was wondering if you all could give an update on the apps that can go with e17. Example is the entropy, which I'm having a bit of trouble finding info about.

Here is what I have so far, but no close to be done with this setup.

Dell C640
P4m 1.8 gig
ati 7900m
Linksys wireless (will be on this week, this will be a fun one)

Programs:
Entrance (not in full use till I get the xorg "xdm" boot problem fix)
E17
Audacious
gkrellm
k3b (compiling as I type this)
firefox
aslamixergui

I love the look but would like to play with the themes and get more apps for this thing. This is a playtop for my to try some new tricks with computers and I'm having some fun with it. As of now, everything seems to be working well.I'm post a screenshot with I have it finished.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

makton3g wrote:

Here is what I have so far, but no close to be done with this setup.
Programs:
Entrance (not in full use till I get the xorg "xdm" boot problem fix)
E17
Audacious
gkrellm
k3b (compiling as I type this)
firefox
aslamixergui
Audacious -> amarok? (only if you like the features of amarok)
gkrellm -> conky? (though e_modules has a couple of basic additional system monitors)
alsamixergui -> gamix?
Other application suggestions (by suggestions I mean the applications I use ;)) can be provided depending on what else you want to do :P
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Audacious -> amarok? (only if you like the features of amarok)
gkrellm -> conky? (though e_modules has a couple of basic additional system monitors)
alsamixergui -> gamix?
Other application suggestions (by suggestions I mean the applications I use ;)) can be provided depending on what else you want to do :P


Umm, I was actually stating "designed for E17" like embryo. Modules to bring the flames back and such.
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Umm, I was actually stating "designed for E17" like embryo. Modules to bring the flames back and such.
Best way is to browse this (cvs) site: http://e.kevb.net/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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seems to work really good. Committed that into cvs, well done! :)

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On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 10:57:06PM +0200, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've just now migrated the tiling module from the old server dev.twice-irc.de
> > to code.stapelberg.de with a working CACert-SSL-certificate and IPv6-support.
> > You can now find it at https://code.stapelberg.de/git/?p=e17-tiling/.git;a=summary
> > To change your git-repository, just edit .git/config and replace the old URL
> > with git://code.stapelberg.de/e17-tiling
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> > Of course, the mirror at staff.get-e.org still exists.
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> > Furthermore, I now consider the module stable. I've been using it for nearly
> > two months and yesterday I fixed the only bug I've encountered during these two
> > months (only showed up when using xinerama).
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> > Therefore, I'd be happy to see it in official CVS. I've mailed raster about
> > this, but he seems to be quite busy. If anyone of you wants to merge, please
> > apply the included desk.patch to apps/e/src/bin first and then put the module
> > in e_modules/tiling - thanks!
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> > Best regards,
> > Michael


Nice to see this in there. :)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rainskellr wrote:
Nice to see this in there. :)
Works nice. I like that you can have different desktops in different modes :D
I had to start with a fresh config since it used to segfault (whenever I enabled tiling on *only* one desktop) with my old one.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Everyone,
I followed "HOWTO e17" wiki and got it going. The question is there a way to change the font size? Fonts dialog in Configuration doesn't seem to apply the font size I choose.

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