ATI freezes on restart of X

j79zlr · Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:22 pm Post subject: ATI freezes on restart of X

I haven't seen this posted for a long time, but I am still having issues with my ATi drivers. I can startx once, but if I logout and restart X my computer freezes. It is still responsive since I can ssh into it, which shows X running at 99% CPU. If I kill the process via ssh the computer hardlocks and requires a restart.

The issue I have seems different than the others posted since I do not use X/K/GDM but .xinitrc and startx from a console. I can successfully start X once, logout and reboot however.

Other related information is that I cannot use VT's [common] and I have removed all framebuffers from my kernel as I've seen that posted as a possible source of the problem. It should also be noted that there are no errors in dmesg or Xorg.log and they look identical to the first instance of X started which works correctly.

The last drivers that worked fully for me are the 8.23.7 drivers. I am using the ~x86 drivers 8.33.6 & the latest stable kernel 2.6.19-r5.

Maedhros · Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:07 am Post subject:

Moved from Unsupported Software to Desktop Environments as the ATi drivers are in portage, and are therefore supported.

Please can you post your emerge --info?
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nihil39 · Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:34 pm Post subject:

Same problem here.

My graphic card is an Ati Radeon 9500 Pro (R300 chipset) and I'm using the latest (8.33.6) Ati proprietary drivers and i'm running it on a 2.6.19-gentoo-r4 box. My card has a DVI and a VGA connectors and i'm using the DVI one.

Here is my xorg.conf (only the important sections).

j79zlr · Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:57 pm Post subject:

Here's my emerge --info

nihil39 · Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:36 pm Post subject:

Up

I wonder if this is a common problem with r300 and ati proprietary drivers or if it is something related to the fact that my (our?) boards have two connectors.

IanPo · Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:59 pm Post subject:

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3857833.html#3857833

j79zlr · Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject:

Yea, I ran across that yesterday when researching this, so I wonder if its a DVI problem. I am building a new PC [actually got everything today] so I will be moving this PC and connecting it to a CRT, so I will see if that is the cause.

nihil39 · Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:23 pm Post subject:

I removed the line "video=vesafb:mtrr3,ywrap,1280x1024-32@70" from my grub.conf and I tried again with the DVI connector. In this case when I restart X I get a lot of colored vertical lines and a black square that I can move with mouse (the pointer, I suppose

).

If I use the only the VGA connector (I pulled out the DVI connector) when X starts again it starts loading gnome (I can see the gnome splash screen) but it hangs after some seconds.

I don't have the framebuffer support in the kernel, I followed the Ati drivers howto from the wiki.

j79zlr · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:57 am Post subject:

CRT makes no difference, still can't start a second X session without freezing :evil:

j79zlr · Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:59 am Post subject:

Bumpity

Just wondering if I am the only one stilling having this issue with the ATi drivers?

jpmayer87 · n00b Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 51 Location: Troy, NY

I have an issue similar. If I start xdm, then stop it, the screen just goes black and stays black. I can still interact though, because if I restart xdm from the command line by typing blindly, it comes up.

JP

nihil39 · Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:10 am Post subject:

j79zlr · Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:41 pm Post subject:

Its an X700 AGP, I just synced and got the new ATi driver, maybe it will fix it. I'm not too optimistic since the last 20 or so haven't fixed the issue.

nihil39 · Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject:

I'm going to try the latest drivers in the next days, too. Maybe the latest kernel (2.6.20) could fix this issue but I wouldn't bet on it. I'm wondering if this is an issue related with AGP cards. Is there anybody with a PCI express board experiencing this problem out there?

eqmorales · n00b Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 12

Yep,

I've the same problem with a ATI X700 PCI-e (RV410) on a A8V-E Deluxe. X hangs when I tried to switch to a terminal console or when login out X. Sometimes system is alive and I can shut it down from remote login (ssh).

ATI Drivers: 8.32.5
Kernel: 2.6.18-gentoo-r6
XOrg: 7.1.1
TFT monitor with DVI conexion

Everything else is working fine: hardware acceleration and so on

eqmorales

j79zlr · Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:15 am Post subject:

That seems to be the same. I guess they have no plans on fixing it either since it is not even listed in their "known issues" My new PC has an nVidia card and works beautifully, I will never purchase another ATi card again.

mar_rud · n00b Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Posts: 72 Location: Poland

Have You tried latest 8.34.8 version?
It fixed hangs on resume and I just checked and didn't noticed hangs on X restart (Crtl+Alt+Backspace or auto restart on logout).

j79zlr · Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:02 pm Post subject:

I posted earlier I updated to the latest 8.34.8 version, which of course, did not fix anything. I believe this is related to the switching VT's problem since both produce the exact same results. As you can see here: http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=37 The bug has been around for over 2 YEARS now and still no fix.

j79zlr · Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:30 am Post subject:

Mar_rud, what card do you have? I am seriously considering a low end nVidia to replace this X700 since I don't game or anything on this PC.

mar_rud · n00b Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Posts: 72 Location: Poland

I use Ati Radeon Xpress 200M (intergrated into my nx6125 laptop) and 32bit Gentoo, so its quite different then Yours.

Just another shot:
Do You use vesafb? Since I enabled 1400x1024 in my console, I can't suspend to ram. It hangs when it should turn off almost everything except RAM. "Unfortunately" X-restart is fine, without problems.

With earlier ati drivers, I had often X-restart hangs (I don't remember which version did or did not). I used then this in console (Ctrl+Alt+Fn):

/etc/init.d/xdm stop; rmmod fglrx; /etc/init.d/xdm start

and it worked.

n3bul4 · Apprentice Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 187

I have the same problem here.
Screen locks if I try to logout or switch the user.
Only CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE helps.

j79zlr · Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:38 pm Post subject:

Ah OK, actually the PC that the ATi card is in is a 32-bit P4, my new system is an amd64 [with an nVidia card].

I have no framebuffer in the kernel since I was trying to eliminate that as a source of the problem. When I had used a framebuffer, after logging out of X the screen would become garbled but it was still responsive, e.g. I could log into root and reboot blindly or ssh into the box, but still couldn't restart X.

n3bul4 · Apprentice Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 187

Which ATI module are you using?
The problems startet for me after I compiled
the newest stable kernel from kernel.org (2.6.20.3).
I use the radeon module from the kernel not fglrx.
Maybe there is a bug in the module?

aidanjt · Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:42 am Post subject:

This bug is unsupportable, the bug is in the fglrx binary blob, it trashes the ttys in the kernel, I've reported it to ATi but they ignore it.

n3bul4 · Apprentice Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 187

Ok I see......thanks for reply!!