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niffs
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 Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 5:59 am Post subject: Alsa Defaults to Wrong Soundcard |
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Well, here's the story. I have two sound cards: An integrated NVidia AC'97 type thing, and a PCI SoundBlaster Live! EMU10k1 based card. I much prefer the EMU10k1 to the AC'97, but for some reason the modules for the AC'97 are always loaded, and it gets set as the default soundcard by alsa. This is undesirable.
There must be a simple way to disable the AC'97 or set the EMU10k1 as the default, no? I could go through and recompile my kernel without support for the AC'97, but I would sort of like to still have support for it, just in case the EMU10k1 gets fried next time I dissect my box, or something. Is there a file (hotplug or modprobe perhaps?) that I could edit to make it prefer the EMU10k1?
Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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desultory
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| Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 6:18 am Post subject: |
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| niffs wrote: | | Is there a file (hotplug or modprobe perhaps?) that I could edit to make it prefer the EMU10k1? |
Yes, /etc/modules.d/alsa. There are other ways. |
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niffs
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| Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 6:31 am Post subject: |
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Well... /etc/modules.d/alsa:
| Code: | alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss
alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
alias sound-slot-0 snd-emu10k1 |
and still...
I get the impression the AC'97 modules are being autoloaded and are taking over...
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| Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 6:43 am Post subject: |
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| Post the contents of /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6. |
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niffs
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| Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 6:50 am Post subject: |
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Tis empty. Should emu10k1 modules go in there?
But the problem isn't that the modules aren't being loaded... its just that the ac97 modules load as well, and take over...
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desultory
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| Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:04 am Post subject: |
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| niffs wrote: | | Tis empty. Should emu10k1 modules go in there? |
It might be worth trying.
| niffs wrote: | | But the problem isn't that the modules aren't being loaded... |
I realize that, my interest was in the order in which the modules are loaded.
| niffs wrote: | | its just that the ac97 modules load as well, and take over... |
Take over how? |
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niffs
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| Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:08 am Post subject: |
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Nevermind. I'm being a moron. Solution was creating /etc/asound.conf:
| Code: | pcm.!default {
type hw
card 1
}
ctl.!default {
type hw
card 1
} |
I think what was happening was, modules for both cards were loaded, and when alsa found I hadn't specified a default in asound.conf, it just chose card #0, i.e. the AC97. Thanks for the help, and sorry for being stupid 
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| Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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Hello,
i think you can also make the emu10k1 to card 0 if you edit the /etc/modules.d/alsa and add a new line at the end with this | Code: | | options snd-emu10k1 index=0 |
. If you do this you need to change your /etc/asound.conf to use card 0 instead of card 1. This is the way i make my Delta1010LT default instead of my SB Live.
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niffs
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| Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting... I'll try this.
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| Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I tried it out, but it didn't really do much to help... so I'm just going back to using /etc/asound.conf to set card 1 as default.
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slyyls
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Hey everybody,
Alright, i have a similar problem, so instead of starting a new threat, i'm posting in this one.
My setup:
on-board sound card: via82xx
Quickcam pro 3000: snd-usb-audio
Problem:
The logitech quickcam becomes card0 (default) because it gets loaded first. No sound works because it tries to play to the quickcam which is a mic.
| Code: | cat /proc/asound/cards
0 [U0x46d0x8b0 ]: USB-Audio - USB Device 0x46d:0x8b0
USB Device 0x46d:0x8b0 at usb-0000:00:10.0-1, full speed
1 [V8235 ]: VIA8233 - VIA 8235
VIA 8235 with ALC650D at 0xdc00, irq 18
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Possible solutions:
| Code: | /etc/modules.d/alsa
# OSS/Free portion - card #1
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
# OSS/Free portion - card #2
alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss
# Set this to the correct number of cards.
#option snd-via82xx index=-2
# --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
# --- ALSACONF version 1.0.13 ---
alias snd-card-1 snd-via82xx
alias sound-slot-1 snd-via82xx
alias snd-card-0 snd-usb-audio
alias sound-slot-0 snd-usb-audio
# --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
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Tried fiddling with index=-2, index=0, ..., does not work.
Next, tried
| Code: | /etc/asound.conf
pcm.!default {
type hw
card 1
}
ctl.!default {
type hw
card 1
} |
when i run mplayer, i get the following error
| Code: | | alsa-init: playback open error: Permission denied |
Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Thanks
Sly |
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slyyls
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Hey,
Never mind, it was an operator error.
I was fixing this problem at the same time as fixing the Webcam/PVR problem (adding custom rules to udev because sometimes Quickcam was /dev/video0 and PVR was /dev/video1, other times it would be the opposite) and was using ssh. Problem was this ssh user was not in the audio group. I changed users and it seems to work now.
Thanks anyways,
Sly |
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lramos85
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:38 am Post subject: |
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I also have a similar problem with my usb-audio device. The problem is that I can't get any sound playback through my usb-audio device.
This is what I have:
| Code: | cat /proc/asound/cards
0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
HDA Intel at 0xefffc000 irq 50
1 [Audio ]: USB-Audio - USB Audio
USB Audio at usb-0000:00:1d.7-6.1.4, full speed |
This is my alsa configuration file. I think this is where I'm doing things wrong. I manually added the lines for snd-usb-audio because I could not do that with the alsaconf. Is this a Problem?
| Code: | # Set this to the correct number of cards.
/etc/modules.d/alsa
# --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
# --- ALSACONF version 1.0.14rc1 ---
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel
alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio
alias sound-slot-1 snd-usb-audio
# --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit |
| Code: |
/etc/asound.conf
pcm.!default {
type hw
card 1
}
ctl.!default {
type hw
card 1
} |
this is my device:
| Code: | | Bus 001 Device 009: ID 0d8c:0006 C-Media Electronics, Inc. |
| Code: | lsmod | grep -i snd
snd_seq 60800 0
snd_usb_audio 87968 1
snd_usb_lib 20736 1 snd_usb_audio
snd_rawmidi 25600 1 snd_usb_lib
snd_seq_device 11924 2 snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
snd_hwdep 12552 1 snd_usb_audio
snd_hda_intel 20380 1
snd_hda_codec 191232 1 snd_hda_intel
snd_pcm 83976 3 snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_timer 25864 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd 52656 13 snd_seq,snd_usb_audio,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_hwdep,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore 13216 1 snd
snd_page_alloc 12688 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
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| Code: | dmesg | grep -i snd
snd-usb-audio 1-6.1.4:1.0: usb_probe_interface
snd-usb-audio 1-6.1.4:1.0: usb_probe_interface - got id
usbcore: registered new driver snd-usb-audio |
It correctly changes my default audio device to snd-usb-audio (from my port replicator) but there is no sound. I get errors about not being able to use that device. Any idea?
| Code: | | alsa-init: unable to set hw-parameters: Broken pipe |
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Dominique_71
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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If you read the f. doc, you will find the answer in ALSA-Configuration.txt in both the kernel sources and in alsa-driver doc (at the end of the file). You MUST have an index=x option for each sound card AND a cards_limit=y statement in /etc/modules.d/alsa. Don't forget to run modules_update. To test if it work, move or remove any .asoundrc file. Such a file is normally not needed and in all cases, it is not the place to define the default sound card. If it doesn't work (but it work), it is a bug and must be reported. Simple no?
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lramos85
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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I read the Documentation and did what you suggested, Although it is more clean now, it still doesn't work.
This is my new Config:
| Code: | options snd cards_limit=2
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio
options snd-hda-intel index=1
options snd-usb-audio index=0
alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel
alias sound-slot-1 snd-usb-audio |
Again, I'm able to switch to the snd-usb-audio perfectly, but it won't play any sound. I still get the same error:
| Code: | | alsa-init: unable to set hw-parameters: Broken pipe |
I also tried both the software and the kernel alsa with the same results. I have no idea what is wrong, Alsa recognizes the device (its a port replicator audio out plugs from C-Media) and it shows fine on the Mixer and everything. Guess its time for reporting a bug?
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lramos85
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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 Finally I got it to work. Turns out since I'm using a port replicator, and the sound device is inside of it, the snd-usb-audio device is technically connected through a USB Hub. I found out that this caused problems when I searched around the bug trackers and found that I needed to have this option SET in the kernel:
| Code: | | # CONFIG_USB_EHCI_SPLIT_ISO |
After setting that Option to YES, and make && make modules_install everything worked fine, thanks for everything.
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