xorg-x11 fails

Kopernikus · Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:34 pm Post subject: xorg-x11 fails

Hello you all,
first I have to tell you that I'm German and my English is not very good.
But I hope you can understand me.

So now, thats my problem:

I've installed Gentoo on Friday on my new computer. (I've listed my Hardware at the end of this post.)
The Install works fine without any bigger problems.
But now I wanted to install 'xorg-x11'.
But it brokes with this lines:

UncleOwen · Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: xorg-x11 fails

Kopernikus · Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:53 pm Post subject:

Ok that's all I can see on my screen:

NeddySeagoon · Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:30 pm Post subject:

Kopernikus,

We need the command and the error message that resulted from the very first error in the package.
All the other messages are emerge 'tidying up' to exit cleanly.
You can scroll the console screen with Shift+PageUp.

If you emerge gpm you can have copy and paste in the console too, so you need not copy type.

If the first error is too far back, then you will need to set up logging in /etc/make.conf.
The file /etc/make.conf.example shows how.
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Kopernikus · Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:24 pm Post subject:

Sorry for that long text.
But thats the whole output: :roll:

NeddySeagoon · Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:27 pm Post subject:

Kopernikus,

This is the command that failed

Kopernikus · Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:26 pm Post subject:

Ok, I searched at bugs.gentoo.org and found someone who has the same problem as me.
But I didn't found a solution for my problem.
The bug I found is from 06.07.2006.

What should I do?
Will new installing gentoo help?

Why is this packet marked stable when it isn't stable?
:roll:

I don't know what to do.
Everytime problems.

cu
Kopernikus

NeddySeagoon · Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:35 pm Post subject:

Kopernikus,

Reinstalling won't fix it - something is broken somewhere and needs to be fixed.
Can you post the bug number please - I can't find anything useful.
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Kopernikus · Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:45 pm Post subject:

Ok, thats the only useful I found.

Number: 138782

cu
Kopernikus

NeddySeagoon · Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:40 pm Post subject:

Kopernikus,

Thats is not a related error.

Try posting a new bug. The developers will reply to you when the bug is classified.

You could try the testing version to see if that has the same problem. If you wish to do that, unmak it by adding

Kopernikus · Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:46 pm Post subject:

Ok, I tested it with the masked libX11.
But it also didn't work.

I'm totaly despaired now.

I don't ´know what I should do.
Is it a error in portage, or is it beacause of my system.

How to create a bug report.
I don't know what to tell them!
I never created a bug report. :roll:

Sorry, but I'm a bit angry to Gentoo. I think that isn't a fail of mine.

Help me.
regards,
Kopernikus

EDIT: OK, I've created a Bug-Report. Here's the number if anyone is interested: 143952

Gentree · Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:46 pm Post subject:

Kopernikus · Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 2:53 pm Post subject:

Ok.
Now I install xorg-x11-6.8.2-r7.
First I had to unmerge all that 'lib' shit, because it was troubling with xorg-x11-6.8.2-r7.
I hope the installation works now.
When the problem with this libx11 package is solved I will reinstall my system and start completly new.

@Gentree:
Did I understand you right?:
Because of my (new) Hardware I'm a tester?

Cu.
Kopernikus

Gentree · Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:40 pm Post subject:

since all software has bugs we are all testers to some degree.

M$ make you pay for support even if it's their buggy software, other distros take months or expect you to get into IRC channels and become a dev. I think you'll find better support here than anywhere else.

my point is you have hardware that is not very wide spread yet and you chose a distro that trys to get the most out of the hardware at the expence of simplicity. This means more choice , more permutations and hence less testing of each possible combination.

So your choice may give you some issues to iron out. That seems to be well within your capacities.

this package was marked stable on amd64 on 30.06.06 , it may be that this was a bit premature if this bug is comfirmed.

You could try suse, since you have fast hardware you wont realise how slow it is

Gentoo is not the easiest distro to install and maintain but I like it.

In case you have not seen it there is a specific forum for AMD64 Gentoo that may help you with problems like this. There is a specific call for users to indicate where development effort needs to be focused.

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-358870.html

HTH

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NeddySeagoon · Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:02 pm Post subject:

Kopernikus,

Don't dispair and don't be angry at Gentoo.

I can tell from your posts that the problem is not something you have done or not done.
Its either something with the source code, or less likley, the ebuild. Therefore the fix is either with the Xorg developers or the Gentoo developers.

Until its fixed, all you can do is try different versions, I suggested a later one, Gentree the earlier one.

In your bug report, you should post a description of the problem, your

Kopernikus · Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:11 pm Post subject:

Hello all,
I've installed xorg-x11-6.8.2-r7 now and it worked without any problems.

Now I'm installing firefox, xfce4 and all the other things I need.
Thanks to you Gentree for the tip with the older version. And thanks that you explained me how I can install an older Version of a package. That helps me to learn more about gentoo, I think.

I think you all didn't understand me right. I don't want to leave gentoo. I tested with Suse and all this other stuff 3 years ago. And I can confirm that Suse is the slowest of all distris.
I'm using gentoo more than 1 1/2 Years now and I now its advantages! No I don't want to leave gentoo!

But I simply don't understand one thing: Why do the devs mark that version of the package 'libx11' as stable when it isn't stable.? :roll:

@NeddySeagoon:
Äh. Could you please check my bug message and tell me whats wrong and what I should do better?
You are the one who speaks the better english.

That would be very nice of you!
Here's again the bug number: 143952

So thanks for all the help and support you gave me at this point!

Cu.
Kopernikus

NeddySeagoon · Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:37 pm Post subject:

Kopernikus,

The devs cannot test under all circumstamces. Things qualifiy for being marked satble when there are no open bugs and no bug reports for 30 days. Thats a 'rule of thumb' - just a guide.

Oh, there is a saying about software ... there is always one more bug, so stable does not mean bug free, just no known bugs, which is not th same thing at all.

I'll look at your bug and post a comment to if its needed, my English my be better than yours but your English is plenty good enough.

Hmm - I am not permitted to see your bug.
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Gentree · Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject:

yes I saw that earlier, my guess is he checked the "Gentoo Developers" box thinking this was needed. Not noticing the bit that said:

Leave all boxes unchecked to make this a public bug

I imagine they will take the restriction off once it gets read.

Kopernikus · Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:53 pm Post subject:

NeddySeagoon · Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:56 pm Post subject:

Gentree,

... but I qualify as a Gentoo Developer by virtue of being a forum mod.
I did loose a few posts when OTW posts were removed from the postcount, so I'm not doing too badly.
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Computer users fall into two groups:-
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