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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 7:56 am Post subject: |
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modal wrote: | Quote: | If you're using modules, remember that the modutils package no longer works with the 2.5 kernels. To be able to use modules, you need to install the module-init-tools package (yes, it's masked). If you don't do this all modules will fail to load. |
I've been wondering why I can never get any modules to work with development-sources...i'm an idiot...yeah! |
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge module-init-tools (or something like that) is needed because the module loader interface has been replaced in 2.5... I don't really like modules, so I don't compile much in as modules anymore (I wish everything was modules, but the idea put forth by Alan to make a ramdisk with all modules in it was discarded, making hard compiled stuff a thing of the past - The current model doesn't really work for me all that well)
There has been a lot of module breakage over the interface change, and the stuff Ben did regarding AIO (asyncronous IO). But thing seems to have settled down now |
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 9:31 am Post subject: |
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Just wondering, has anyone else been having clock scew problems under 2.5.65? I left my computer on all day and it was 2 hours fast when I got home. |
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 11:49 am Post subject: |
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klimg wrote: | Doesn't mount reiser and xfree doesn't work neither does the sis900 eth.Framebuffersupport for sis fails to compile.Looks like this is going to be a little project. ![Shocked 8O](images/smiles/icon_eek.gif) |
Humm... Evidently XFree works for other people, so I might just be lucky. But if ReiserFS v3 is broken, I can't mount my root fs. Ah well. Can't know without experimenting. _________________ <laurentius> gentoo linux?
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 11:56 am Post subject: |
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paulisdead wrote: | Just wondering, has anyone else been having clock scew problems under 2.5.65? I left my computer on all day and it was 2 hours fast when I got home. |
I'm using 2.5.64 with the ingo-linus-patch. My clock was off by 2 or 3 hours also (if i remember correctly, it was 2 hours EXACTLY). Maybe there is some hassle with the timezones or something. Also I must point out that the ntpd (the "time" daemon) was running, so it might also be related to that. _________________ How are you gentlemen!! All your base are belong to us. You are on the way to destruction. You have no chance to survive make your time. Ha ha ha ha .... |
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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paulisdead wrote: | Just wondering, has anyone else been having clock scew problems under 2.5.65? I left my computer on all day and it was 2 hours fast when I got home. |
ntp... it's rocking |
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Does it still cause mplayer movies to halt after awhile? And was it in mm1 or mm2 the cpu starvation in the lingo interactivity patch was fixed? That patch alone I'd like to get my hands on if possible.
They seem to have focused too much with xine as test example (andrew morton apparently use it) so mplayer now frameskips for some reason, but Totem doesn't work with NPTL so I'm kinda stuck with mplayer until the kernel or mplayer are fixed or someone tell me how to fix (.64 had no problems). |
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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Lovechild wrote: | paulisdead wrote: | Just wondering, has anyone else been having clock scew problems under 2.5.65? I left my computer on all day and it was 2 hours fast when I got home. |
ntp... it's rocking |
Here's a good how-to for setting up ntp courtesy of our very own forums. _________________ Want Free games?
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Lovechild wrote: | LWM2 is in (as I recall), but Linus and Alan didn't like EVMS so that is being rewritten to use the md and lwm interface so to work with 2.5, but it will not appear in the 2.5 kernel (nor in 2.6) - if it was to go in it would have to wait untill kernel 2.7.
www.kernelnewbies.org has a status list of all major changes in the kernel and when they have been included, or when they are scheduled to go in (some are pre 2.6 some are post 2.6). | You're right; thanks. Actually I found this link to be really helpful; it's about what you can expect from a 2.5.x kernel, and is up to date (as of 2.5.65). It looks like LVM2, which is backwards compatible with LVM1's format, is in, so I'll give the 2.5 series a shot once I convert my volumes. _________________ Man must shape his tools lest they shape him. |
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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I got most of my problems ironed out, but one I cant fix is that my NIC wont ping anything apart from itself, eth0 comes up fine I just cant reach anything. I have a tulip based card
Code: | 00:08.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 model NC100 (rev 11) |
in the kernel config I said Y to "DECchip Tulip (dc2114x) PCI support"
I also tried the "Generic DECchip & DIGITAL EtherWORK PCI/EISA" but that failed with my card. So I have selected the correct option but its borked somewhere... ifconfig output looks fine also.
Any ideas anyone? _________________ a.k.a port001
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know about your ethernet problem, but I am also have some problems with my network card. The via-rhine module won't compile at all and complains about unresolved symbols.
Does anyone know what I should do to solve this? I really want to try a development kernel. I emerged the straight 2.5.65 development kernel. |
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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OK... I managed to get 2.5 running. It took some figuring out to get EVMS to work under 2.5 (my root filesystem is under EVMS, so I need an initrd image for volume discovery). However...
- my root filesystem, which is ReiserFS v3, wouldn't mount read-write. Both /proc/mounts and /etc/mtab claimed it was mounted read-write, and IIRC trying to remount it resulted in a message telling that / wasn't mounted.
- iptables-load didn't appear to work
- startx didn't do a thing (I didn't check whether it went into an infinite loop or something else, though)
- and a great many other things were broken... something about the RTC device, something about something or something other, etc...
So... I think I'll wait a couple of months for things to get fixed before I try a 2.5 kernel again . _________________ <laurentius> gentoo linux?
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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i'm using lvm2 with 2.5.64 right now (and just compiling 2.5.65-mm1
you need the lvm2 and device-mapper tools from the lvm main site (sinista?). Both are aviable as anon-cvs and they work fine here. only the gentoo-init scripts need some love bc they check for /proc/lvm which does not exsist anymore in the 2.5 kernels ... |
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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I found the error "ds: no socket drivers loaded!" in my dmesg output, I'm pretty sure its the cause of my problem, but google doesnt offer any solutions ![Sad :(](images/smiles/icon_sad.gif) _________________ a.k.a port001
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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No socket drivers loaded? IANA kernel developer, but the first thing I'd look at is Networking support -> Networking options -> TCP/IP Networking. _________________ <laurentius> gentoo linux?
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Just thought to document some stuff to get vmware running. Vmware out of the box will not work on 2.5.65. The reason for this is twofold-
1. modversions.h is no longer supported nor is needed. So you should untar vmmon.tar and vmnet.tar in the /opt/vmware/lib/modules/source directory, and in the source files remove all references to modversions.h or better yet condition these with the kernel version.
2. The socket structure has changed in 2.5.65. So in order to build vmnet, edit bridge.c in the vmnet-only directory and at line 619, change the code from
bridge->sk->dead = 1;
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bridge->sk->flags |= SOCK_DEAD;
These changes are for vmware workstations 3.2 only.
The best way to make these changes is to change the files in the vmmon-only and vmnet-only directory and then create new tar files vmmon.tar and vmnet.tar and then use the config script to build these. That way you can keep up with newer kernels.
With this vmware works and runs fast. The performance is much better, I believe because of the new scheduler patches.
A big problem with these changes is that they change vmware such that they it will no longer work with version 2.4.xx of the kernel, as well as older 2.5 kernels i.e. before 2.5.65. So keep copies of the old binary builds of the modules just in case or condition the changes with the kernel versions.
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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I was having that problem with vmware ....!
thank you narensankar ill give it a try! _________________ contact me -> azote@mail.i2p
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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aswell as my net problem, i cant get X to behave.
I installed module-init-tools, remerged the nvidia drivers, ran modprobe nvidia (It doesnt give the tainted warning btw, not sure if this means anything) and then ran opengl-update nvidia. startx loads, the screen goes black and I get a corrupt yellow fuzzy scratches at the bottom of the screen - the system also hard locks.
I'm using 2.5.65-mm2 btw - I dont think I missed anything... ![Confused :?](images/smiles/icon_confused.gif) _________________ a.k.a port001
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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I just installed it and it seemed to work fine except it has not dri. I haven't tried to much since I barely got dri working in 2.4.20. I have a radeon compiled as a module.
glxinfo gives Code: | name of display: :0.0
display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: No
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
client glx vendor string: SGI
client glx version string: 1.2
client glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
GLX extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
OpenGL vendor string: VA Linux Systems, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.2 Mesa 3.4.2
OpenGL extensions:
GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_blend_color,
GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract
glu version: 1.3
glu extensions:
GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess
visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav
id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat
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0x23 24 tc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None
0x24 24 tc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 8 16 16 16 0 0 0 None
0x25 24 dc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None
0x26 24 dc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 8 16 16 16 0 0 0 None
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lsmod gives: Code: | Module Size Used by
radeon 107096 0
agpgart 15400 0
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port001 wrote: | aswell as my net problem, i cant get X to behave.
I installed module-init-tools, remerged the nvidia drivers, ran modprobe nvidia (It doesnt give the tainted warning btw, not sure if this means anything) and then ran opengl-update nvidia. startx loads, the screen goes black and I get a corrupt yellow fuzzy scratches at the bottom of the screen - the system also hard locks.
I'm using 2.5.65-mm2 btw - I dont think I missed anything... ![Confused :?](images/smiles/icon_confused.gif) |
What kind of processor do you have? If you have an AMD processor, and you're using the mem=nopentium kernel parameter, you need to upgrade to Xfree 4.3. I have such a system, and Xfree 4.2.1 wouldn't start with nopentium. I've heard of other people having the same problem, as well. _________________ Anyone who attributes a quote to themself is a pompous fool.
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:26 am Post subject: |
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I'm so excited for the 2.6 kernel to be released, 2.5.65 has been good to me so far. It is soooo f*ing fast. I really had no clue. They should have a song released along with 2.6, just like OpenBSD does. |
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I have had a few issues with the 2.5 kernels which have prevented me from using them. I was hoping that someone here could help me with these before I give the new kernel another shot. The main issue is with the pcmcia-cs and hotplug packages:
The pcmcia-cs package appears to be compatible with the 2.5 kernel in the documentation. However, whenever I try to compile it while running the 2.5 kernel it would always give me an error message. I don't have the message handy, but I was wondering if anyone has had success with the pcmcia-cs package and the new 2.5 kernels.
The hotplug package seems to simply not be compatible with the 2.5 kernels. Supposedly the new kernel has a completely new kernel loading system...and hotplug does not seem to be compatible with it. I use hotplug mainly for USB devices. Does anyone know how to get hotplug working (or whether this package is even needed), and how USB hotplugging should be set up in this new kernel? Thanks
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I get random crashes (big kernel OOPSes), but most of the time, it works perfectly for me, and fast!
Ussually something X related causes the crashing (e.g. emacs)... I don't know why... |
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2003 8:35 am Post subject: Awesome! |
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I've just upgraded from 2.5.64-ingo-linus.patch to 2.5.65, and I should tell you, it's absolutely beautiful! Everything that I use works well, and dragging windows under KDE has finally improved to Windoze-comparable performance! ![Twisted Evil :twisted:](images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif) |
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2003 9:28 am Post subject: Re: Awesome! |
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daen1543 wrote: | I've just upgraded from 2.5.64-ingo-linus.patch to 2.5.65, and I should tell you, it's absolutely beautiful! Everything that I use works well, and dragging windows under KDE has finally improved to Windoze-comparable performance! ![Twisted Evil :twisted:](images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif) |
Errrr, doesn't the 2.5.64-ingo-linus.patch have the same performance as 2.5.65? They have the same timeslices, scheduler, etc. Or do you mean that the better performance you experience is in comparison to a 2.4.* kernel? ![Confused :?](images/smiles/icon_confused.gif) _________________ How are you gentlemen!! All your base are belong to us. You are on the way to destruction. You have no chance to survive make your time. Ha ha ha ha .... |
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