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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:22 am    Post subject: 2 OS 1 time Reply with quote

how can I operate 2 OS the same time?
I have 2 partitions.
The first : Gentoo Linux.
The second : Windows XP (The WinXP is already installd in a different partition not a img disk).
how can I operate both of them the same time?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You mean somthing like vmware or qemu ?

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO:_Qemu

The speed is not even the best, but it´s working with almost every OS you´ll need.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No VMWare & Qemu has a Virtual Disk.
And I need something without that (duel boot without a Virtual Disk).
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your best bet is to use Xen.

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/

It won't work with windows because M$ prevented it :roll:
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not sure I know what you mean virtual disk. You can certainly boot directly off your partition with qemu.

Code:

qemu -hda /dev/hda


or whatever drive windows is on. Of course, you need write permissions for that to work. I do it all the time.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I do this command
Code:
qemu -hda /dev/hda

Grub shows up, then I run Windows XP, & I have a black screen.


When I do this command
Code:
qemu -hda /dev/hda1

It gives me
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Booting from Hard Disk...

And it freezes...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wolf_99 wrote:
When I do this command
Code:
qemu -hda /dev/hda

Grub shows up, then I run Windows XP, & I have a black screen.


When I do this command
Code:
qemu -hda /dev/hda1

It gives me
Quote:
Booting from Hard Disk...

And it freezes...

That is because your Windows XP install has a kernel for your specific processor optimized. QEMU only emulates something like a Pentium 1 or 2, so it can't boot that Windows.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what do I do?
Any suggestions?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wolf_99 wrote:
So what do I do?
Any suggestions?

It's just not possible if you want to be able to boot windows in qemu and normal.

Try colinux in windows.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No! I don't need Windows!!!
I neet the Games!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wolf_99 wrote:
No! I don't need Windows!!!
I neet the Games!

Do they work in WINE or Cedega? Windows emulated in qemu or VMware won't have the 3D acceleration support necessary to play many modern games.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:36 pm    Post subject: Re: 2 OS 1 time Reply with quote

Hi, @

wolf_99 wrote:
how can I operate 2 OS the same time?
(The WinXP is already installd in a different partition not a img disk).
how can I operate both of them the same time?

EEPS wrote:

You can certainly boot directly off your partition with qemu.

WinXP from an important partition to use is a bad idea because the "hardware" is different.

The "qemu hardware" is only:
Code:

- IDE-Controller with 4 IDE diskks (Diskimages)
- fd0
- CDROM
- Soundblaster 16 Soundkarte (aternativ ES1370)
- Cirrus Logic Grafikkarte 5446 PCI (alternativ VESA-VGA)
- Standard PS2 Rad-Maus
- Realtek RTL 8029(AS) PCI Ethernet
- serielle Schnittstelle (COM 1)
- Parallelport (LPT 1)
- USB-UHCI (Intel SB82371)
- Gameport Joystick


So, if you wont to use WinXp from your "very importand never crash partition" you have to deal with 2 differend hardwareprofiles. Thats not easy. The crash is a question of time.

It's easy to make a .img with qemu. Look here.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cedega is not working, I don't know how to work with it...
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Welcome to Cedega!
Before you can play any games, you will need to install a version of Cedega.
Please use the TransGaming menu to do so.

And I don't have an account...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The correct procedure for installing Cedega on Gentoo is to acquire the tarball (Cedega is a non-free fork of WINE), place it in /usr/portage/distfiles, and "emerge cedega". Otherwise "emerge wine" will install the free version. Depending on what games you want to run, the free version may be adequate.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What file do I put in the portage?
from where do I download it?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The file will be named cedega-small-5.0.1.tgz and you have to purchase that from transgaming.

emerge tells you enough

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med eff # emerge cedega
Calculating dependencies ...done!
>>> emerge (1 of 1) app-emulation/cedega-5.0.1 to /
!!! cedega-small-5.0.1.tgz not found in /usr/portage/distfiles

!!! app-emulation/cedega-5.0.1 has fetch restriction turned on.
!!! This probably means that this ebuild's files must be downloaded
!!! manually.  See the comments in the ebuild for more information.

 * Please download the appropriate Cedega archive (cedega-small-5.0.1.tgz)
 * from http://www.transgaming.com/ (requires a Transgaming subscription)
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 * Then put the file in /usr/portage/distfiles
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I put the large package not the small...
But stil I need to register, and it is non-free...
can anybody help me with that?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Registration seems to be necessary for online updates. If you don't have always-on Internet access or the online updating doesn't work, get "cedega-small-5.0.1.tgz", emerge cedega, run "cedega", and pick "install local update" from the transgaming menu. The update file is called "cedega-engine-5.0-1.i386.cpkg".
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

O.k I succeeded to unstall & play a game!
But whan I turn off the game I can't turn it on again, and I need to start everything from the beginning without saveing.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the game is behaving differently in Cedega than Windows, the transgaming site might offer some help.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The game works fine, but when I add a game I need to do install. This adds a shortcut which, suposedly, enables me to run the game by just pressing play. But the play button dosn't work and I need to "install" the game again the next time I want to play it.
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