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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pilla wrote:
Is anybody else annoyed by the current measures?

Nope - Neddy stated it as best as I could think ->
NeddySeagoon wrote:

Gentoo, IRC and the forums are not democracies

Nuff said, end of story.

You guys do a wonderful job, the guidelines are clear, and if people cannot criticize/gripe within the confines of the guidelines, adios.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vibrokatana wrote:
It still raises the problem that the general policy is rather wacko, 2 weeks is definately too long.


And it increases to 4 weeks when people try to evade the ban.

edit: it gets permanent when it's your second ban and you try to evade it.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pilla wrote:
Is anybody else annoyed by the current measures?
Not me for one, and here's why:
jpl888 wrote:
The basic fact of the matter is intelligent people should be able to get their point(s) across without resorting to derogatory names. ... it is not unreasonable to expect this.
...and...
NeddySeagoon wrote:
predatorfreak,
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Harsh words make a point, I was attempting to make a point in a direct and blunt manner.
Your point was lost because it was obscured by the harsh words.

Which is dead right, on both sides--harsh words do make a point, and are within the guidelines when directed to actions or situations, not persons. For example, telling a moderator that their actions were (choose one:) overzealous, severe, draconian, obdurate, peremptory, inconsiderate, tyrannical, unjust, domineering or autocratic, would state an opinion bluntly and without the ad hominem implications of "jackass" (per Webster's: "a stupid or foolish person; nitwit"). (Excuse me for reprising this, I know it's been laid to rest but I can't contrive an example as illustrative.)

If a sincere apology is sufficient to reverse a ban (which I didn't know before reading this thread), then I see little wrong with the current measures.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pilla wrote:
vibrokatana wrote:
It still raises the problem that the general policy is rather wacko, 2 weeks is definately too long.


And it increases to 4 weeks when people try to evade the ban.

edit: it gets permanent when it's your second ban and you try to evade it.
what?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vibrokatana wrote:
what?


what part didn't you understand?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pilla wrote:
vibrokatana wrote:
what?


what part didn't you understand?


Sigh... he think's you're me. At least, that's what I gathered.

Also, I decided to simply drop this awhile ago, since I could tell I was getting nowhere fast. I'm done complaining/discussing, I realise the administrators don't want to change the policy, so it's pointless to try. The forums are, afterall, a dictatorship.

Edit: If my assumption is wrong, feel free to correct me.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

predatorfreak wrote:
The forums are, afterall, a dictatorship.
Edit: If my assumption is wrong, feel free to correct me.


Usually, you aren't free to go away in dictatorships.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pilla wrote:
predatorfreak wrote:
The forums are, afterall, a dictatorship.
Edit: If my assumption is wrong, feel free to correct me.


Usually, you aren't free to go away in dictatorships.


Sure you are, you just have to go out the hard way, by which I mean you have to die.

Edit: Considering that I have, in fact, apologized for my actions, can I actually get unbanned from OTW? I mean honestly, I think it's pretty dang pointless by now.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should all check your ego's at the door.

In all my years browsing the gentoo forums never have i seen such childish behavior from members + admins.

Get over yourselves and remember what the "Gentoo" forums are for.
There are much bigger problems to worry about in life.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The drama... locked, as predatorfreak has already stated he has dropped it and further discussion doesn't seem to go anywhere.
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