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 Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:55 pm Post subject: Radeon XPress 200M - any alternative except ati-drivers |
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ati-drivers are the last unfree driver in the kernel. Also it often works just wrong(currently it mess the screen when enters 3D).
I've tried to use x11-dri but I've got unaccelerated mode. Did I missed something or I have no chance for 3D.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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According to http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon there seem to be two different cards named xpress 200m. If you have a RV370 / M22 Chip 3D should work, if your machine has a RS400, you're in a less lucky situation:
| http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon wrote: | RS400
Radeon XPRESS 200/200M IGP
Broken memory initialisation for 2D/3D. ( git version has fixes for this since June 2007, needs more testing on differing models )
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In such case you might want to try out the git version.... |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Well - how to check it? Searching through the X.org log do not help.
I've tried version from git but I've received no acceleration. I'm also unable to use x11 overlay as /usr/lib/libxcb-xlib.la was removed and pango (among others) cannot be build.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:45 am Post subject: |
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Just check with lspci. On my laptop it shows:
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01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M9+ 5C61 [Radeon Mobility 9200 (AGP)] (rev 01)
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So I am lucky to have an old ati card with a M9+ chip that is supported by the open source radeon driver, including 3D support.
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I guess if you already tried the git version and still get no acceleration, the only way to get 2D/3D acceleration is the poor binary driver.... It'll get better in a couple of weeks, months! Novell is developing the open source driver for AMD, so I guess its a matter of time until everything works well.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:37 am Post subject: |
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| Code: | | 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M |
RC410?
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:00 am Post subject: |
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| Hm, I suggest you stick to the binary drivers as long as radeonhd doesn't work. I remember there were problems with previous ati drivers not displaying cursors and pointers right. This shouldn't be the case with the latest unmasked drivers. Did you try the unmasked ati-drivers? |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| fidel wrote: | | Hm, I suggest you stick to the binary drivers as long as radeonhd doesn't work. I remember there were problems with previous ati drivers not displaying cursors and pointers right. This shouldn't be the case with the latest unmasked drivers. Did you try the unmasked ati-drivers? |
I don't use and can't use radeonhd - the card is too old.
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By unmasked ati-drivers do you mean the ~x86? I have the whole system on ~x86.
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Sorry! Got confused! You say you tried x11-dri, do you mean the in-kernel drm module or have you installed x11-drm? On my laptop with the radeon 9200 I get 3D acceleration with the latest x11-drm from portage (as well on a computer with a radeon 9600xt). Not sure whether I put that Load "drm" within the section module myself or not, sure worth checking.
Ehm, I suggest you take x11-drm from portage and load the drm module within xorg.conf. Hope that works!
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| Quote: | | I have the whole system on ~x86. |
... I never do that!
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:50 am Post subject: |
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From portage (or rather overlay). I can try with the kernel one...
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:00 am Post subject: |
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| I wouldn't even try the kernel module. I would stick to radeon from xorg and x11-drm from portage and I would definitely not use an unstable arch. Do you load the drm module within xorg.conf and does lsmod show the drm module? |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:16 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I wouldn't even try the kernel module. I would stick to radeon from xorg and x11-drm from portage |
From portage of x11 overlay?
| Quote: | | and I would definitely not use an unstable arch. |
I'm using it for a long time.
| Quote: | | Do you load the drm module within xorg.conf and does lsmod show the drm module? |
Yes. I've loaded and lsmod has shown (drm, radeon & co.).
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:29 am Post subject: |
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Not from any overlay, just plain from portage. But hey, as it seems that this is not going to work for you, honestly, I know its not nice, still, I would stick to the binary driver. Here everything works great, with stable arch, just some packages are masked (almost none). I use xorg-x11-7.2, xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6, x11-drm-20071019 on a kernel 2.6.24-gentoo-r8 and have no issues at all. Even with the 5 years old notebook with the radeon 9200 compiz is running smoothly.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:33 am Post subject: |
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In my case everything run smoothly until yesterday when it messed in the 3D mode...
I'll try the downgrade of kernel.
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