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| Amfabeta wrote: | Thanks for help. Everything seems to work now. I was missing some hardware support in kernel.  This is the best install guide that I've tried so far. Good job! |
Thankyou  I hope the install was fun. Good luck with your new install.
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V401:
- New more stable kernel with latest rsdl and rsdl as default cpu sched.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:52 am Post subject: ARCH (-march AMD64) |
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For the amd64 make.conf, why is the ARCH keyword set to i686? Shouldn't it be
something AMD related, like athlon64 or k8 or something?
EDIT ( duh! I shouldda read 7.3!!!  )
EDIT ( PS- the link to the make.conf files is missing from the guide  )
EDIT ( Why does make.conf use -Os and not -O2 or -O3 ?
Thanks, Conrad, for your terrific guide, by the way!!!
Keep 'em coming : )
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:38 am Post subject: Re: ARCH (-march AMD64) |
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EDIT ( PS- the link to the make.conf files is missing from the guide ) |
I don't know Added*
| Quote: | | EDIT ( Why does make.conf use -Os and not -O2 or -O3 ? |
If you take a look at the rest of the CFLAGS, -Os is the most basic optimizations, for smaller binary size. Some of the rest of those CFLAGS though are taken from -O2 and -O3. Most of them are from -O2, some from -O3, and some in neither. Together I find them to be faster than -Os, -O2, or -O3,
| Quote: | Thanks, Conrad, for your terrific guide, by the way!!!
Keep 'em coming : ) |
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Thanks for the speedy response, Cheater !
I noticed "-O2" popping up while I'm watching the screen when some of the software is compiling,
even though "-Os" is specified in my make.conf. Somehow, the "-Os" seems
to getting "over-ridden" at certain times.
Also, I wonder if our speed optimizations are even being put into effect, since we have the size optimization
"-Os" set as our default. 
Last, I'm doing the amd64 thing, and I am able to use ext4. The livecd (small-gentoo v6) has the ext4dev.ko
module, which I loaded. I hope that's ok to do...
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| na5m wrote: | Thanks for the speedy response, Cheater !
I noticed "-O2" popping up while I'm watching the screen when some of the software is compiling,
even though "-Os" is specified in my make.conf. Somehow, the "-Os" seems
to getting "over-ridden" at certain times.
Also, I wonder if our speed optimizations are even being put into effect, since we have the size optimization
"-Os" set as our default.
Last, I'm doing the amd64 thing, and I am able to use ext4. The livecd (small-gentoo v6) has the ext4dev.ko
module, which I loaded. I hope that's ok to do...
Happy days!!!
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some software (ebuilds) override the make.conf and use its own basic CFLAGS.
All -Os is is a bunch of flags made into one short flag, all the flags are together.
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 Awesome.
But some problems I ran into:
You upstaged Reiser4. Well, that's not so bad, but ext4 kept spewing errors at me on fsck in the new system, if the new system managed to mount / at all. I'm pretty sure I built the kernel right. Is there any reason to use ext4 over resier4?
The "-combine" cflag screws with some ebuilds (ffmpeg complained that "cc1 was given too many filenames" or something like that. Maybe a friendly note to disable it when an ebuild complains?
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# emerge gentoo-sources This could be replaced with USE="symlink" emerge gentoo-sources
# cd /usr/src/linux <--- Typo. But I doubt it'd cause problems for anybody here .
# rm linux
# ln -s linux-2.6.20-gentoo* linux
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Other than that, the conrad-install went great and all materials within the guide seem well-thought-out. Great job. |
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| Master Chef wrote: | Awesome.
But some problems I ran into:
You upstaged Reiser4. Well, that's not so bad, but ext4 kept spewing errors at me on fsck in the new system, if the new system managed to mount / at all. I'm pretty sure I built the kernel right. Is there any reason to use ext4 over resier4?
The "-combine" cflag screws with some ebuilds (ffmpeg complained that "cc1 was given too many filenames" or something like that. Maybe a friendly note to disable it when an ebuild complains?
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# emerge gentoo-sources This could be replaced with USE="symlink" emerge gentoo-sources
# cd /usr/src/linux <--- Typo. But I doubt it'd cause problems for anybody here .
# rm linux
# ln -s linux-2.6.20-gentoo* linux
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Other than that, the conrad-install went great and all materials within the guide seem well-thought-out. Great job. |
Did you remember to add extents to you fstab before booting?
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| vipernicus wrote: | | Did you remember to add extents to you fstab before booting? |
I don't think I did. I used type ext4dev in fstab and rebooted, but the kernel complained about not being able to sync ;|. After though, once I tried to login with the liveCD, I could chroot and everything, but couldn't write to any of the filesystem.
 It's a bit late now though, already have my filesystem up and running and KDE compiled. |
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| Master Chef wrote: | | vipernicus wrote: | | Did you remember to add extents to you fstab before booting? |
I don't think I did. I used type ext4dev in fstab and rebooted, but the kernel complained about not being able to sync ;|. After though, once I tried to login with the liveCD, I could chroot and everything, but couldn't write to any of the filesystem.
It's a bit late now though, already have my filesystem up and running and KDE compiled. |
You can still do it if you have some spare space somewhere other than that partition - simply follow the XFS migration howto and substitute values where appropriate. Then you wouldn't be forced to recompile KDE/dependencies.
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| Master Chef wrote: | | vipernicus wrote: | | Did you remember to add extents to you fstab before booting? |
I don't think I did. I used type ext4dev in fstab and rebooted, but the kernel complained about not being able to sync ;|. After though, once I tried to login with the liveCD, I could chroot and everything, but couldn't write to any of the filesystem.
It's a bit late now though, already have my filesystem up and running and KDE compiled. |
did you remember to link e2fsck to fsck.ext4dev?
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| cheater1034 wrote: | | did you remember to link e2fsck to fsck.ext4dev? |
Definitely remembered that part. |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:54 pm Post subject: SOLVED: borkage |
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in "Chapter 8.9 - Rebuilding the World" failed after about an hour. I believe it was caused by the addition of -finvisibility-inlines-hidden
or by the omission of -fPIC. ANY help/info from you guys would be greatly appreciated.
EDIT: I added -fpic to COREFLAGS and was able to
successfully complete emerge -e world.
Thanks a million.
Chris
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PS- i'm going the amd64 route. Using a pre-installed Sabayon-64 3.3b to install this Conrad.
Brand new Compaq V5306US laptop. Following the guide to a tee, except using ext4dev,
as my Sabayon supports this.
Here are the last few lines before the bork:
/bin/sh ./libtool --mode=link x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -Os -march=athlon64 -msse3 -frename-registers -fweb -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -funit-at-a-time -freorder-blocks -fno-ident -freorder-blocks-and-partition -fmerge-all-constants -combine -fvisibility-inlines-hidden -Wl,--hash-style=gnu -o libgmpxx.la -rpath /usr/lib64 -version-info 4:1:1 dummy.lo cxx/isfuns.lo cxx/ismpf.lo cxx/ismpq.lo cxx/ismpz.lo cxx/ismpznw.lo cxx/osdoprnti.lo cxx/osfuns.lo cxx/osmpf.lo cxx/osmpq.lo cxx/osmpz.lo libgmp.la
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -shared -nostdlib /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../lib64/crti.o /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/crtbeginS.o .libs/dummy.o cxx/.libs/isfuns.o cxx/.libs/ismpf.o cxx/.libs/ismpq.o cxx/.libs/ismpz.o cxx/.libs/ismpznw.o cxx/.libs/osdoprnti.o cxx/.libs/osfuns.o cxx/.libs/osmpf.o cxx/.libs/osmpq.o cxx/.libs/osmpz.o -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/gmp-4.2.1-r1/work/gmp-4.2.1/.libs ./.libs/libgmp.so -L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2 -L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../lib64 -L/lib/../lib64 -L/usr/lib/../lib64 -L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib -L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../.. -lstdc++ -lm -lc -lgcc_s /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/crtendS.o /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../lib64/crtn.o -march=athlon64 -msse3 -Wl,--hash-style=gnu -Wl,-soname -Wl,libgmpxx.so.3 -o .libs/libgmpxx.so.3.1.1
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cxx/.libs/isfuns.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
cxx/.libs/isfuns.o: could not read symbols: Bad value
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [libgmpxx.la] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/gmp-4.2.1-r1/work/gmp-4.2.1'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/gmp-4.2.1-r1/work/gmp-4.2.1'
make: *** [all] Error 2
!!! ERROR: dev-libs/gmp-4.2.1-r1 failed.
Call stack:
ebuild.sh, line 1614: Called dyn_compile
ebuild.sh, line 971: Called qa_call 'src_compile'
ebuild.sh, line 44: Called src_compile
gmp-4.2.1-r1.ebuild, line 66: Called die
!!! emake failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant.
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What CPU Scheduler should be used? Ingosched, Staircase, or RSDL?
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Got all the way up to the kernel and it poo-ed all over me.  gcc-config error: could not run/locate "gcc"
dep -s shows it in the system (gcc-4.1.2) and emerge -av gcc wants to rebuild it, but I can't compile the kernel since it complains about missing gcc. Recompiling it for the fun of it now.
Edit: Now gcc is bombing out, stopped at checking whether C compiler works, showed the flags from make.conf and it can't make executables.
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| d_adams wrote: | Got all the way up to the kernel and it poo-ed all over me. gcc-config error: could not run/locate "gcc"
dep -s shows it in the system (gcc-4.1.2) and emerge -av gcc wants to rebuild it, but I can't compile the kernel since it complains about missing gcc. Recompiling it for the fun of it now.
Edit: Now gcc is bombing out, stopped at checking whether C compiler works, showed the flags from make.conf and it can't make executables. |
Paste your make.conf, I tested conrads flags before a weekly toolchain update (glibc) and i had a lot of things bomb out so i reverted back to this
| Code: | CFLAGS="-march=athlon64 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
CFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -fno-ident -frename-registers -fweb -fgcse-after-reload -msse3"
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Cheater,
Some modest typo corrections, editing as I go, as I work my way through the install.
9.1 (Emerging No_Sources)
After answering the "Assume -R?" question with a Y, I got an undocumented question:
I answered Y again, got an error message ("can't find file to patch....", and, eventually, | Code: | | Skip this patch? [y] |
which I answered Y. There followed a bunch of successful "patching" messages.
From this, I surmise that I should've answered "Apply anyway?" as N, right? Were you expecting that extra prompt?
11.1 - Emerging Splashutils
2nd line, should beor perhaps you might just want to replace lines 1 - 5 with | Code: | # USE="symlink" emerge gentoo-sources
# cd /usr/src/linux |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:40 am Post subject: Re: CPU Scheduler |
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| na5m wrote: | What CPU Scheduler should be used? Ingosched, Staircase, or RSDL?
Thanks! |
RSDL for me, but its experimental, I never had a problem but, if you want 100% stability staircase is the best bet; its being replaced by RSDL now known as SD. So its a toss up. |
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Hi, I tried to start the installation with the Small Gentoo x86 r9 LiveCD but I can't configure my wireless USB pen with Ndiswrapper.
I do these commands:
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ndiswrapper -i rt73.inf
ndiswrapper -l:
rt73:
Driver installed,
Hardware (xxxx:xxxx) present.
modprobe ndiswrapper
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But when I do:
I can't see the wlan0 interface, only eq(?) eth2 eth3 lo and some others...
And also, why the CD Drive is named "/dev/sr0" instead of "/dev/hdb" ?
How can I resolve this problem? Or, where can I find another LiveCD (with Ndiswrapper) that gives me the possiblity of use the Ext4 filesystem?
Thanks.
P.S.: I'm sorry for any possible English mistakes, I'm Italian.
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| alnews wrote: | Hi, I tried to start the installation with the Small Gentoo x86 r9 LiveCD but I can't configure my wireless USB pen with Ndiswrapper.
I do these commands:
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ndiswrapper -i rt73.inf
ndiswrapper -l:
rt73:
Driver installed,
Hardware (xxxx:xxxx) present.
modprobe ndiswrapper
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But when I do:
I can't see the wlan0 interface, only eq(?) eth2 eth3 lo and some others...
And also, why the CD Drive is named "/dev/sr0" instead of "/dev/hdb" ?
How can I resolve this problem? Or, where can I find another LiveCD (with Ndiswrapper) that gives me the possiblity of use the Ext4 filesystem?
Thanks.
P.S.: I'm sorry for any possible English mistakes, I'm Italian. |
it's called /dev/sr0 because it's using newer drivers (called libata -> mainly S-ATA drivers), so your cd drive is handled by it
your wlan adaptor doesn't necessarily needs to be named wlan0, if you get interfaces under
iwconfig:
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| Quote: | iwconfig
eth0 no wireless extensions.
lo no wireless extensions.
eql no wireless extensions.
sit0 no wireless extensions.
eth1 unassociated ESSID:off/any
Mode:Managed Channel=0 Access Point: Not-Associated
Bit Rate:0 kb/s Tx-Power=20 dBm Sensitivity=8/0
Retry limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off
Encryption key:off
Power Management:off
Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0
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just set up that device and you'll be fine
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| kernelOfTruth wrote: | | it's called /dev/sr0 because it's using newer drivers (called libata -> mainly S-ATA drivers), so your cd drive is handled by it |
I think his drive is probably P-ATA and not S-ATA. I didn't want anyone to get confused.
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| kernelOfTruth wrote: | | alnews wrote: | Hi, I tried to start the installation with the Small Gentoo x86 r9 LiveCD but I can't configure my wireless USB pen with Ndiswrapper.
I do these commands:
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ndiswrapper -i rt73.inf
ndiswrapper -l:
rt73:
Driver installed,
Hardware (xxxx:xxxx) present.
modprobe ndiswrapper
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But when I do:
I can't see the wlan0 interface, only eq(?) eth2 eth3 lo and some others...
And also, why the CD Drive is named "/dev/sr0" instead of "/dev/hdb" ?
How can I resolve this problem? Or, where can I find another LiveCD (with Ndiswrapper) that gives me the possiblity of use the Ext4 filesystem?
Thanks.
P.S.: I'm sorry for any possible English mistakes, I'm Italian. |
it's called /dev/sr0 because it's using newer drivers (called libata -> mainly S-ATA drivers), so your cd drive is handled by it
your wlan adaptor doesn't necessarily needs to be named wlan0, if you get interfaces under
iwconfig:
e.g.
| Quote: | iwconfig
eth0 no wireless extensions.
lo no wireless extensions.
eql no wireless extensions.
sit0 no wireless extensions.
eth1 unassociated ESSID:off/any
Mode:Managed Channel=0 Access Point: Not-Associated
Bit Rate:0 kb/s Tx-Power=20 dBm Sensitivity=8/0
Retry limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off
Encryption key:off
Power Management:off
Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0
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just set up that device and you'll be fine |
Mmm, I know, but when i do iwconfig, all interfaces say :"no wireless exstensions."
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| vipernicus wrote: | | kernelOfTruth wrote: | | it's called /dev/sr0 because it's using newer drivers (called libata -> mainly S-ATA drivers), so your cd drive is handled by it |
I think his drive is probably P-ATA and not S-ATA. I didn't want anyone to get confused. |
yeah, you're right, *goes to the corner of the room to be ashamed*
| Quote: | | Mmm, I know, but when i do iwconfig, all interfaces say :"no wireless exstensions." |
did you try another version of that driver? perhaps that helps ...
what does "dmesg" say, was ndiswrapper loaded properly ?
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| kernelOfTruth wrote: |
did you try another version of that driver? perhaps that helps ...
what does "dmesg" say, was ndiswrapper loaded properly ? |
The driver version is the same when I use it, and it always worked...
dmesg:
| Code: | | ndiswrapper version 1.38 loaded (preempt=yes,smp=yes) |
Thanks for your help.
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I have temporary connected my PC via ethernet, so I "solved" the problem.
Thanks all for your time&help.
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