gentooers only forums

panserg · Apprentice Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Posts: 188

Well, actually I am not proposing forums available only for l33t. But as recently I see more and more performance problem on the gentoo forums site, I am thinking - how many posters are not actually gentoo readers? Of course some of forums are useless for non-gentooers: Installation, Portage. But many are used by non gentooers as well.

So, I've got a very crazy idea: what if to close some of forums for only gentoo users. Let's say, you could (somehow) update "gentooer" (why not have such) field in your profile only from Gentoo and those forums will be available only for such gentooers. Of course, Installation and Portage must available for everybody (Programming must be splitted and available only for gentoers). Of course there will be still "intruders" but that's ok. The performance will be improved.

Of course, if Gentoo will get sponsors for better servers/channels then all forums could be opened again.

What do you think? Bad idea?

jimlynch11 · Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 12:09 am Post subject:

what a ridiculous concept. the moment we do this the moment gentoo loses alot of its appeal as a welcoming and helpful and positive community.

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GXTi · Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 10:29 am Post subject: Re: gentooers only forums

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steveb · Advocate Joined: 18 Sep 2002 Posts: 4564

the way it is now is absolutly okay!

cheers

SteveB

Death Valley Pete · Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 11:54 pm Post subject:

Okay, I'm a complete newbie ('newbie', not n00b - I can't stand 1337 notation), and Gentoo is my first serious experiment with Linux (tried RedHat, hated the package management, went to Gentoo a week later). I won't kid you, I came here for the hype: I too could have a totally optimized, non-bloated, and dare I say 'elite' :wink:

system. I knew it was supposed to be for experts, but all the Gentoo backers on slashdot said that it wasn't hard to install if you follow the docs. So I gave it a whirl (on dialup no less). It was easy to get a base setup, but harder to get things to where I wanted them to be. There's absolutely no way I would have stuck with it if it hadn't been for these forums. Gentoo's user community is the best, most positive I have encountered for anything, anywhere. If you close off parts of the forums to anyone, then you'll become just another Debian.

Which, if you think about it, would make a nifty catchphrase:

ebrostig · Posted: Sat May 31, 2003 12:29 am Post subject:

I see it is Friday (lol, it was actually posted on thursday, oh well :roll:

), nuff said!

Let's move on, everyone is welcome here and that's how it should be!

Erik
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puggy · Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 2:55 pm Post subject:

I can't believe anyone would suggest this...

Puggy
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panserg · Apprentice Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Posts: 188

klasikahl · Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 10:31 pm Post subject:

rtfm newbies.

i dont want to waste my time with newbies, and these forums are being hit awfully hard (thus causing the mysql errors and downtime you've all seen). 75% of the install questions are answered clearly in the docs. rtfm

make the forums RO. you have to apply for posting abilities. MUWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH pwnt.
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frippz · Guru Joined: 22 Aug 2002 Posts: 460 Location: Sweden

There's already a distro for people with that kind of an attitude; Debian.
If a n00b asks such a question you just have to give him a friendly direction where he/she cand find the answer without tell him to STFU and RTFM.

No need to be elitist och rude IMHO.

klasikahl · Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2003 12:51 pm Post subject:

there are two kinds of newbies...

there are those who read the docs, sleep with the docs, and become the docs beofre they ask their question; and then there are those who dont even bother reading the docs before they ask...hell, there are even those who ask questions about the install and when you say rtfm, they ask where the docs are.

i have no problems with the first type of newbie, but the second and especially the third i cannot stand.

also, debian is newbish compared to gentoo.

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puggy · Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2003 3:24 pm Post subject:

I think some people have got a bit carried away with persecuting newbies here. It's nobody's fault their a newbie and I for one welcome any newbie to the linux world. Just because a newbie posts a question that's been asked before doesn't mean they are not reading the install docs or whatever. Sometimes its just a little confusing and nice to have som clarriffication. Obviously some posts are a bit annoying as they ask a questino which is clearly documented in the install guide, but how long does it take to point them to that fact... no harm done.

One of the main reasons newbies (and others) come to gentoo is the great forum and community surrounding it. Throwing this away seems totally retarded.

One of the main points here seem to be some people trying to ban newbies to reduce the load on the forum. That is stupid. The stupid questions some refer to, make negligible difference to the forums I expect as they are nearly always answered in a single post.
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