Alternative installation media.

scawa · Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:15 am Post subject:

I'm confused....

How does one get a fully working Gentoo linux install using a Ubuntu Live CD????
Just asking, 'cause I may be able to get around my problem of the Gentoo Live CD not recognizing my network card (where the Ubuntu does). If there is a discussion on this site, please link me to it.
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d2_racing · Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:34 am Post subject:

The Ubuntu LiveCD has a newer kernel, so the network card is working out of the box.

scawa · Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:48 am Post subject:

Yes, but my question is How does one use the Ubuntu LiveCD to install gentoo? And how do I get that newer driver into Gentoo? And why is the latest version of the LiveCD last updated in April????
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d2_racing · Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:25 am Post subject:

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jcat · Veteran Joined: 26 May 2006 Posts: 1337

2008.0 should be out in mid March

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jcat

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d2_racing · Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject:

And just for my consience, use the SystemRescueCD because it's a Gentoo LiveCD with extra application and a kernel 2.6.23-gentoo.

NathanZachary · Moderator Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 2609

I used to recommend whichever distro had the latest kernel (basing off of DistroWatch.com), but now that I've personally used the SystemRescueCD, I wouldn't recommend any other one (until the new Gentoo 2008.0 release, that is).

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scawa · Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:09 am Post subject:

Ok... So, I looked at Knoppix and the latest version they had was Jan 2007.... so since the driver for my network card isn't supported by the Gentoo LiveCD of April 2007, I would suppose it isn't supported by the Jan 2007 Knoppix...

So, tell me a little about his System Rescue CD.... I already have Kubuntu installed on my box (the only installation I have on it.) Would I use the SystemRescueCD to boot the system, and then do a network install of Gentoo.

WHY IN THE HECK SHOULD I HAVE TO DO THIS.... WHY ISN'T THE GENTOO BUILD GROUP KEEPING THE KERNEL UP TO DATE (or nearly so) WITH THE DISTRIBUTION......

I'm sorry, but I haven't installed Gentoo in a year... and really haven't had to really deal with it except to do the security updates on my other Gentoo box. So, it's been a while since I've even had to go to the forums.... The concept of having to use some other system to get a start on a proper install of a MAJOR distribution of Linux is ridiculous. It doesn't inspire confidence for some newbie...

As you can see, I've been using Gentoo for a long while, but it just seems wrong to let this kind of thing wait for some milestone release of the LiveCD. While installing Gentoo has never been "simple", it has never been this obtuse to accomplish.
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scawa · Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:58 am Post subject:

d2_racing · Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject:

NathanZachary · Moderator Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 2609

I know that it is hard to imagine using another distribution to install Gentoo, but for the time being, it is much easier than any other alternative. As mentioned above, when 2008.0 comes out in March, it shouldn't be necessary anymore (at least for a while).

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d2_racing · Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:29 pm Post subject:

Yeah, when the 2008.0 LiveCD will come out, the Jmicron Hell will be a thing from the past and keep in mind that when you have a new hardware, just use the latest SystemRescueCD, because he will have the most up to date version of the kernel Gentoo.

scawa · Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject:

At least until more hardware comes out and the "yearly" upgrade of the LiveCD no longer supports it.

Again, for a distribution such as Gentoo to lag so far behind in their installation procedure is not a good thing.
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d2_racing · Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:40 pm Post subject:

I know for a fact that Arch Linux release a new LiveCD each time that a new kernel is snap Stable.

Maybe, Gentoo should do that if the liveCD fail too much in the future.

NathanZachary · Moderator Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 2609

We've really gotten away from the original purpose of the thread, which I believe has been solved. Maybe we can split the thread and merge it with one of the existing ones in Gentoo chat.
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desultory · Bodhisattva Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Posts: 9410

Split from topic "No networking during install".

SLBMEH · Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:31 pm Post subject:

d2_racing · Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:15 am Post subject:

For the record, SystemRescueCD has been built with Catalyst from Gentoo.