Gnome2 wrapper. No flames this time please

Spider

okay,
Due to the trolls on the forum I've abandoned the Gnome 2 beautification Guide and FAQ thread, and will not follow that anymore.

I've got better things to do than to read long inflamatory posts about peoples opinions.

if there are more Gnome 2 questions, and discussion, please follow up here.

General note: dont forget to unmask after you have rsync'ed

FAQ. and guide: http://gentoo.org/~spider/
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mksoft · l33t Joined: 28 May 2002 Posts: 844

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wohlford · Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2002 12:17 am Post subject: Gnome Still Broken

For some reason, my Gnomes are broken. I had already made a rule for myself not to install any heavy betas on this particular system. I have VMware for that. Alas, I did, and both my Gnomes are quite broken. I'd love some help fixing them.

First, I unmaked the Gnome2 stuff and emerged. Logged out of KDE and tried to go into Gnome2. No success. Seg faults abound. Went back in to KDE. Emerged rsync again and unmerge all listed packages in gnome2 mask. Emeged gnome back and still Gnome 1.4 dosen't work. Still get a lot of segfaults. It goes pretty fast so its difficult to document. Something with the end of '-panel' crashes. Then several other thing go down. Finally it seems Nautilus comes up without and leave just Home and Trash on the desktop. I open either and it seems no window manager is running.

I'm really quite surprised I'm having so much difficulty with this Gnome2 install. Everything about Gentoo has been extremlly solid and beautifully brilliant. I'd like to go back down to 1.4 until Gentoo decides Gnome2 is default. Any help will be appreciated.

Jason

Spider · Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2002 12:24 am Post subject: Re: Gnome Still Broken

sa · Guru Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Posts: 450

Hello, im in the process of emerging gnome2, When It gets to gnome-system-monitor the ebuild dies, because scrollkeeper isnt installed yet(not very obvious). Is it possible to change the dependecies so scrollkeeper gets built first?

I manually installed scrollkeeper, now, to continue :-)

Spider · Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2002 12:32 am Post subject: Re: gnome-system-monitor

Spider · Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2002 12:36 am Post subject: Nautilus translucent selector:

maverick
http://www.golemroxx.nl/nautilusbug.png

this is a bug and should be filed in http://bugzilla.gnome.org I'm not able to help you with this bug.
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Cooldy · n00b Joined: 14 Jun 2002 Posts: 12

I just emerged Gnome-2_rc2 and it sets up Metacity as the default window manger. I don't like Metacity very well, so I would like to changes it to sawfish. How can I go upon doing this.
I already emerged the newest sawfish, if you wanted to know.
Thankyou for taking the time to read my post.

Spider

Sure, this is quite a simple task of opening "preferences" and "session manager"
after that you select metacity, kill it, launch sawfish, and then marks that as "respawn" in the session manager.

after this you have to apply your settings, and you're go with a new WM : )

if anyone has a simpler way to do this, or better instructions, tell me ;)

neuron · Advocate Joined: 28 May 2002 Posts: 2371

sa · Guru Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Posts: 450

I just finished emerging gnome2 with gcc3, its NICE! I have one question...
how is the best way to get the gnome-audio files for gnome2? or is there such a thing?

wohlford · Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2002 2:29 am Post subject: Re: Gnome Still Broken

Cooldy · n00b Joined: 14 Jun 2002 Posts: 12

Ah, much better no more metacity crap, back to good old sawfish. No if I could only make the little Gnome foot bigger. Do you knwo how to do this?
Thank you very much for helping get rid of metacity.

Ok, I figured that out to I just had to left click the icon instead of right clicking it, then I went to panel->Properties and I changed the panel size to Large.
It looks much better now, seeing that I am running @1600x1200.

Playing around with Gnome is a lot of fun, if I find any bugs, I'll send them to bugzilla.

billatq · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 09 Jun 2002 Posts: 96

After hearing all of the great things about Gnome and seeing the spectacular desktops, I was very interested in installing it even though I'm more of a blackbox (yeah, not even flux

) person. however, I've been unable to get it to install. It seems to die whenever it tries to compile the applets. Any advice? Things I should post?

Spider

Spider · Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2002 6:41 am Post subject: Gnome-audio

Spider · Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2002 6:52 am Post subject: Re: Gnome Still Broken

Spider · Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2002 6:54 am Post subject: bugreports in bugzilla

sibn · n00b Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 36

Spider, that's really unfortunate. I had something else to say, but I'm sure it'd incite the ire of many a KDE fan.

I, for one, was grateful for the link, and although there are always going to be people unhappy with some ideas, I think that on the whole it was a good thing to provide it. Don't think for a moment that your work on gnome (ebuilds and otherwise) is not appreciated.

Why shouldn't I let nautilus draw the desktop? I know that doing that will hurt performance a bit, but it looks very pretty that way...
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billatq · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 09 Jun 2002 Posts: 96

Alright, well.. still fails to build. I submitted the bug report. I may just do a fresh install later on to play with it some more.

chuzwuzza · n00b Joined: 24 Jun 2002 Posts: 24

I've just installed gnome2 after previously having gnome 1.4 installed and have run into a problem with nautilus.

It seems I have the bug listed here: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75635

Nautilus won't use the tree sidepanel view (which is basically the only reason I use graphical file managers. General viewing and manipulation of files I'll do in the console). It brings up the message saying the tree view failed to start but nautilus itself keeps working fine. According to the comments at the bug report, it is due to having an old version of nautilus installed at compile time or something. I did have all of gnome 1.4 installed (including nautilus) before I emerged gnome 2. Will it be enough to unmerge nautilus, and then emerge it again? Has anyone else had this problem?

---EDIT---
Hmm, it seems it's not just the tree sidepanel, it's all - the notes and history too. It's just because I only had the tree panel displayed before that I only got the tree error message
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jay · l33t Joined: 08 May 2002 Posts: 980

I did a complete gnome2 update, the last betas were about 10 days old. Everything compiled fine after I removed gnome-core and re-emerged gnome-terminal and gnome-session.

However there are some minor quirks that I haven't figured out.

1. Nautilus is not displaying all icons. Have a look at
this. Is there a workaround or are the icons not created yet?

2. In the GDM configurator I can change the themes for login but these don't take effect. I'm still getting the sunflower no matter what I choose. After changing the theme for the x-th time GDM crashed. This happened befor but I cannot reproduce this exactly and I don't get any serious backtrace, so I wait before filing this as a bug.

3. I cannot change the themes in Desktop-Preferences. I have Crux, Metal, Thinice but the themes won't change. Diid I forget to emerge/compile anything?

4. gedit isn't using any ISO-8559-15 compliant fonts. I am not able to use the uro-Symbol for example. But it seems to be aware of the locale settings, because it appears in the language of the locale setting. The translation however seems to be incomplete - about 30% of all menu entries are still ing english.

5. If you change the default application for certain file types and use non - default-apps yo have to log off and re-logon before the changes take effect!

6. If you use xine for *.mov and *.qt file extensions and add the -p flag gnome2 is crashing and returns to the gdm logon screen.
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Cooldy · n00b Joined: 14 Jun 2002 Posts: 12

To change the theme for Metacity to somthing besides crux, you need to emerge metacity-setup
and then you should be able to change the theme to something besides crux.

To get the tree sidepanel in Nautilus
go to Edit->Preferences->Sidebar Panels and check the box that says "Display Tree tab in sidebar"
Although you probabbly already know that.
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