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brazzmonkey Guru
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 372 Location: between keyboard and chair
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:13 am Post subject: Gentoo project in trouble ?? |
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what's all this fuss ?
Distrowatch weekly newsletter Quote: | Is the Gentoo Project in trouble? Recently, signs of dissatisfaction with the way things are done at Gentoo have started appearing with increasing regularity. Jochen Maes in Leaving Gentoo: "Today I resigned from my beloved project Gentoo." The author quotes lack of respect and trust from other Gentoo developers, ongoing power struggles, and frequent signs of disregarding Gentoo policies as the main reasons for his decision. Joshua Jackson in State of affairs: "...the fact that working on Gentoo has not been as much fun as it has in the past has made me consider retiring." The author also reveals that a growing number of Gentoo developers now consider leaving the project. What's going on? Are these examples just isolated incidents or is the popular source-based distribution going through the toughest period in its existence? If you are a Gentoo developer reading this page, please share your views in the forum below.
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arkanoid Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 107 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:37 am Post subject: |
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Just the random fuss that appears every once in a while.
One of the devs, kloeri, made a blog post about it: http://kloeri.livejournal.com/1305.html |
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brazzmonkey Guru
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 372 Location: between keyboard and chair
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:50 am Post subject: |
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alrighty then. nothing to worry about, i hope.
maybe i should just stop wasting my time browsing distrowatch... |
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Yaztromo n00b
Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 11
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:36 am Post subject: |
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http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20050411-newsletter.xml
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This week's special is SeJo, known in real life as Jochen Maes, one of our Belgian developers (living in Leuven at the moment). He fills many roles in Gentoo: Developer relations, Gentoo/Java recruiter, Java/PPC lead, GLSA padawan, PPC security liaison (together with hansmi). His Gentoo-work is, obviously, recruiting, drafting GLSA, working on Java ebuilds, stable marking security bugs and general bugsquatting. Asked what he considers to be the biggest OpenSource Project that lives, he points to himself -- albeit that statement leaves his audience wondering under what conditions the source code is made available.
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Shame for him to go though. Will the project be hindered much by his leaving? |
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brazzmonkey Guru
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:51 am Post subject: |
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maybe these were too many tasks for a single person... |
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clintpatty Apprentice
Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Posts: 173 Location: Alabama
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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It must be that graphical installer that's got everyone upset. |
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Genone Retired Dev
Joined: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 9530 Location: beyond the rim
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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The report is a bit exagerated. While there are more people leaving/complaining the explanation is rather simple:
more people total => more people being disappointed => more people complaining/leaving |
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circus-killer n00b
Joined: 05 Jun 2006 Posts: 67 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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they stated one member by fact. oh no! a developer! what are we going to do?!?!? its the end of larry as we know it!
sounds like this ONE developer thought a lot about himself, if he thinks himself leaving is gonna ruin gentoo. someone needs to pop his ego.
i have faith.
GENTOO FOREVER! _________________ Get the f*ck outta here if you ain't down with the clown!
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curtis119 Bodhisattva
Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 2160 Location: Toledo, Ohio,USA, North America, Earth, SOL System, Milky Way, The Universe, The Cosmos, and Beyond.
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:46 am Post subject: |
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Actually, sejo didn't leave. He thought about it and decided to stay. And I'm very glad he did, he is a very good asset to the Gentoo Community. _________________ Gentoo: it's like wiping your ass with silk. |
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circus-killer n00b
Joined: 05 Jun 2006 Posts: 67 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 5:48 am Post subject: |
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well, its great that he stayed. and i dont deny how important he is. i was just saying that gentoo wouldnt fall apart without him. _________________ Get the f*ck outta here if you ain't down with the clown!
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curtis119 Bodhisattva
Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 2160 Location: Toledo, Ohio,USA, North America, Earth, SOL System, Milky Way, The Universe, The Cosmos, and Beyond.
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:23 am Post subject: |
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circus-killer wrote: | well, its great that he stayed. and i dont deny how important he is. i was just saying that gentoo wouldnt fall apart without him. |
Of course not, no one developer is that important (well, maybe vapier) but to see any of those ones leave is always sad. Especially when it's someone you know first hand is commiting a lot of their personal time and doing such an excellent job. _________________ Gentoo: it's like wiping your ass with silk. |
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tsunam Retired Dev
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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Naturally of course, as with all media I was quoted in part of what the entire musings were about. Oh well, what can I do *shrugs*. Gentoo will continue as long as people in the community care enough to take it up and work on it. _________________ I'm not afraid of happy endings, just afraid my life wont work that way. |
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