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How long until hardened and toolchain will produce a hardened gcc4?
1 year
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5 years
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10 years
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lifetime
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eternity
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can any add -fno-strict-overflow to CFLAGS and run emerge -e word or system??
Will add it later to spec
http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.2/changes.html
http://rafb.net/p/JYogSJ77.html


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With -fstrict-overflow, the compiler may assume that signed overflow will not occur, and transform this into an infinite loop. -fstrict-overflow is turned on by default at -O2, and may be disabled via -fno-strict-overflow.


ouch ! 8O

good to know, thanks, I'll change that in my make.conf instantly

I can do that at earliest in september / october, so you might want to count / rely on someone else's feedback on that ...

thanks

update:

ok, I'll re-emerge system & see how that goes, in case something goes wrong, there's the stage4-tarball & I'll let you know :idea: :)
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ok, system works fine so far (packages I still need to compile: glibc, gettext, nano, ruby), :)

all packages compiled in the future will use -fno-strict-overflow,

if I encounter any problems I'll let you know :idea:
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Test for strict-overflow with new spec
laptop1 ~ # cat test.strict-overflow.c
Code:

#include <assert.h>

int foo(int a) {
  assert(a + 100 > a);
  printf("%d %d\n", a + 100, a);
  return a;
}

int main(void) {
  foo(100);
}

gcc -O2 -Wall test.strict-overflow.c -o test.strict-overflow
laptop1 ~ # grep '__assert_fail' test.strict-overflow
Binär fil test.strict-overflow matchar :D
laptop1 ~ #
gcc -O2 -Wall -fstrict-overflow test.strict-overflow.c -o test.strict-overflow
laptop1 ~ # grep '__assert_fail' test.strict-overflow
laptop1 ~ #
:D
will update pie patch and spec later.
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Fix the test
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New spec and pie patch is in the master git overlay
Need to update pie patch for 4.3.1 to so it works whit new eclass files.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zorry wrote:
New spec and pie patch is in the master git overlay
Need to update pie patch for 4.3.1 to so it works whit new eclass files.


Nice work, Zorry!

I am still a little pissed at myself for not masking glibc-2.8 at the beginning. It only breaks stuff currently for me (mainly gcc, can recompile it for some reason, even with fortify disabled). Still libiberty that breaks...
...and I work too much to have time find and fix...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zorry wrote:
New spec and pie patch is in the master git overlay
Need to update pie patch for 4.3.1 to so it works whit new eclass files.


4.2.4 hardened - openoffice combo update:
- both boost and openoffice can be compiled with nosspall and nofortify, but with ssp enabled.
- I'll test it tomorrow

As I can make it out, the strict-overflow setting is also applicable to 4.2.4, so it should be probably handled in the 4.2.4 version, which is about to hit portage. Or should we concentrate on 4.3.1 instead?
All packages so far are fine an running using the 4.2.4 toolchain. At least I could compile mozilla-suit applications (firefox, thunderbird...) and ekiga related stuff (opal, libpw, libpurple) with sspall and openoffice with ssp. That's a huge improvement.

I'll sync tomorrow or the day after or on Friday - depending on the amount of work I'll face.

When should I upgrade to 4.3.1? I think I'll try it in August.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recommend putting your efforts into gcc-4.3.x. gcc-4.2.x is likely to be skipped for stable
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I recommend putting your efforts into gcc-4.3.x. gcc-4.2.x is likely to be skipped for stable

All bugs we fund on 4.2 will we have on 4.3 to.
And then we have the O_CREAT bugs on 4.3 https://hardened.gentooexperimental.org/secure/ticket/29
Ween coders can't write good code :evil:
And how stabel is gcc 4.3 and glibc 2.7?
So we don't get errors when it is the compiler that is b0rked or packages and not the hardened toolchain.
I think we can try stuff on 4.2 and then if it works move it to 4.3.
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And how stabel is gcc 4.3 and glibc 2.7?


works fine here,

if you meant 2.8 - I can't tell, Xake prevented me from testing :wink: (I need a working system)
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Have updated 4.3 in the git testing branch.
But have not updated the Manifest files yet.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dwokfur wrote:

4.2.4 hardened - openoffice combo update:
- both boost and openoffice can be compiled with nosspall and nofortify, but with ssp enabled.
- I'll test it tomorrow


openoffice-ssp & boost-ssp combo is functioning correctly for me.

No time for sync yesterday. Probably not today. Maybe tomorrow. Reason: MF work.

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zorry wrote:
nixnut wrote:
I recommend putting your efforts into gcc-4.3.x. gcc-4.2.x is likely to be skipped for stable

All bugs we fund on 4.2 will we have on 4.3 to.
I don't think so. You'll find bugs with/in the 4.2 toolchain. With 4.3 you'll find some things are already fixed and there will be new things. And you'll find packages being broken with gcc-4.3 and glibc-2.8 because they are more strict.
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And then we have the O_CREAT bugs on 4.3 https://hardened.gentooexperimental.org/secure/ticket/29
And how stabel is gcc 4.3 and glibc 2.7?
gcc-4.3 is a lot stricter so a number of packages are revealed as having been coded a bit sloppilly (or wrongly). One category is the O_CREAT bugs that manifest themselves if you enable fortify-source. See the gcc-4.3 tracker bug for others. Most get fixed pretty quickly, often with patches from other distributions. In my experience gcc-4.3 + glibc-2.8 works pretty well.
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So we don't get errors when it is the compiler that is b0rked or packages and not the hardened toolchain.
I think we can try stuff on 4.2 and then if it works move it to 4.3.
Most of the errors you see are broken packages. It's the toolchain that now shows that these packages are buggy. It's not the toolchain that's b0rked in those cases.
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nixnut wrote:
zorry wrote:
nixnut wrote:
I recommend putting your efforts into gcc-4.3.x. gcc-4.2.x is likely to be skipped for stable

All bugs we fund on 4.2 will we have on 4.3 to.
I don't think so. You'll find bugs with/in the 4.2 toolchain. With 4.3 you'll find some things are already fixed and there will be new things. And you'll find packages being broken with gcc-4.3 and glibc-2.8 because they are more strict.
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And then we have the O_CREAT bugs on 4.3 https://hardened.gentooexperimental.org/secure/ticket/29
And how stabel is gcc 4.3 and glibc 2.7?
gcc-4.3 is a lot stricter so a number of packages are revealed as having been coded a bit sloppilly (or wrongly). One category is the O_CREAT bugs that manifest themselves if you enable fortify-source. See the gcc-4.3 tracker bug for others. Most get fixed pretty quickly, often with patches from other distributions. In my experience gcc-4.3 + glibc-2.8 works pretty well.
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So we don't get errors when it is the compiler that is b0rked or packages and not the hardened toolchain.
I think we can try stuff on 4.2 and then if it works move it to 4.3.
Most of the errors you see are broken packages. It's the toolchain that now shows that these packages are buggy. It's not the toolchain that's b0rked in those cases.

I will add all O_CREAT bug's that we have patches to b.g.o.
Glibc 2.8 and fortify no hit.
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Glibc 2.8 and fortify no hit.

I'm not sure what you mean, but here's the glibc-2.8 tracker bug
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Glibc 2.8 and fortify no hit.

I'm not sure what you mean, but here's the glibc-2.8 tracker bug

https://hardened.gentooexperimental.org/secure/ticket/33
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zorry wrote:
Glibc 2.8 and fortify no hit.

I'm not sure what you mean, but here's the glibc-2.8 tracker bug


Using glibc-2.8 with FORTIFY=2 breaks in intrestings ways, namely _asprintf being declared in funny way. This leads to gcc, gdb and binutils not being able to compile when FORTIFY=2 is enabled. Currently I can't even recompile gcc with or without forityf with the same errormessage, but I have had no time to dive in to it. Anyone with a chroot (or any gentoo-system with glibc-2.8) can try out, just add FORTIFY=2 to your CFLAG and try to compile anything containing libiberty.
I have not been able to duplicate on ubuntu 8.04, but what they do that gentoo does not I do not know.
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Xake wrote:
nixnut wrote:
zorry wrote:
Glibc 2.8 and fortify no hit.

I'm not sure what you mean, but here's the glibc-2.8 tracker bug


Using glibc-2.8 with FORTIFY=2 breaks in intrestings ways, namely _asprintf being declared in funny way. This leads to gcc, gdb and binutils not being able to compile when FORTIFY=2 is enabled. Currently I can't even recompile gcc with or without forityf with the same errormessage, but I have had no time to dive in to it. Anyone with a chroot (or any gentoo-system with glibc-2.8) can try out, just add FORTIFY=2 to your CFLAG and try to compile anything containing libiberty.
I have not been able to duplicate on ubuntu 8.04, but what they do that gentoo does not I do not know.

Will try it later ween have done the doc's and some small fixes.
what i know did't ubuntu find the O_CREAT bugs we find :)
Looks likes that we have fund more bugs whit or toolchain.
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Xake wrote:
nixnut wrote:
zorry wrote:
Glibc 2.8 and fortify no hit.

I'm not sure what you mean, but here's the glibc-2.8 tracker bug


Using glibc-2.8 with FORTIFY=2 breaks in intrestings ways, namely _asprintf being declared in funny way. This leads to gcc, gdb and binutils not being able to compile when FORTIFY=2 is enabled. Currently I can't even recompile gcc with or without forityf with the same errormessage, but I have had no time to dive in to it. Anyone with a chroot (or any gentoo-system with glibc-2.8) can try out, just add FORTIFY=2 to your CFLAG and try to compile anything containing libiberty.
I have not been able to duplicate on ubuntu 8.04, but what they do that gentoo does not I do not know.

Ah, I see. Ubuntu 8.04 ships with glibc-2.7 doesn't it? That could explain why you haven't seen it on Ubuntu then.
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nixnut wrote:
Xake wrote:
nixnut wrote:
zorry wrote:
Glibc 2.8 and fortify no hit.

I'm not sure what you mean, but here's the glibc-2.8 tracker bug


Using glibc-2.8 with FORTIFY=2 breaks in intrestings ways, namely _asprintf being declared in funny way. This leads to gcc, gdb and binutils not being able to compile when FORTIFY=2 is enabled. Currently I can't even recompile gcc with or without forityf with the same errormessage, but I have had no time to dive in to it. Anyone with a chroot (or any gentoo-system with glibc-2.8) can try out, just add FORTIFY=2 to your CFLAG and try to compile anything containing libiberty.
I have not been able to duplicate on ubuntu 8.04, but what they do that gentoo does not I do not know.

Ah, I see. Ubuntu 8.04 ships with glibc-2.7 doesn't it? That could explain why you haven't seen it on Ubuntu then.

The ar not building glibc 2.8 or 2.7 whit fortify
look in the rule file on glibc_2.8-20080505-0ubuntu6.diff.gz
BUILD_CC = gcc-4.3 -fno-stack-protector -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE
and we have filter-flags -fstack-protector filter-flags -D_FORTIFY_SOURCES=2 in the glib/files/eblits/common.eblit
Will move ticket 33 to 14

EDIT:
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Can u past the error code to ticket 33?

Can someone build it whitout fortify and test it?
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New ebuild for gcc 4.3.1 in testing branch on the git overlay
gcc-4.3.1-r2.ebuild whit the new gentoo paitch 1.1
Need to fix Manifest file.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:07 pm    Post subject: nbd-2.9.11 vs. append-flags from hardened flag-o-matic Reply with quote

I have problem with nbd. Hardened version (from git://github.com/Xake/toolchain-overlay.git) flag-o-matic just eat flag -idirafter from ebuild.
Portage version is OK.

CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe -funroll-loops -fprefetch-loop-arrays -fforce-addr -mno-tls-direct-seg-refs /usr/vartmp/portage/sys-block/nbd-2.9.11/work/nbd-2.9.11/inc-after

-idirafter is completely missing and because it, ebuild failed.

Is it problem only in my environment? Am I broken?
Or this is genuine problem in hardened flag-o-matic?
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qjim wrote:
I have problem with nbd. Hardened version (from git://github.com/Xake/toolchain-overlay.git) flag-o-matic just eat flag -idirafter from ebuild.
Portage version is OK.

CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe -funroll-loops -fprefetch-loop-arrays -fforce-addr -mno-tls-direct-seg-refs /usr/vartmp/portage/sys-block/nbd-2.9.11/work/nbd-2.9.11/inc-after

-idirafter is completely missing and because it, ebuild failed.

Is it problem only in my environment? Am I broken?
Or this is genuine problem in hardened flag-o-matic?

Have updated flag-o-matic
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Have updated e2fsprogs whit a new patch to fix the bugs on it and added it master git and
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nixnut wrote:
Xake wrote:
nixnut wrote:
zorry wrote:
Glibc 2.8 and fortify no hit.

I'm not sure what you mean, but here's the glibc-2.8 tracker bug


Using glibc-2.8 with FORTIFY=2 breaks in intrestings ways, namely _asprintf being declared in funny way. This leads to gcc, gdb and binutils not being able to compile when FORTIFY=2 is enabled. Currently I can't even recompile gcc with or without forityf with the same errormessage, but I have had no time to dive in to it. Anyone with a chroot (or any gentoo-system with glibc-2.8) can try out, just add FORTIFY=2 to your CFLAG and try to compile anything containing libiberty.
I have not been able to duplicate on ubuntu 8.04, but what they do that gentoo does not I do not know.

Ah, I see. Ubuntu 8.04 ships with glibc-2.7 doesn't it? That could explain why you haven't seen it on Ubuntu then.

sys-devel/binutils-2.18-r3 with gcc 4.2.4 glibc 2.8-p20080602
In file included from /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/binutils-2.18-r3/work/binutils-2.18/libiberty/floatformat.c:40:
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/binutils-2.18-r3/work/binutils-2.18/libiberty/../include/libiberty.h:589: error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' before numeric constant
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/binutils-2.18-r3/work/binutils-2.18/libiberty/../include/libiberty.h:589: error: conflicting types for '__asprintf_chk'
/usr/include/bits/stdio2.h:135: error: previous declaration of '__asprintf_chk' was here
make[2]: *** [floatformat.o] Error 1
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
EDIT
Fund a link http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2008-07/msg00292.html
Is only gcc 4.2 have the bug?
update
gcc 4.3 have it too
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have fix some files in testing git overlay
Going to test glibc 2.8 on gcc 4.3.1 see if it works and look on the patch.

UPDATE:
Xake have build gcc, binutils and gdb with the new patch :D
I have build binutils, gcc :D
Will come back later with more info.
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