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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok now i made all this and it looks really nice :) with small exception..

http://www.ftims.com/screen.png
http://www.ftims.com/screen2.png (it's error 404, this file exist :D)
http://www.ftims.com/screen4.png (small blue inscription on left)

try all things here i think, combine diffrent values in fontconfig but nothing helps for that cases :/
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Umm, the move from freetype 2.2 to 2.3 changed the looks a bit. The fonts are bolder now.

I didn't like it much(but it does look good), so I found a "fix": Change the font hinting to Full.

In KDE it can be found in Control Center > Look & Themes (I'm translating from Portuguese) > Fonts > |Check| Anti-aliasing > Hinting: Full
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Filter flags are gone now. Installing without bindist gives us bci and default filter. Updated guide to reflect this.
kamracik wrote:
ok now i made all this and it looks really nice :) with small exception..

http://www.ftims.com/screen.png
http://www.ftims.com/screen2.png (it's error 404, this file exist :D)
http://www.ftims.com/screen4.png (small blue inscription on left)

try all things here i think, combine diffrent values in fontconfig but nothing helps for that cases :/

Please don't mess with fontconfig. Force fonts in your browser for Central European to something else. About this "inscription". Are you talking about "expanded!" thing? It is just the way this font looks.

Bartmanw wrote:

Here it is:

Code:
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/cairo-1.3.12  USE="X newspr -debug -directfb -doc -glitz -svg -xcb" 0 kB [1]
[ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/libXft-2.1.12  USE="newspr -debug" 0 kB [1]
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/freetype-2.3.1_p20070207  USE="filter_default zlib -bindist -demos -doc -filter_legacy -filter_light" 0 kB [1]

Total: 3 packages (3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 0 kB
Portage overlays:
 [1] /usr/portage/local/layman/xeffects

Looks OK. Try recompiling everything that depends on cairo, libXft and freetype.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

boniek, please contact via irc. I want to get you setup on the xeffects wiki so you can post the guide there. Just like to keep all xeffects documentation in the same spot.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx boniek ;) i didnt think about it :) simply changed font to Times New Roman and everything back to normal :)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My fonts look great now. Thank you :)

Nice avatar btw.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got lost :(
After some recent update to freetype (withdrawn use flags) or something else my fonts look bad again.
Which freetype version is recommended?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peka wrote:
I got lost :(
After some recent update to freetype (withdrawn use flags) or something else my fonts look bad again.
Which freetype version is recommended?

Not sure it is a reason. I was forced to mask last cairo 1.3.14 from official portage tree as xeffects SVN is not available for me during last days.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peka, this happened because you installed cairo from portage instead of overlay just as anli said. I have just updated cairo in overlay to 1.3.14. Sorry for delay.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boniek wrote:
I have just updated cairo in overlay to 1.3.14. Sorry for delay.


I have this reply:

svn up
svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/xeffects/trunk'
svn: PROPFIND of '/xeffects/trunk': 500 Internal Server Error (http://svn.gentoo-xeffects.org)

Few messages ago you have written to be patient. I still am :)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anli, xeffects overlay changed its address to svn://svn.gentoo-xeffects.org/xeffects/trunk. Remove your local tree and check it out again but from new address this time.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boniek wrote:
Peka, this happened because you installed cairo from portage instead of overlay just as anli said. I have just updated cairo in overlay to 1.3.14. Sorry for delay.

No harm done :)
Cheers Mate!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boniek wrote:
Anli, xeffects overlay changed its address to svn://svn.gentoo-xeffects.org/xeffects/trunk. Remove your local tree and check it out again but from new address this time.

Thanks! - updating just now.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok,

Anyone here have ghostscript/cups support with media-fonts/gnu-gs-fonts-std installed?

I tried to rebuild my font cache (fc-cache) and this package causes fc-cache to hang and drive the CPU though the roof. I unmerged it and fc-cache worked fine.

The problem is it appears to be a dep of any of the ghostscript builds in portage.

If I leave it installed, I cannot run kdm as kdm_greet stalls (looks like it wants to rebuild the font cache at some point) and cpu goes to 100%.

Any ideas on why this particular font package is not liking fontconfig/freetype?

I had everything working fine until upgrade to new freetype/cairo/libxft, so I assume it's related...

Any help would be appreciated as this is driving me mad.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for reporting. I can reproduce this problem on my machine. It seems to be bug in cvs version of freetype (not related to newspr patches). I will inform upstream about it. As a workaround use ebuild of freetype-2.3.1 from official portage tree.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just changed KEYWORDS in ebuilds for snapshots of freetype to reflect their unstable nature. Now normally you should install freetype-2.3.1 from official portage (it is pretty stable and shouldn't give you any unexpected problems), but if you feel adventurous you may try snapshots.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I'm happy Paludis user I have added Paludis specific info to the guide.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

boniek, contact me on irc so I can give you access to the wiki so we can put the documentation there.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to nesl247 guide moved to xeffects wiki. You can find it [here].
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure if this is just me as these things vary from system to system but when i set "Font Hinting" to either medium or full the fonts look horrible! Only slight hinting makes them look good. I also agree that the 'bold' font is way too bold. I hope this is fixed soon.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

na641 wrote:
Not sure if this is just me as these things vary from system to system but when i set "Font Hinting" to either medium or full the fonts look horrible! Only slight hinting makes them look good. I also agree that the 'bold' font is way too bold. I hope this is fixed soon.

What kind of Desktop Environment you are using? What freetype, cairo, libXft versions? Please provide screen shots with full and slight hinting.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boniek wrote:
na641 wrote:
Not sure if this is just me as these things vary from system to system but when i set "Font Hinting" to either medium or full the fonts look horrible! Only slight hinting makes them look good. I also agree that the 'bold' font is way too bold. I hope this is fixed soon.

What kind of Desktop Environment you are using? What freetype, cairo, libXft versions? Please provide screen shots with full and slight hinting.


I am using Xfce 4.4, here's the relevant package info:

Code:
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/freetype-2.3.1  USE="zlib -bindist -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/cairo-1.3.14  USE="X glitz newspr svg -debug -directfb -doc -xcb" 0 kB [2]
[ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/libXft-2.1.12  USE="newspr -debug" 0 kB [2]


With fullhint

With slighthint

Notice the bold window title font, which looks like utter crap with full hinting. Also, the console font looks much nicer with slight hint (especially the bold parts)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forgot one thing. What fonts are you using (font size and DPI as well please)?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

boniek wrote:
Forgot one thing. What fonts are you using (font size and DPI as well please)?


Sure thing. Dpi is 96x96. Console font is consolas, titlebar font is HandelGotD. Both font's are sized at 9pt.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is how it looks for me:

HandelGotD:
https://boniek.homelinux.org/~boniek/desktop/handelgotd_full.png
https://boniek.homelinux.org/~boniek/desktop/handelgotd_slight.png

They look equally bad to me :). Some font families seem to not play well with newspr. Looks like HandelGotD is one of them (another example would be DejaVu faimly).

Consolas:
https://boniek.homelinux.org/~boniek/desktop/full.png
https://boniek.homelinux.org/~boniek/desktop/slight.png
https://boniek.homelinux.org/~boniek/desktop/full_nobold.png
https://boniek.homelinux.org/~boniek/desktop/full_nobold_verasans.png

Personally I prefer full hinting, bitstream vera sans with bold disabled in terminal emulator ;) .
Bold fonts are Achilles' heel of freetype (they are just too bold). I don't know of any way to remedy this. Personally I just avoid bold fonts whenever I can.
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