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Would you like to see Gentoo branding in your favorite applications? Would you want that option on or off by default?
Yes, I would like to see Gentoo branding in my applications. I prefer the feature to be on by default.
19%
 19%  [ 47 ]
Yes, I would like to see Gentoo branding in my applications. I prefer the feature to be off by default.
44%
 44%  [ 108 ]
No, there's no need for Gentoo branding in my applications. In any case, if it gets implemented, I prefer the feature to be on by default.
1%
 1%  [ 4 ]
No, there's no need for Gentoo branding in my applications. In any case, if it gets implemented, I prefer the feature to be off by default.
26%
 26%  [ 64 ]
I refuse the idea of branding altogether.
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 7%  [ 17 ]
I have something else to say. (Post comments below)
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 0%  [ 1 ]
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well... if it is disabled per default, and you don't add branding to your use flags,you would not even know that such a thing exists.

if gentoo is all about choices, than why not letting you have the choice to use gentoo branding or not?
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

defenderBG wrote:
if gentoo is all about choices, than why not letting you have the choice to use gentoo branding or not?


Exactly! Hence : don't turn it on by default, just offer it as an option, a USE flag.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would love to see more branding. Too many people believe that Gentoo is just LFS with a package manager, but it really isn't. It is a theology. It is a mindset. Configurability. And the faster people realize they are all Gentoo users the better community will be. It gave me a nice feeling seeing the Gentoo SVG logo on Gnome when I first installed Gentoo(I admit I installed w/ the GUI but I am not a noob) and it gives the community more unity. Seeing that alone made me want to contribute.

Ok, hope I didn't tire anyone :wink:
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

--> Bad quoting. Sorry, my mistake : I misunderstood. (See post below)

Quote:
[...] I installed w/ the GUI [...] and it gives the community more unity. [...]


Not quite so sure. Have a look at this topic : Will you ever use the Gentoo Installer?


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gentoofan23 wrote:
I would love to see more branding. Too many people believe that Gentoo is just LFS with a package manager, but it really isn't. It is a theology. It is a mindset. Configurability. And the faster people realize they are all Gentoo users the better community will be. It gave me a nice feeling seeing the Gentoo SVG logo on Gnome when I first installed Gentoo(I admit I installed w/ the GUI but I am not a noob) and it gives the community more unity. Seeing that alone made me want to contribute.

Ok, hope I didn't tire anyone :wink:


It's a mental illness. Try Debian.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pascal.bolduc wrote:
gentoofan23 wrote:
[...] I installed w/ the GUI [...] and it gives the community more unity. [...]


Not quite so sure. Have a look at this topic : Will you ever use the Gentoo Installer?


You took my post out of context. I was talking about the gnome logo and said that it gave the community more unity.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gentoofan23 wrote:
You took my post out of context. I was talking about the gnome logo and said that it gave the community more unity.


Sorry about that. Didn't want to... I really thought you meant that the GUI Installer was uniting the community. I'll edit my post up there. Sorry again.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

This would actually be abuse of the vanilla flag and you only need the branding USE-flag anyway (vanilla USE flag disables patches on packages supporting it).

I agree with the quote above.

In any event, I

1-)would like branding
2-)would like it on by default
but
3-)think that other things are more important. In other words, if someone wants to create Gentoo artwork, nice, but if one is deciding between making artwork or cleaning up ebuilds, I would prefer him to clean up ebuilds.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gentoo is about choices, and I chose not to have any branding on my apps. I set USE="-branding" in /etc/make.conf just to be sure. But what did I get after updating to OpenOffice.org-2.3.0? A Gentoo splash screen!

A branding flag for openoffice-2.3.0 seems to be missing. I had a look at the ebuild and at the output of 'euse -i branding'.

So where's my choice? I had to find and edit a BMP file to get rid of this "SuSEish" behaviour. One reason for me to quit using SuSE was to get the "vanilla" look and feel of KDE and applications back. My machine displays a boot message telling the world clearly it is starting Gentoo Linux. That's sufficient for me and I would like to get my choice back.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HansP wrote:
Gentoo is about choices, and I chose not to have any branding on my apps. I set USE="-branding" in /etc/make.conf just to be sure. But what did I get after updating to OpenOffice.org-2.3.0? A Gentoo splash screen!

A branding flag for openoffice-2.3.0 seems to be missing. I had a look at the ebuild and at the output of 'euse -i branding'.

So where's my choice? I had to find and edit a BMP file to get rid of this "SuSEish" behaviour. One reason for me to quit using SuSE was to get the "vanilla" look and feel of KDE and applications back. My machine displays a boot message telling the world clearly it is starting Gentoo Linux. That's sufficient for me and I would like to get my choice back.


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It seems that nobody has realized that gentoo-branding is enabled by default in openoffice in the last version. Why? The majority of people who has voted in this unofficial poll seems to agree that gentoo-branding should be off by default. What happened?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my favorite features of Gentoo is that it keeps Gnome, KDE, and XFCE as close to upstream as it can when it comes to icon themes and whatnot.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now, guess what? Branding is ON by default in Gentoo 2008.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is hardly any Gentoo branding... What are you on about?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:

equery h branding
[ Searching for USE flag branding in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.9-r4 (3.5)
[I--] [  ] kde-base/konqueror-3.5.9 (3.5)


and the profile is:
/etc/make.profile -> ../usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/2008.0/desktop

is it something different?..
I've switched to the 2008 today and was trying to find out that flag is about. That's how I found this thread.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does it look any different? Do we have Gentoo icons in KDE now, or a Gentoo wallpaper by default?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This global flag appends "gentoo" keyword to browser's useragent string in KDE/Gnome (at least).
It's also adds Gentoo-{Bugzilla,Forum} search shortcuts to Konqueror (not sure about gnome).
It's not a big deal for today, I even like it, but it's still branding and it's on by default.
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