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DAharon
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 7:41 pm    Post subject: Windows required for DSL? BS Reply with quote

So I have had this particular DSL account now for about 8 months and I'm supposed to get between 1.5 and 3.0 Mbps download speeds. When I first got the account activated I actually did recieve 3 Mbps download speeds, but about 6 weeks later I was down to 1.6 Mbps and it has stayed rock solid at that speed when downloading ever since then.

I had to call SBC (now ATT) for a billing question and while I was at it I asked them to take a look at my DSL speed. The first thing they told me to do was click the start button.
"I don't have Windows", I said.
"Well, we have to check stuff like cookies and web cache, frequently that's the problem", they said.
"Forget that, what else can we check?"
"Well, there are other OS settings that cause problems for people, but since we only have information about Windows, we can't tell you where to look," says ATT/SBC.

Their little webpage speedtest didn't even work because it only works with IE.

So the question is: Is there anything in my internet configuration that could cause a problem like this? I think the answer is NO, but I want to make sure because I'm no networking expert.

It's a three year old Gentoo install. The only internet apps that I run regularly are MLdonkey, DDclient, proftpd and ntp. I don't even have iptables running right now (my chains are empty). This doesn't make any sense to me, because my neighbors are getting the full 3.0 Mbps.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The speed of your connection shouldn't depend on the system you are using. What's about your dsl-router? Did you try another one?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not currently using a router at the moment. I have been trying off and on to get my desktop to act as a wireless router for a while, but right now the DSL goes straight to the desktop and ends there.

If you mean DSL MODEM, thats a good suggestion. I do have a different model laying around here somewhere. I'll try it.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I highly doubt the problem is anything on your end.

The low-level protocols don't give a rat's ass which operating system you're running. But ISPs do, so they can sell you "virus protection" packages and other crap.

You can try replacing the DSL modem, but I don't think that will help. ISPs like to give out crappy modems, but I've generally found that they either work or they don't; if a modem is a piece of junk, it is more likely to just die than suffer diminished performance.

It is most likely something on their end, or a problem with their service. Many ISPs advertise their bandwidth numbers as "up to" a certain value; I've learned to just stick with the middle-ground service (~1.5 Mbps), as the "faster" options generally are not much faster...

By the way, the things they have you do for troubleshooting are absolutely ridiculous. I worked in Windows I.T. for several years, and I've never deleted cookies or browser cache to improve performance. Spyware, maybe... unless something is eating CPU clock cycles or moving data over your network connection, it's not going to magically make your ISP connection slower.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, as suspected the other modem didn't yield any results. It just pisses me off.
If I didn't hate the cable company only a little more than the phone company, I'd switch.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would recommend against people trying other "non-company" modems. (or at least be careful)

The ISP where I live, bans your account when they notice a different modem MAC address than the one they have registered.
Sucks too because I just bought a Cisco uBR924 cable modem/router off eBay and can't use it now.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shouldn't the Cisco let you override the MAC? I know most cable modems do.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkeh wrote:
Shouldn't the Cisco let you override the MAC? I know most cable modems do.

Yes, but at this point its not worth the effort.
I already passed the Cisco course I was taking and my ISP no longer gives a discount for using your own modem.
(I'd give it away for free if someone was willing to pay the shipping. :wink: )

I just wanted to warn users out there.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Call and confirm what service plan you are on. More likely to be a beaurocratic error than anything else.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

davidgurvich wrote:
Call and confirm what service plan you are on. More likely to be a beaurocratic error than anything else.


Perhaps true, but beaurocratic errors are often the most difficult to solve.

Recently, my DSL service stopped functioning. I called the technical support, and they apparently had an incorrect social security number on file, so they couldn't verify my identity and refused to give me support. I had to drive to their headquarters to present them with a photo ID and have them update my SSN and fix my service. The problem with my service? A mysteriously missing username/password entry in a database.

These companies are all jokes. Go ahead and call them, but I personally wouldn't expect much.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GetCool wrote:
davidgurvich wrote:
Call and confirm what service plan you are on. More likely to be a beaurocratic error than anything else.


Perhaps true, but beaurocratic errors are often the most difficult to solve.

Recently, my DSL service stopped functioning. I called the technical support, and they apparently had an incorrect social security number on file, so they couldn't verify my identity and refused to give me support. I had to drive to their headquarters to present them with a photo ID and have them update my SSN and fix my service. The problem with my service? A mysteriously missing username/password entry in a database.

These companies are all jokes. Go ahead and call them, but I personally wouldn't expect much.

ISP are notoriously bad.

I have two customers in the last week that finally convinced our local ISP to come check their connections. Of course the problem ending up being the ISP's hardware, which is what I told my customers over a month ago.

The ISP refused to come check the line and kept saying things like: "everything looks fine in the tests we are doing, it must be your computer. Maybe try a clean install."

Ridiculous. A re-install to fix a ISP hardware problem.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been using the
Quote:
Yes, I've pressed the 'Start' button
Ok, now I'm rebooting
.................
Ok it's booted up and loading the screen
.................
I still don't see the problem
method to get around the 'Windows Only' mentality.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

davidgurvich wrote:
I've been using the
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Yes, I've pressed the 'Start' button
Ok, now I'm rebooting
.................
Ok it's booted up and loading the screen
.................
I still don't see the problem
method to get around the 'Windows Only' mentality.

:lol:

I know what you mean. I actually keep an older laptop stored away that I can pull out if the ISP tech ever needs to come so the person can spin their wheels on that before looking at the real issue.
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