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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:15 pm    Post subject: [Risolto] Come controllo i pacchetti inutili? Reply with quote

Ciao a tutti. Ho una domanda da portvi, spero di essere nella sezione adatta.
Su mio sistema ho installato KDE come Desktop Environment.
Purtroppo mi accorgo spesso che installati nel mio sistema ci sono un casino di pacchetti di gnome.
Ecco per esempio l'output di eix -I --only-names gnome
Code:
app-text/gnome-doc-utils
dev-cpp/gnome-vfsmm
dev-cpp/libgnomecanvasmm
dev-cpp/libgnomemm
dev-cpp/libgnomeuimm
gnome-base/control-center
gnome-base/eel
gnome-base/gail
gnome-base/gconf
gnome-base/gnome-common
gnome-base/gnome-desktop
gnome-base/gnome-keyring
gnome-base/gnome-menus
gnome-base/gnome-mime-data
gnome-base/gnome-mount
gnome-base/gnome-panel
gnome-base/gnome-vfs
gnome-base/libbonobo
gnome-base/libbonoboui
gnome-base/libglade
gnome-base/libgnome
gnome-base/libgnomecanvas
gnome-base/libgnomekbd
gnome-base/libgnomeprint
gnome-base/libgnomeprintui
gnome-base/libgnomeui
gnome-base/librsvg
gnome-base/nautilus
gnome-base/orbit
gnome-extra/evolution-data-server
gnome-extra/libgsf
net-print/libgnomecups
x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme


L'unico programma gnome based che ho è GIMP. :roll: .
Sapreste indicarmi la strada adatta per rimuovere i pacchetti inutili?
Ci sono dei tool che mostrano l'albero delle dipendenze installate?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probabilmente avrai la USE "gnome" e/o "gtk" abilitata globalmente.

Il mio consiglio è

  1. disabilitarle globalmente, tramite /etc/make.conf
  2. ricompilare i pacchetti influenzati da tale cambiamento (tramite l'opzione --newuse di emerge)
  3. rimuovere i pacchetti inutili tramite
    Code:

    emerge --depclean

.
Per curiosità potresti innanzitutto postare l'output dei seguenti comandi:
Code:

equery hasuse gnome
equery hasuse gtk

(equery è fornito da gentoolkit).
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scen wrote:
Probabilmente avrai la USE "gnome" e/o "gtk" abilitata globalmente.


No, non ci sono in quel file!!!
Ho visto però che in ufed entrambe quelle flag erano abilitate:
ecco che succede al lancio di emerge -NDav world:
Code:
Total: 19 packages (19 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 279,134 kB
8O

Scen wrote:

Per curiosità potresti innanzitutto postare l'output dei seguenti comandi:
Code:

equery hasuse gnome


Ecco il risultato:
Code:

[I--] [  ] media-gfx/inkscape-0.45.1 (0)
[I--] [ ~] media-gfx/gimp-2.4.0_rc1 (2)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/librsvg-2.16.1-r2 (2)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/gnome-mount-0.6 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-base/nautilus-2.18.1-r1 (0)
[I--] [  ] gnome-extra/libgsf-1.14.3 (0)
[I--] [ ~] x11-wm/beryl-0.2.1 (0)
[I--] [  ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.4-r2 (1)
[I--] [ ~] app-office/openoffice-bin-2.2.1 (0)
[I--] [  ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.1-r1 (0)
[I--] [  ] app-dicts/stardict-2.4.6-r1


Scen wrote:

Code:

equery hasuse gtk


Ecco il secondo:
Code:
[I--] [ ~] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-100.14.11 (0)
[I--] [  ] app-text/ghostscript-gpl-8.54 (0)
[I--] [  ] app-text/poppler-bindings-0.5.4 (0)
[I--] [  ] media-sound/lame-3.97 (0)
[I--] [  ] media-libs/libquicktime-0.9.10 (0)
[I--] [  ] media-libs/smpeg-0.4.4-r8 (0)
[I--] [  ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.4-r2 (1)
[I--] [ -] sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2 (4.1)
[I--] [ ~] sys-devel/gcc-4.2.0 (4.2)
[I--] [  ] media-video/mplayer-1.0.20070622-r1 (0)
[I--] [  ] media-video/transcode-1.0.3 (0)


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

table wrote:
Scen wrote:
Probabilmente avrai la USE "gnome" e/o "gtk" abilitata globalmente.


No, non ci sono in quel file!!!
Ho visto però che in ufed entrambe quelle flag erano abilitate:

Potresti postare l'output di
Code:

emerge --info
?
table wrote:

ecco che succede al lancio di emerge -NDav world:
Code:
Total: 19 packages (19 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 279,134 kB
8O

Ehm... potresti postare l'output completo? Altrimenti non si capisce quali sono i pacchetti coinvolti :roll:

Comunque ho l'impressione che tu abbia installato qualche pacchetto che tra le sue dipendenze opzionali ha parte di GNOME, e te lo sei tirato dentro innavertitamente :?

Controlla tra quelli che hanno "gnome" tra le USE disponibili se ce l'hanno abilitata (tramite emerge -pv nomepacchetto).
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Installa app-portage/udept (un pacchetto fondamentale) e con il comando
Code:
dep -L nomepacchetto
ti dice da chi dipende e se eventualmente la sua dipendenza è legata a qualche use flag.
Comunque ci sono un sacco di programmi che usano librerie di gnome. Io ho un sistema senza gnome ma ho diversi pacchetti di gnome installati come dipendenze di programmi che uso comunemente.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scen wrote:

Potresti postare l'output di
Code:

emerge --info
?


Ecco qui:
Code:
Portage 2.1.2.11 (default-linux/x86/2007.0/desktop, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.5-r4, 2.6.22-gentoo-r2 i686)
=================================================================
System uname: 2.6.22-gentoo-r2 i686 Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2300 @ 1.66GHz
Gentoo Base System release 1.12.9
Timestamp of tree: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:30:01 +0000
dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.33-r1
dev-lang/python:     2.4.4-r4
dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6
sys-apps/sandbox:    1.2.17
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.61
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10
sys-devel/binutils:  2.17
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.16
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.23b
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.21
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=i686 -msse3 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/gconf /etc/php/apache2-php5/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php5/ext-active/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/splash /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/web2c"
CXXFLAGS="-march=i686 -msse3 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://distfiles.gentoo.org http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo"
LINGUAS="it"
MAKEOPTS="-j3"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages --filter=H_**/files/digest-*"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/root/catalyst/overlays/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="X a52 aac acl acpi aiglx alsa amarok apache2 arts avi bash-completion berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2 cairo cdr cdrom cli cracklib crypt cups dbus divx dri dts dvd dvdr dvdread dvdreal eds emboss encode esd evo fam firefox fortran gdbm gif gpm gstreamer hal iconv innodb ipv6 ipw3945 isdnlog jpeg kde kerberos ldap mad midi mikmod mp3 mpeg mpeg2 mudflap mysql ncurses nls nptl nptlonly ogg opengl openmp oss pam pcre pdf pdflib perl php png pppd python qt3 qt3support qt4 quicktime rar readline realmedia reflection samba sdl session smb spell spl ssl svg tcpd tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode vorbis wav win32codecs wmp x86 xanim xml xml2 xorg xv zlib" ALSA_CARDS="hda-intel" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" LINGUAS="it" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia"
Unset:  CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS



Scen wrote:

table wrote:

ecco che succede al lancio di emerge -NDav world:
Code:
Total: 19 packages (19 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 279,134 kB
8O

Ehm... potresti postare l'output completo? Altrimenti non si capisce quali sono i pacchetti coinvolti :roll:


Questo è l'output:
Code:

[ebuild   R   ] gnome-base/librsvg-2.16.1-r2  USE="zlib -debug -doc -gnome*" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] sys-devel/gcc-4.2.0  USE="fortran mudflap nls openmp (-altivec) -bootstrap -build -doc -gcj -gtk* (-hardened) -ip28 -ip32r10k (-multilib) -multislot (-n32) (-n64) -nocxx -objc -objc++ -objc-gc -test -vanilla" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2  USE="fortran mudflap nls (-altivec) -bootstrap -build -d -doc -gcj -gtk* (-hardened) -ip28 -ip32r10k (-multilib) -multislot (-n32) (-n64) -nocxx -objc -objc++ -objc-gc -test -vanilla" 38,840 kB
[ebuild   R   ] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-100.14.11  USE="-gtk* (-multilib)" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] app-dicts/stardict-2.4.6-r1  USE="-debug -gnome*" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] app-office/openoffice-bin-2.2.1  USE="kde -gnome* -java" LINGUAS="it -af -as_IN -be_BY -bg -br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da -de -dz -el -en -en_GB -en_ZA -eo -es -et -fa -fi -fr -ga -gl -gu_IN -he -hi_IN -hr -hu -ja -km -ko -ku -lt -mk -ml_IN -mr_IN -nb -ne -nl -nn -nr -ns -or_IN -pa_IN -pl -pt -ru -rw -sh_YU -sk -sl -sr_CS -ss -st -sv -sw_TZ -ta_IN -te_IN -tg -th -ti_ER -tn -tr -ts -uk -ur_IN -ve -vi -xh -zh_CN -zh_TW -zu" 142,508 kB
[ebuild   R   ] x11-wm/beryl-0.2.1  USE="kde -emerald -gnome*" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] app-text/ghostscript-gpl-8.54  USE="X cups -cjk -djvu -gtk* -jpeg2k" 20,585 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-gfx/inkscape-0.45.1  USE="spell -debug -dia -doc -gnome* -inkjar -lcms -mmx -postscript -wmf" 12,934 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] virtual/jdk-1.6.0  0 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-libs/smpeg-0.4.4-r9 [0.4.4-r8] USE="X opengl -debug -mmx (-gtk%*)" 312 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-gfx/gimp-2.4.0_rc1  USE="alsa dbus jpeg pdf png python svg tiff -aalib (-altivec) -curl -debug -doc -gnome* -gtkhtml -lcms -mmx -mng -smp -sse -wmf" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.4-r2  USE="X a52 aac alsa arts dts dvd esd ipv6 mad nls opengl oss samba sdl truetype vorbis win32codecs xv -aalib (-altivec) -debug -directfb -dxr3 -fbcon -flac -gnome* -gtk* -imagemagick -libcaca -mmap -mng -modplug -musepack -pulseaudio -speex -theora -v4l -vcd -vidix -wavpack -xcb -xinerama -xvmc" 6,856 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-video/mplayer-1.0.20070622-r1  USE="X a52 aac alsa arts dts dvd encode esd gif iconv ipv6 jpeg mad mp3 opengl oss png quicktime rar samba sdl truetype unicode vorbis win32codecs xanim xv -3dnow -3dnowext -aalib (-altivec) -amrnb -amrwb -bidi -bindist -bl -cddb -cdparanoia -cpudetection -custom-cflags -debug -dga -directfb -doc -dv -dvb -dvdnav -enca -fbcon -ftp -ggi -gtk* -ivtv -jack -joystick -libcaca -lirc -live -livecd -lzo -md5sum -mmx -mmxext -mp2 -musepack -nas -openal -pnm -radio -real -rtc -speex -srt -sse -sse2 -ssse3 -svga -tga -theora -tivo -v4l -v4l2 -vidix -x264 -xinerama -xvid -xvmc -zoran" VIDEO_CARDS="-mga -s3virge -tdfx -vesa" 7,445 kB
[ebuild   R   ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.1-r1  USE="encode -debug -gnome* -pccts" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-video/transcode-1.0.3  USE="X a52 dvdread iconv jpeg mp3 mpeg ogg quicktime sdl truetype vorbis xml -3dnow (-altivec) -dv -extrafilters -fame -gtk* -imagemagick -lzo -mjpeg -mmx -network -sse -sse2 -theora -v4l2 -xvid" 1,946 kB



Scen wrote:
Comunque ho l'impressione che tu abbia installato qualche pacchetto che tra le sue dipendenze opzionali ha parte di GNOME, e te lo sei tirato dentro innavertitamente :?

Controlla tra quelli che hanno "gnome" tra le USE disponibili se ce l'hanno abilitata (tramite emerge -pv nomepacchetto).


Adesso che ho tolto le 2 flag con ufed nessun pacchetto avrà abilitato quelle flag
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bene, vedo che ci sono diversi pacchetti con -gnome* trale USE: per fare le cose fatte bene ricompila tutto world con l'opzione --newuse, poi lancia
Code:

emerge --depclean -pv

in teoria dovrebbe proporti una bella sfilza di pacchetti, molto probabilmente saranno tutti quelli relativi a gnome che all'inizio hai citato come "inutili". Se sei sicuro, togli il -pv e rilancia il comando.

Poi per sicurezza lancia
Code:

revdep-rebuild

e dovresti essere apposto.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

e nuovamente un
Code:
emerge -uDn world
, ogni tanto
Code:
revdep-rebuild
fa casini
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spostato da Forum di discussione italiano a Forum italiano (Italian).
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perfetto, ora moltissimi pacchetti se ne sono andati :P .
Grazie x le vostre dritte :D
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ciao,

se hai risolto metti il flag risolto nel titolo del tuo 3d
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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se hai risolto metti il flag risolto nel titolo del tuo 3d


Ops che sbadato, fatto :D
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