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Swishy Guru
Joined: 06 Jun 2002 Posts: 491 Location: NZ
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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 8:08 am Post subject: |
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Utoxin wrote: | Well, I finally got the time and the extra hard drive to do this, and XFS is now gone from my system. Running Reiser now, since I'm a speed fiend.
Nice to have a (hopefully) stable system again. |
how much of a speed increase does Rieser give over ext3 ...????? _________________ Theres no substitute for C.I. |
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Utoxin Guru
Joined: 19 Apr 2002 Posts: 413 Location: American Fork, UT
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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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Don't know. I've never run it, and I rarely bother with benchmarks. All I know is, everyone says it's faster. _________________ Gentoo:
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2. A small fast penguin on your computer.
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delta407 Bodhisattva
Joined: 23 Apr 2002 Posts: 2876 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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I don't have benchmarks either, but ReiserFS is faster than ext3. |
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mdpye Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 18 Apr 2002 Posts: 102 Location: Nottingham, England
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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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So are you guys telling me that when my geforce arrives (should be in a matter of minutes now, before 5pm ), and I merge the nvidia drivers it will be completely bloody useless with my preemptable kernel?
Oh shit. _________________ Cheers, MP |
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delta407 Bodhisattva
Joined: 23 Apr 2002 Posts: 2876 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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It should still work okay... |
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Utoxin Guru
Joined: 19 Apr 2002 Posts: 413 Location: American Fork, UT
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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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AutoBot wrote: | But if you have a cdburner, broadband, and a little time I would suggest using the knoppix live cd as you can't get much better than a rescue disk that can run kde or gnome
http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html |
Just booted with Knoppix. That is truly amazing. It found and initialized /all/ my hardware without a single glitch, including the sound and video cards.
I'm keeping it around to use as my recovery CD. _________________ Gentoo:
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ZagiFlyer Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 19 Apr 2002 Posts: 93 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 7:46 pm Post subject: Gentoo-sources |
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I guess I'm confused . . .
I am running the current Gentoo-sources, and it already has xfs (I know it does because I'm using it) and preemt (again, I'm using it). What advantage(s) would one be looking for by hand-rolling the patches into vanilla-sources rather than just using the Gentoo-sources? _________________ "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy"
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Utoxin Guru
Joined: 19 Apr 2002 Posts: 413 Location: American Fork, UT
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 1:14 am Post subject: |
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I was hoping to try and get them to work /nicely/ together. Unfortunately, that seems impossible at this time. XFS and Preempt are mutually exclusive, if you are concerned with stability. I'd recommend reiser as a substitute for XFS. _________________ Gentoo:
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AutoBot l33t
Joined: 22 Apr 2002 Posts: 968 Location: Usually Out
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 3:07 am Post subject: |
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Told you knoppix was nice , also I currently use ReiserFS as my filesytem and have no problems with preempt. _________________ This message self destructed a long time ago. |
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delta407 Bodhisattva
Joined: 23 Apr 2002 Posts: 2876 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 3:14 am Post subject: |
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Utoxin wrote: | I'd recommend reiser as a substitute for XFS. |
People are concerned with ReiserFS corruption -- XFS has corrupted on me one time after a week, ReiserFS has corrupted on me zero times after ten months (combined over three machines). I've found ReiserFS to be faster, too. I'm also using it with the preempt patch right now, with no issues.
Seriously, if you're doing a new Gentoo install, try out ReiserFS. |
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Swishy Guru
Joined: 06 Jun 2002 Posts: 491 Location: NZ
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 5:05 am Post subject: |
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Look like I may have to have a go with Reiser then ....... _________________ Theres no substitute for C.I. |
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AutoBot l33t
Joined: 22 Apr 2002 Posts: 968 Location: Usually Out
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 5:43 am Post subject: |
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delta407 wrote: | Utoxin wrote: | I'd recommend reiser as a substitute for XFS. |
People are concerned with ReiserFS corruption -- XFS has corrupted on me one time after a week, ReiserFS has corrupted on me zero times after ten months (combined over three machines). I've found ReiserFS to be faster, too. I'm also using it with the preempt patch right now, with no issues.
Seriously, if you're doing a new Gentoo install, try out ReiserFS. |
Do you not find ReiserFS slows once the disk is near full (1 Gig or less), seems I need to do some more testing to gather conclusive evidence on that one. _________________ This message self destructed a long time ago. |
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Utoxin Guru
Joined: 19 Apr 2002 Posts: 413 Location: American Fork, UT
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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AutoBot wrote: | delta407 wrote: | Utoxin wrote: | I'd recommend reiser as a substitute for XFS. |
People are concerned with ReiserFS corruption -- XFS has corrupted on me one time after a week, ReiserFS has corrupted on me zero times after ten months (combined over three machines). I've found ReiserFS to be faster, too. I'm also using it with the preempt patch right now, with no issues.
Seriously, if you're doing a new Gentoo install, try out ReiserFS. |
Do you not find ReiserFS slows once the disk is near full (1 Gig or less), seems I need to do some more testing to gather conclusive evidence on that one. |
That's possible. It uses a hash to index the files, and with large numbers of files, it starts getting hash collisions, which would slow things down a bit. _________________ Gentoo:
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mdpye Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 18 Apr 2002 Posts: 102 Location: Nottingham, England
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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delta407 wrote: | It should still work okay... |
And it does. Thanks.
PHEW! _________________ Cheers, MP |
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KiTaSuMbA Guru
Joined: 28 Jun 2002 Posts: 430 Location: Naples Italy
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 6:57 pm Post subject: Re: strange stuff... |
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AutoBot wrote: |
Do you not get all those "foo-application exited with a preempt count of"? |
As I said, I got the "official" gentoo XFS 2.4.18 sources (how did I miss the preempt option in there?). So, I was actually adding my 2 cents on the "it's not XFSes fault, they just don't stick together" kind of thing.
I am sorry I only saw your answer now... but don't you get a feeling the forums are a bit chaotic? Perhaps we need a threaded replies tree so we can check faster when someone responds specifically to us instead of the entire thread. Or at least, an additional "quoted by" search pattern. _________________ Need to flame people LIVE on IRC? Join #gentoo-otw on freenode! |
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AutoBot l33t
Joined: 22 Apr 2002 Posts: 968 Location: Usually Out
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: strange stuff... |
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KiTaSuMbA wrote: | AutoBot wrote: |
Do you not get all those "foo-application exited with a preempt count of"? |
As I said, I got the "official" gentoo XFS 2.4.18 sources (how did I miss the preempt option in there?). So, I was actually adding my 2 cents on the "it's not XFSes fault, they just don't stick together" kind of thing.
I am sorry I only saw your answer now... but don't you get a feeling the forums are a bit chaotic? Perhaps we need a threaded replies tree so we can check faster when someone responds specifically to us instead of the entire thread. Or at least, an additional "quoted by" search pattern. |
I looked at my question and have no idea what I was thinking at the time _________________ This message self destructed a long time ago. |
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mdpye Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 18 Apr 2002 Posts: 102 Location: Nottingham, England
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Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: strange stuff... |
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AutoBot wrote: |
I am sorry I only saw your answer now... but don't you get a feeling the forums are a bit chaotic? Perhaps we need a threaded replies tree so we can check faster when someone responds specifically to us instead of the entire thread. Or at least, an additional "quoted by" search pattern. |
I really don't like these unthreaded discussion boards, but finding a good threaded one is so difficult I ended up rolling my own with PHP/mySQL. Damn nice it is too, but it isn't complete enough to offer as an option here.
MP _________________ Cheers, MP |
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