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SiberianSniper Guru
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:04 am Post subject: |
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There are a lot of actively developed patch sets that support Reiser4, just look through the Unsupported Software forums. There might even be some in portage, I haven't really looked that hard yet.
But whatever you choose for a filesystem, you just need to set up the filesystem on the partition and extract the tarballs like normal. It's pretty easy. Plus, you'll want to install the tools that go with that filesystem, for example reiserfsprogs to go with ReiserFS. |
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tatotato Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 27 Apr 2008 Posts: 119 Location: All Along the Watchtower
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:12 am Post subject: |
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notHerbert wrote: | I don't know reiser4, but I remember reading that it's use was discouraged in favor of a sane filesystem. I have tried reiser3.6, ext3, xfs. They are all different.
I've been using JFS for quite a while and it's my favorite one. |
What do you mean by 'sane'?
Reiser 3.6.. having a version number x.x suggests to me that it is frequently re-released? Am I correct? _________________ |spectre-net - my site about nothing | OOSBÈ! DOOVDÈ! | Take me to your dealer | |
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SiberianSniper Guru
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:22 am Post subject: |
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tatotato wrote: | Reiser 3.6.. having a version number x.x suggests to me that it is frequently re-released? Am I correct? |
Not all that frequently actually... and very infrequently now that Hans Reiser is on trial for his wife's murder while she's probably alive and well in Russia laughing at him, or else the man she was cheating on Hans with killed her, along with the other eight or so people he's admitted to killing. I'm kinda betting on the former, since no body has been found.
But people tend to criticize Reiser more than most other filesystems because it's more optimized for performance than for stability. Not that it's unstable, but there are minor issues that affect some people more than others. But you can find flaws in any filesystem if you want to. |
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tatotato Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 27 Apr 2008 Posts: 119 Location: All Along the Watchtower
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:26 am Post subject: |
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I guess you're right. I've found the kernel that I want to build (that being hitchhiker-sources). How do I install my built kernel after I do the satge tarballs?
And do I extract stage1, then stage2, then stage3 onto the partition? Or just stage3?
That's a very interesting story too. If the FS works nice, Hans is innocent _________________ |spectre-net - my site about nothing | OOSBÈ! DOOVDÈ! | Take me to your dealer | |
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dusanc Apprentice
Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 248 Location: Serbia
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:48 am Post subject: |
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Just follow the gentoo handbook for installation. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml
As for reiser4 I use it for / (not for /home) and am very pleased. Create it with cryptocompress support (LZO1) and enjoy
A1: I think it's worthvile;
A2: You'll find all the info you need in the forums (unsupported software). Just find some reiser4 livecd that you like (for your platform of choice) and follow handbook.
PS. You'll want to make /boot with ext2/3 as using it with reiser4+grub takes some (unneeded IMHO) work. |
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yngwin Retired Dev
Joined: 19 Dec 2002 Posts: 4572 Location: Suzhou, China
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:12 am Post subject: |
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If you are on x86 or amd64, you can use the SystemRescueCD as liveCD, because it has Reiser4 support. You use the normal stage3 (just stage3, not 1 and 2), following the handbook. The only difference will be that you use mkfs.reiser4 for creating your main filesystem(s), and hitchhiker-sources for your kernel. Do make a separate boot partition with ext2, because grub doesn't work from a reiser4 boot (and the patch that exists for that is very unstable).
Personally I have used Reiser4 for both root and home partitions for several years. It's been the most stable FS I have ever used. _________________ "Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
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notHerbert Advocate
Joined: 11 Mar 2008 Posts: 2228 Location: 45N 73W
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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tatotato wrote: | What do you mean by 'sane'? |
I don't know. I just read it somewhere in the Gentoo documentation. I don't remember where. Maybe in the LVM or Raid stuff.
At any rate if you want to try Reiser4, do it. If you like it, great, if you don't, no problem, try something else.
That's probably one of the nicest things about Linux and Gentoo, the opportunity to try stuff and other stuff..... I think it's supposed to be lot's of fun too. |
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kernelOfTruth Watchman
Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 6111 Location: Vienna, Austria; Germany; hello world :)
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nixnut Bodhisattva
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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merged above dozen posts here. _________________ Please add [solved] to the initial post's subject line if you feel your problem is resolved. Help answer the unanswered
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rmh3093 Advocate
Joined: 06 Aug 2003 Posts: 2138 Location: Albany, NY
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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this thread should just get locked.... reiser4 is bad news _________________ Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger. |
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tatotato Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 27 Apr 2008 Posts: 119 Location: All Along the Watchtower
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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rmh3093 wrote: | this thread should just get locked.... reiser4 is bad news |
Why is it bad news?
..okay, just because its creator got convicted of first-degree murder...
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Need4Speed Guru
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:17 am Post subject: |
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Reiser4 has so much potential. I would definitely be using it if future development was more certain. |
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Lucipher Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:37 am Post subject: |
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tatotato wrote: | rmh3093 wrote: | this thread should just get locked.... reiser4 is bad news |
Why is it bad news?
..okay, just because its creator got convicted of first-degree murder...
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Reiser4 is good and is going to be better!
And the very good news is that there are some people developing it |
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Bones McCracker Veteran
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:52 am Post subject: |
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Need4Speed wrote: | Reiser4 has so much potential. I would definitely be using it if future development was more certain. |
I agree, but I'm using it anyway. |
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kernelOfTruth Watchman
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yngwin Retired Dev
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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tatotato wrote: | rmh3093 wrote: | this thread should just get locked.... reiser4 is bad news |
Why is it bad news?
..okay, just because its creator got convicted of first-degree murder... |
Hans Reiser may be bad news, the Reiser4 filesystem certainly isn't. _________________ "Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
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drescherjm Advocate
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Need4Speed Guru
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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So does Reiser4 have a development website or at least a mailing list? I see namesys.com has been down for quite a while. |
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kernelOfTruth Watchman
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yngwin Retired Dev
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tatotato Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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That's what I meant, just worded it wrong. _________________ |spectre-net - my site about nothing | OOSBÈ! DOOVDÈ! | Take me to your dealer | |
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kernelOfTruth Watchman
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Dont Panic Guru
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Are those graphics new?
The very top graphic looks like a picture of Namesys going up in smoke in the palm of somebodies hand. |
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