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halfgaar l33t


Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 781 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:30 pm Post subject: X.org 7.1 DPMS (display power management) |
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I just upgraded to X.org 7.1 (from 7.0), and now my monitor won't go into standby/suspend/off anymore. It is enabled properly:
part of "xset q":
Code: | DPMS (Energy Star):
Standby: 600 Suspend: 660 Off: 3000
DPMS is Enabled
Monitor is On |
Forcing suspend using "xset dpms force suspend" also works fine.
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zxiiro Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 98 Location: Ottawa
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Same problem here. |
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halfgaar l33t


Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 781 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Strangely enough, after this bug report, it did go into standby. It seems as though it does work once you've run "xset dpms force suspend" (or another power mode). Can you confirm this, zxiiro? _________________ Linux backups the right way.
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zxiiro Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 98 Location: Ottawa
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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halfgaar wrote: | Strangely enough, after this bug report, it did go into standby. It seems as though it does work once you've run "xset dpms force suspend" (or another power mode). Can you confirm this, zxiiro? |
That solution did not work for me. It did go into suspend when I typed the command though, but not automatically after xx minutes. |
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halfgaar l33t


Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 781 Location: Netherlands
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ppurka Advocate

Joined: 26 Dec 2004 Posts: 3256
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:56 am Post subject: |
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I had this problem with nvidia-drivers 8774 and xorg 7.1 about a month back. However, I downgraded xorg to 7.0 since then, and I do not face such problems anymore.
But I do remember that DPMS would not work, and moreover the CTRL+ALT+<KP +>/<KP -> which are used to rotate through the different resolutions present in xorg.conf did not work. Could you confirm if the above keybindings still work in xorg 7.1? If not, it is either a bug in Xorg or in nvidia-drivers (assuming you are using nvidia drivers too). |
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halfgaar l33t


Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 781 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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I have nvidia-drivers 1.0.8774, and I also had them with Xorg 7.0. In 7.0, I didn't have this DPMS issue. It came when I upgraded X.org.
Also, not really relevant to the subject, but my CTRL-ALT+/- keys work fine. _________________ Linux backups the right way.
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Miwer n00b

Joined: 27 Aug 2003 Posts: 24 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:06 am Post subject: |
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I can confirm this problem too... although with a twist. with a freshly (re)started Xorg, DPMS is working fine for me, but as soon as I watch some live tv in MythTV and exits, DPMS is not working until I either restart Xorg, or change some DPMS settings or use the force command. After that DPMS is working again.
MythTV is supposed to deactivate DPMS when watching tv, and reactivate it when not. Here's another user that have exactly this problem:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/commits/233294
AMD64 2.6.17-r7
xorg-7.1
nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776 |
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ppurka Advocate

Joined: 26 Dec 2004 Posts: 3256
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:58 am Post subject: |
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I have upgraded to nvidia-1.0.9626 with xorg-7.0 here. DPMS and the CTRL+ALT+<KP_+/-> work fine. I haven't dared to upgrade to 7.1 (why break a working system ). |
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halfgaar l33t


Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 781 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:26 am Post subject: |
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I've had my problem under observation for a while now, and it seems to be the opposite of what Miwer states. My DPMS works fine when X is freshly started, but when I have open mplayer or something else that deactivates DPMS, it won't go into standby/suspend/off again. But, I'm not completely sure of this, it could also be random... Problem is not solved yet, anyway.
I recently upgraded to nvidia-drivers 1.0.8776 BTW, but that didn't help. Didn't expect it to, because the problem seems to be X.org. _________________ Linux backups the right way.
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gegen n00b


Joined: 11 Dec 2002 Posts: 10 Location: Argentina - Santa Fe
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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I had the same symptom after upgrading to xorg-x11 7.1
Told me that I had DPMS enabled. I didn't quite get it.
So, browsing some Xorg manuals, I found some xorg.conf configuration parameters (values are in minutes), which I added
Code: | Section "ServerFlags"
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Option "StandbyTime" "20"
Option "SuspendTime" "30"
Option "OffTime" "60"
EndSection |
And now my monitor suspends right as it did before upgrading. Could this be an xscreensaver issue then? _________________ Never make any mistaeks. |
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ppurka Advocate

Joined: 26 Dec 2004 Posts: 3256
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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halfgaar wrote: | I've had my problem under observation for a while now, and it seems to be the opposite of what Miwer states. My DPMS works fine when X is freshly started, but when I have open mplayer or something else that deactivates DPMS, it won't go into standby/suspend/off again. But, I'm not completely sure of this, it could also be random... Problem is not solved yet, anyway.
I recently upgraded to nvidia-drivers 1.0.8776 BTW, but that didn't help. Didn't expect it to, because the problem seems to be X.org. | Oh! I have seen that gmplayer is notorious for not restoring the DPMS to on after it finishes playing (for eg., if you click on the close button instead of pressing q to quit). mplayer does restore the DPMS setting though. |
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halfgaar l33t


Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 781 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Mplayer (the normal one) did exactly the same, not restoring the screensaver status when you press the close button, giving a broken pipe error, if I remember correctly. That's why I wrote a wrapper script which would save current DPMS status, start mplayer, and restore DPMS setting. Good to know they fixed that bug, because now I don't need that script anymore. It's also strange that they fixed it, because a bug report I filed once, was dismissed as invalid, and the window managers were blaimed for the fault.
But this is not the problem I'm experiencing now. As stated, even when "xset q" reports DPMS to be active, it won't engage. At least, sometimes it does, and sometimes it won't. _________________ Linux backups the right way.
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Mad Merlin Veteran

Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 1155
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 3:44 am Post subject: |
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ppurka wrote: | halfgaar wrote: | I've had my problem under observation for a while now, and it seems to be the opposite of what Miwer states. My DPMS works fine when X is freshly started, but when I have open mplayer or something else that deactivates DPMS, it won't go into standby/suspend/off again. But, I'm not completely sure of this, it could also be random... Problem is not solved yet, anyway.
I recently upgraded to nvidia-drivers 1.0.8776 BTW, but that didn't help. Didn't expect it to, because the problem seems to be X.org. | Oh! I have seen that gmplayer is notorious for not restoring the DPMS to on after it finishes playing (for eg., if you click on the close button instead of pressing q to quit). mplayer does restore the DPMS setting though. |
I've noticed that gmplayer-bin (on amd64) does this with great regularity, I have never seen this issue with regular gmplayer. _________________ Game! - Where the stick is mightier than the sword! |
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evoweiss Veteran


Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Posts: 1678 Location: Edinburgh, UK
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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Hi all,
Because my work day today is totally unproductive, I thought I'd chime in with a "me too" message. I've noticed of late the same problems with similar symptoms. Interestingly, I had this problem way back when I was running XFree. The problem then was mplayer, which, for some reason, didn't reactivate dpms and given these posts it seems as if the same thing is happening again. I am not sure whether xine does the same thing.
I've also still got this fullscreen playback issue, which I posted about elsewhere.
Hoping somebody figures this out. Has anybody posted this to a bug tracker?
Best,
Alex
Mad Merlin wrote: | ppurka wrote: | halfgaar wrote: | I've had my problem under observation for a while now, and it seems to be the opposite of what Miwer states. My DPMS works fine when X is freshly started, but when I have open mplayer or something else that deactivates DPMS, it won't go into standby/suspend/off again. But, I'm not completely sure of this, it could also be random... Problem is not solved yet, anyway.
I recently upgraded to nvidia-drivers 1.0.8776 BTW, but that didn't help. Didn't expect it to, because the problem seems to be X.org. | Oh! I have seen that gmplayer is notorious for not restoring the DPMS to on after it finishes playing (for eg., if you click on the close button instead of pressing q to quit). mplayer does restore the DPMS setting though. |
I've noticed that gmplayer-bin (on amd64) does this with great regularity, I have never seen this issue with regular gmplayer. |
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ppurka Advocate

Joined: 26 Dec 2004 Posts: 3256
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:39 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
I updated xorg and nvidia-drivers today. Everything seems to be working fine (DPMS is working and CTRL+ALT+<KP_+/-> is working)
FYI:
Code: | ~> emerge -pv xorg-server xorg-x11 nvidia-drivers
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild R ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.1.1-r1 USE="aiglx dri nptl sdl xorg -3dfx -debug -dmx -ipv6 -kdrive -minimal -xprint" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse -acecad -aiptek -calcomp -citron -digitaledge -dmc -dynapro -elo2300 -elographics -evdev -fpit -hyperpen -jamstudio -joystick -magellan -microtouch -mutouch -palmax -penmount -spaceorb -summa -synaptics -tek4957 -ur98 -vmmouse -void -wacom" VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia -apm -ark -chips -cirrus -cyrix -dummy -epson -fbdev -fglrx -glint -i128 -i740 -i810 (-impact) -imstt -mach64 -mga -neomagic (-newport) -nsc -nv -r128 -radeon -rendition -s3 -s3virge -savage -siliconmotion -sis -sisusb (-sunbw2) (-suncg14) (-suncg3) (-suncg6) (-sunffb) (-sunleo) (-suntcx) -tdfx -tga -trident -tseng -v4l -vesa -vga -via -vmware -voodoo" 0 kB
[ebuild R ] x11-base/xorg-x11-7.1 0 kB
[ebuild R ] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.9629 USE="dlloader" 0 kB
Total size of downloads: 0 kB |
EDIT: Seems I spoke too soon. The DPMS bug is still there. |
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elvanor Developer


Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 178 Location: France
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
Same problem here. xset q reports DPMS is enabled. When I first boot the system, my monitor does go off, but if I work normally with my computer, after a period of time it stops working. I don't know if it's because I launch mplayer or not (it may be), the fact is that it stops working, I don't have time to make extensive tests to see what is the real trigger...
I am running AMD64-stable so this includes Xorg 7.1 and drivers from Nvidia (I have a GeForce 7600).
Should we file a bug report, and where?
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gegen n00b


Joined: 11 Dec 2002 Posts: 10 Location: Argentina - Santa Fe
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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Emerging x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.9629 (which are in ~ for amd64 and x86) solved the DPMS issue for me. I've been testing that for 3 or 4 days and everything works as it did before.
Before trying with lastest drivers in ~amd64 I tried with x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8774, which kept the same behaviour with DPMS.
You should give x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.9629 a try. _________________ Never make any mistaeks. |
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Tanj Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 17 Oct 2002 Posts: 79 Location: London Ontario Canada
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:00 am Post subject: |
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I don't know if this is related. But xorg will go to a blank screen aand after about 10seconds my monitor will flash "No Signal" and try to go into power save mode but as soon as it does xorg trips it back to a blank screen and the cycle continues.
Code: | $ xset dpms force suspend;xset q;sleep 7;xset q;sleep 5;xset q |
shows the monitor to be in suspend during the whole sequence. (7seconds is the time it takes the monitor to display "No Signal" )
If anybody has a clue what to do about this I would be greatful. I have been manually turning off my monitor to avoid seeing it happen :/ _________________ Please don't make ignorant statements. It hurts my brain. |
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dd2k n00b

Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 6
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Hi all,
I have the exact same problem here. Glad I find this post proves I am not so unlucky, the problem has already puzzled me for a while. Upgrading the nv driver is not an option for me as my laptop use an ati x300. I am using ati proprietary driver, hopefully a fix will come up soon. |
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halfgaar l33t


Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 781 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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I find it kind of strange that this problem occurs with ATi and NVidia hardware, and can be fixed by upgrading the drivers in case of NVidia. It may work, I just think it's strange... _________________ Linux backups the right way.
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cyberjun Apprentice


Joined: 06 Nov 2005 Posts: 293
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:17 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
I too have the same problem with a nvidia driver on a toshiba satellite laptop. This appears to be a known issue with Xorg 7.1 and probably will be fixed in 7.2. Have you people seen the following bug report?
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5665
cheers,
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dmpogo Advocate

Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 3001 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:35 am Post subject: |
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halfgaar wrote: | I have nvidia-drivers 1.0.8774, and I also had them with Xorg 7.0. In 7.0, I didn't have this DPMS issue. It came when I upgraded X.org.
Also, not really relevant to the subject, but my CTRL-ALT+/- keys work fine. |
Yep, I also have a problem with X 7.1 and nvidia-8776 on amd64
Code: |
$ xset q
Server does not have DPMS extension
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although Xorg.log shows that both DPMS extension and the option to the server is loaded
(II) Loading extension DPMS
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(**) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled
Same Xorg.conf worked fine with previous version, including, I believe X 7.0 and nvidia-8774 |
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halfgaar l33t


Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 781 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:07 am Post subject: |
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I'm not sure ACPI events are my problem, because when I force a DPMS mode, it stays there. It just doesn't want to time out into a DPMS mode. But, we'll see. I would seem that waiting for the appropriate upgrade is all I can do. I hope Nvidia 9629 becomes stable soon. I'd like to exerpiment with composite rendering. _________________ Linux backups the right way.
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asg719 n00b

Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 61 Location: Manitou Springs, CO
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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halfgaar wrote: | I hope Nvidia 9629 becomes stable soon. I'd like to exerpiment with composite rendering. |
Using Nvidia driver 9631 with xorg 7.1 on an AMD64 build and I am having this issue. I can force DPMS mode but it won't kick in by itself. |
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