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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it think genious minds think alike, i make a fetch.sh scrip for everytihing i would need and i run it while portage and stage 3 tarballs were extracting, then i changed the second script and named it 1.5 -) what that did was compile gcc 344 and then recompile gcc344, then after i was running 344 (or went on and got gcc 402) i would emerge all the sys utilis i would need reiser4progs dhcpcd grub nitro-sources then compile the kernel abd run grub, set conf.d/ settings, reboot and reedit the second scrpt to where it does emerge -e system
worked for me
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm exploring stable CFLAGS for GCC4, I'd love to see your make.conf, so far here's what I got, that's proven stable
CFLAGS="-O2 -march=<arch> -mtune=<arch> -fomit-frame-pointer -ftracer -pipe"
CXXFLAGS="$CFLAGS, -fvisibility-inlines-hidden


i changes my make.conf to what you suggsted working fine right now before i had
[code]CFLAGS="-O2 -march=<arch> -mtune<arch> -ffastmath -fomit-frame-pointer -ftracer -pipe"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"

in your example above is CXXFLAGS="$CFLAGS, -fvisibility-inlines-hidden supposed to be CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}, -fvisibility-inlines-hidden ??
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i got emerge -e system done without a hitch, and i even compiled xorg anf firefox so i could use a browser and even when i was compiling in the background firefox loaded in about 2 seconds man its fast. the problem im having is when compiling kde apps (so far all kde apps) right now i tried juk-3.5.0_beta2 (maybe because its 3.5.0_beta2?) but i get the same error every time durring the configure steps. i cant quote the error but ill sum it up

Checking if C++ programs can be compiled ...... no
check config.log (its in /var/tmp/juk**) then it goes on saying i might need libstdcc++-dev ( i searched portage nothing for a -dev version) i have libstdcc++-v3 3.3.6 installed i even remerged it. so i did a little research and now i think it might be glibc so im remerging it (if libstdc++-v3 is slotted im going to install 3.44) im also compiling gcc 3.4.4 with gcc 4.0.2 ;) so i can switch to it when things dont compile. if i have to i will compile kde with 3.4.4. any siggestions let me know, also cheater1034 im using your make.conf-2, i dont think thats the problem though. i commete oout the ldflags for all of this seems a bit to mich tweaking with those so im going conseritave.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kde 3.5.0_beta2 compile errors hmm.

I can't say I compiled KDE 3.5.0_beta2, but I do compile GNOME 2.12.1 without an error, also the make.conf SHOULD BE the following for assured stability, I mentioned previously -mtune, drop -mtune for gcc4, and no -ffast-math, I hear it breaks a lot of systems and can be unstable, also the make.conf has the wrong flag for it, it shouldn't be -ffastmath it should be -ffast-math

CFLAGS="-O2 -march=arch -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"
CXXFLAGS="$CFLAGS -fvisibility-inlines-hidden"

(NOTE:) --ffast-math has to do with C++ I believe, also -fvisibility-inlines-hidden is supposed to make c++ code faster or something.

So try removing obserb compile flags, make it 100% stable, and you can also visit the stable CFLAGS wiki at gentoo-wiki.com to get an idea on some stable CFLAGS.

I'm about to re-execute the GCC 4 script, I will let you know this evening, how emerge -e system went.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got it working =), using 4.0.2 with your make.con to build kde 3.5.0 beta, so i figured i will emerge gcc 3.4.4 and then try it with 3.4.4 so i did. then i got a idea to try again with 3.4.4 install ed but USING 4.0.2. my by im crazy but i think keeping 3.4.4 installed fixed it. i think its a good idea to keep it installed anyways, im going to make a script to switch make.conf and change the compiler to the version i want to use, but im going to have to use different make.conf's for 3.4.4 and 4.0.2, 4.0.2 just isnt as tweakable as 3.4.4 (yet ;p)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

heres how i would do it

script one the same but... i had it wget the stage and portage tarballs
Code:

#!/bin/bash
echo "-----"
echo "Install Script (Part 1)........."
echo "-----"
echo "Make sure your filesystems are properly mounted and your network is properly configured"
echo "-----"
cd /mnt/gentoo
echo "Downloading i686 Stage3 Tarball and Latest Portage Snapshot From gentoo.osuosl.org"
wget http://gentoo.osuosl.org/releases/x86/2005.1/stages/i686/stage3-i686-2005.1.tar.bz2
wget http://gentoo.osuosl.org/snapshots/portage-latest.tar.bz2
echo "Done!"
echo "Extracting Stage3 i686 Tarball"
echo "...Depending on your system, this may take awhile"
tar jxvf stage3-i686-2005.1.tar.bz2
echo "...Done
echo "Extacting portage snapshot to usr/portage"
echo "...This can take quite some time"
tar jxvf portage-latest.tar.bz2 -C /mnt/gentoo/usr
echo "...Done!"
echo "Deleting Stage3 Tarball and Portage Tarball..."
rm portage-latest.tar.bz2 && rm stage3-*
echo "Done!"
echo "Copying Mounts, mounting proc, and chrooting"
echo "When done, execute second script"
cp -L /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf
mount -t proc none /mnt/gentoo/proc
cp /proc/mounts /mnt/gentoo/etc/mtab
chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
############################

now we emerge gcc 3.4.4 and all the system utils to get a running system barebones with a 3.3.5 tarball running reiser4 and nitro-sources
Code:

#!/bin/bash
echo "install script (Part2)........."
echo "-----"
echo "Make sure you are correctly chrooted before continuing"
echo "-----"
env-update && source /etc/profile
echo "Editing make.conf"
rm /etc/make.conf
wget http://bfgraphics.net/conrad/i686/make.conf-1
mv make.conf-1 /etc/make.conf
mkdir -p /var/log/portage
mkdir -p /usr/local/portage
echo "The portage overlay directory is configured to, /usr/local/portage"
echo "The mirrors are set to default, use mirrorselect to change"
echo "Done!"
echo "Editing package.keywords"
rm /etc/portage/package.keywords
wget http://bfgraphics.net/conrad/package.keywords
mv package.keywords /etc/portage
echo "Done!"
echo "Updating the portage tree"
emerge sync
echo sys-devel/libperl ithreads >> /etc/portage/package.use
echo dev-lang/perl ithreads >> /etc/portage/package.use
echo sys-libs/glibc userlocales >> /etc/portage/package.use
echo "......"
echo "To save a little build time"
echo "edit /etc/locales.build according to your country/region"
echo "......"
echo "Building the new toolkit"
echo "binutils 2.16, glibc 2.3.5, gcc 3.4.4"
echo "This will take awhile"
env-update && source /etc/profile
emerge gcc-config glibc binutils libstdc++-v3 gcc
echo "Done!"
echo "Updating make.conf (Highly Optmized for i686)"
rm /etc/make.conf
wget http://bfgraphics.net/conrad/i686/make.conf-2
mv make.conf-2 /etc/make.conf
echo "Done!"
echo "Setting GCC 3.4.4 To the default compiler/Pruning GCC 3.3.5"
gcc-config 6
emerge -P gcc
env-update && source /etc/profile
rm /etc/env.d/gcc/config
ln -s /etc/env.d/gcc/config-i686-pc-linux-gnu /etc/env.d/gcc/config
echo "Done!"
echo "Rebuilding the toolkit with GCC 3.4.4"
echo "This will take some time"
emerge glibc binutils libstdc++-v3 gcc portage
echo "Done!"
echo "Emerging Programs"
emerge ccache syslog-ng xinetd vixie-cron reiser4progs sysfsutils hotplug coldplug gentoolkit acpid
emerge --nodeps livecd-tools
echo "Done!"
echo "Adding programs to the default runlevel"
rc-update add acpid default
rc-update add net.eth0 default
rc-update add syslog-ng default
rc-update add xinetd default
rc-update add hotplug default
rc-update add coldplug default
rc-update add syslog-ng default
rc-update add autoconfig default
rc-update add numlock default
rc-update add hostname default
rc-update add domainname default
echo "Done!"
echo "i686 Gentoo Install Script Finished!"
#########################################

now i would have a script to setup acidsources for emerging it would go like this
Code:

#!/bin/bash
echo "install script (Part3)........."
echo "Get ready you Compile Your Kernel"
wget http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uyavl/public/acid-sources/2.6.14-acid2/acid-sources-2.6.14-r2.ebuild
mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/sys-kernel/acid-sources
mv acid-sources-2.6.14-r2.ebuild /usr/local/portage/sys-kernel/acid-sources
ebuild /usr/local/portage/sys-kernel/acid-sources/acid-sources-2.6.14-r2.ebuild digest
echo sys-kernel/acid-sources ~x86 >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
emerge acid-sources
cd /usr/src/linux
make menuconfig
echo "Install the kernel and grub make sure /boot is mounted"
####################################

now make the kernel and install all modules and configure grub
Code:

#!/bin/bash
echo "install script (Part4)........."
echo "Compiling the Kernel and copying it to /boot/kernel-2.6.14-nitro1 (if you want to use initram to load a fbsplash edit this script accordingly)
echo "!!!!!!!!!!!if you use seperate boot partition make sure /boot is mounted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!""
cd /usr/src/linux/
make
make modules_install
cp /arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/kernel-2.6.14-nitro1
echo sys-boot/grub ~x86 >> /ect/portage/package.keywords
emerge grub
echo "now setup grub by grub <grub:> root (hd0,1) # boot partition <grub:> setup (hd0) <grub:>quit
edit /boot/grub/grub.conf /etc/fstab /etc/conf.d/net (if you use dhcp emerge dhcpcd) /ect/conf.d/hostname /ect/conf.d/domainname to the defaults"
echo "when done reboot and continue on to emerge gcc4"
#####################################

all i did here was remove all the rc-update scripts as you should be booted to the harddisk now and all of that was taken care of when you did the gcc 3.4.4 step. i also commeted out emerge -P gcc im keeping 3.4.4 on my system so i can fall back to it when i need to.
Code:

#!/bin/bash
echo "install script (Part5)........."
echo "-----"
echo "Make sure you are correctly chrooted before continuing"
echo "-----"
echo "GCC 4 is being integrated into the default conrad install"
echo "It is the next major release of the GCC Compiler and considered unstable"
echo "-----"
echo "What is the point of GCC4? - GCC 3.4.4 is faster!"
echo "It is with optimized compile flags..."
echo "But here are some reasons for GCC4"
echo "New framework, based on a higher level of representation"
echo "Numerous code transfiguration such as..."
echo "* Scalar replacement of aggregates"
echo "* Constant Propogation"
echo "* Value range propogation"
echo "* Partial Redundancy elimination"
echo "* Load and store motion"
echo "* Strength reduction"
echo "* Dead store elimination"
echo "* Dead and unreacable code elimination"
echo "* Autovectorization"
echo "* Loop interchange"
echo "* Tail recursion by accumulation"
echo "C++ Code in GCC4..."
echo "Up to 25% faster than the GCC 3.4 family"
echo "Visit gcc.gnu.org for more information about the GCC4 family"
echo "-----"
echo "Use GCC 4 at your own risk"
echo "-----"
echo "!Important!"
echo "The CONRAD GCC4 Scripts use NPTL ONLY! - there is no backup to linuxthreads"
echo "-----"
env-update && source /etc/profile
echo "Editing make.conf"
rm /etc/make.conf
wget http://bfgraphics.net/conrad/i686/make.conf-1
mv make.conf-1 /etc/make.conf
mkdir -p /var/log/portage
mkdir -p /usr/local/portage
echo "The portage overlay directory is configured to, /usr/local/portage"
echo "The mirrors are set to default, use mirrorselect to change"
echo "Done!"
echo "Unmasking packages"
rm /etc/portage/package.keywords
wget http://bfgraphics.net/conrad/gcc4/package.keywords
wget http://bfgraphics.net/conrad/gcc4/package.unmask
mv package.unmask /etc/portage
mv package.keywords /etc/portage
echo "Done!"
echo "Updating the portage tree"
emerge sync
echo sys-devel/libperl ithreads >> /etc/portage/package.use
echo dev-lang/perl ithreads >> /etc/portage/package.use
echo sys-libs/glibc nomalloccheck nptl nptlonly pic userlocales >> /etc/portage/package.use
echo sys-devel/binutils multislot >> /etc/portage/package.use
echo sys-devel/gcc multislot >> /etc/portage/package.use
echo "......"
echo "To save a little build time"
echo "edit /etc/locales.build according to your country/region"
echo "......"
echo "Building the new toolkit"
echo "This is quite different than building a GCC 3.4.4 toolkit"
echo "The toolkit will remain stable and functional when done"
echo "GCC 4 will be the ONLY compiler on the machine"
echo "This will take awhile"
env-update && source /etc/profile
emerge --inject sys-libs/glibc-20050722
emerge mpfr gcc-config binutils libstdc++-v3 gcc
binutils-config 2
emerge -P binutils
gcc-config 6
rm /etc/env.d/gcc/config
cp /etc/env.d/gcc/config-i686-pc-linux-gnu /etc/env.d/gcc/config
env-update
source /etc/profile
emerge libstdc++-v3
#emerge -P gcc
env-update
source /etc/profile
emerge glibc
echo "Done!"
echo "Updating make.conf (safe for gcc 4)"
echo "As of right now this step is not used in CONRAD GCC4 Scripts"
echo "It is best to use a stable make.conf, using very high levels"
echo "Of optimization can slow down, and destroy GCC4 code badly"
echo "By default, this script WILL NOT change the make.conf"
echo "-----"
echo "As of right now, the CONRAD gcc 3.4.4 scripts has a very powerful, optimized make.conf"
echo "A lot of CFLAGS that are known to produce high optimized code are"
echo "Depreceated in GCC4 and should NOT be used"
echo "The script with now continue"
echo ".."
echo "...."
echo "........"
# rm /etc/make.conf
# wget http://bfgraphics.net/conrad/gcc4/i686/make.conf-2
# mv make.conf-2 /etc/make.conf
echo "Done!"
env-update
source /etc/profile
echo "Rebuilding the toolkit with GCC 4"
echo "This will take some time"
emerge glibc binutils libstdc++-v3 gcc portage
echo "Done!"
echo "Building the system"
echo "This WILL take a very long time"
emerge -e system
echo "Done!"
##################################


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seren, I'm going rewrite the guide from the ground up for Ver 0.5.0

http://bfgraphics.net/conrad/0.5.0

uploads of new scripts have already begun uploading.

Tonight, I will include similar scripts to the kernel.

They will slightly differ however,
they will do basically the same things, but they will emerge splashutils and splash-themes-gentoo and by default, setup a framebuffer.

The menuconfig will be explained in the guide, not in the script of 0.5.0, the guide will also explain setting up the fbsplash for grub.

0.5.0 is only going to support GCC 4.0, but it will have support for 7 arch's - The GCC 3.4.4 scripts will stay on the mirror, but not involved in the 0.5.0 ver of the guide.

Today I spent my time experimenting with gentoo scripts, and I came up with doing this to install it faster, and better...
1. Execute the stage3/portage script 2.Acid-Sources/gensplash/grub/Kernel/Menuconfig script 3. Kernel build script 4. emerge necessary system progs (dhcpcd, etc) 5. boot 6. Execute the 0.5.0 Part2 Scripts 7. setup XORG 6.9RC ebuild 8. Gnome/KDE/gdm/xorg configuration 9. Alsa

This is roughly how they will go, My goal is to make it as DETAILED as POSSIBLE, and make it much more useful
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

glad i helped :?:

cheater1034 wrote:
Seren, I'm going rewrite the guide from the ground up for Ver 0.5.0

http://bfgraphics.net/conrad/0.5.0

uploads of new scripts have already begun uploading.

Tonight, I will include similar scripts to the kernel.

They will slightly differ however,
they will do basically the same things, but they will emerge splashutils and splash-themes-gentoo and by default, setup a framebuffer.

The menuconfig will be explained in the guide, not in the script of 0.5.0, the guide will also explain setting up the fbsplash for grub.

0.5.0 is only going to support GCC 4.0, but it will have support for 7 arch's - The GCC 3.4.4 scripts will stay on the mirror, but not involved in the 0.5.0 ver of the guide.

Today I spent my time experimenting with gentoo scripts, and I came up with doing this to install it faster, and better...
1. Execute the stage3/portage script 2.Acid-Sources/gensplash/grub/Kernel/Menuconfig script 3. Kernel build script 4. emerge necessary system progs (dhcpcd, etc) 5. boot 6. Execute the 0.5.0 Part2 Scripts 7. setup XORG 6.9RC ebuild 8. Gnome/KDE/gdm/xorg configuration 9. Alsa

This is roughly how they will go, My goal is to make it as DETAILED as POSSIBLE, and make it much more useful
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Updated guide to 0.5.0
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheater1034 wrote:
Updated guide to 0.5.0
My celeron finished. My prescott is waiting.. OMG where are you
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Revised to archck-sources-2.6.14-r1 (based on ck-patchset)

Acid has some major issues, and won't build the nvidia module, or has no fbsplash support - archck sources runs perfect here - archck is a better option.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seren any chance to find you on IRC at all?
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Free to go into #phaeronix :-)
Cheater is already there along with me and other gentoo users. small so far so we know each other

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after monday busy weekend sorry, any time name the server/channel
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after monday busy weekend sorry, any time name the server/channel
irc.freenode.net #phaeronix where me , cheater are at :)
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Acid has some major issues, and won't build the nvidia module, or has no fbsplash support


Both false.......
oh well.. :roll:
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Acid has some major issues, and won't build the nvidia module, or has no fbsplash support


Both false.......
oh well.. :roll:
LOL.. I was using acid thought it was nice
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gonna give this a shot this weekened..
wanna try reiser4 w/ gcc 4
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Acid has some major issues, and won't build the nvidia module, or has no fbsplash support


Both false.......
oh well.. :roll:


They were not false for me - The NVIDIA module failed to install, I know for a fact everything as setup correctly, it said there was a problem in the kernel source directory, and about the redhat rpm package kernel-sources.rpm :-p, so I double checked to make sure my symlink pointed correctly, and everything did.

Then in Device Drives > Graphics Support >

There was NO [] Support for the framebuffer splash option
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This was on .14-acid1, on .14-acid2 it failed to build at the initrd image.
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Any chance to see an AMD64 version, or nxsty's glibc's overlays made part of this install?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

enderandrew wrote:
Any chance to see an AMD64 version, or nxsty's glibc's overlays made part of this install?


I own an amd64, but I know far from enough to make any amd64 scripts at the moment.

I'm making an amd64 version of the livecd, however.

I give you my word for it, I'm going to explore the amd64 conrad a little bit more - And when I get around to making an AMD64 version, won't be very long from now hopefully, I want to make sure it is 100% compatible, and nxsty's glibc-overlay is a definite on any amd64 system ;)

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Also keep your eye open for the Conrad Installable LiveCD (x86 and amd64) , as of right now with Xorg 6.9_RC1/CVS, GNOME 2.12.1, GAIM, xmms, mplayer, etc, and an install script for it, in progress.
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Great work. Any chance of getting a livecd that boots up without a splash and without a framebuffer? We ATI Video Card owners get stuck loading the cd before it begins.

Specifically, when your loader attempts to change the resolution, we get locked up. Is there a way for me to just edit the grub menu on boot to stop this perhaps?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheater1034 wrote:
enderandrew wrote:
Any chance to see an AMD64 version, or nxsty's glibc's overlays made part of this install?


I own an amd64, but I know far from enough to make any amd64 scripts at the moment.

I'm making an amd64 version of the livecd, however.

I give you my word for it, I'm going to explore the amd64 conrad a little bit more - And when I get around to making an AMD64 version, won't be very long from now hopefully, I want to make sure it is 100% compatible, and nxsty's glibc-overlay is a definite on any amd64 system ;)

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Also keep your eye open for the Conrad Installable LiveCD (x86 and amd64) , as of right now with Xorg 6.9_RC1/CVS, GNOME 2.12.1, GAIM, xmms, mplayer, etc, and an install script for it, in progress.


What would happen if I took your install process, used the Stage 3 AMD64 tarball instead, and before compiling GLIBC I threw in the overlays? Then all I'd need to do is edit my make.conf to put it:
Code:
CFLAGS="-O2 -march=athlon64 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"
CXXFLAGS="$CFLAGS -fvisibility-inlines-hidden"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"


Would I really need to do anything else different?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Great work. Any chance of getting a livecd that boots up without a splash and without a framebuffer? We ATI Video Card owners get stuck loading the cd before it begins.

Specifically, when your loader attempts to change the resolution, we get locked up. Is there a way for me to just edit the grub menu on boot to stop this perhaps?

Thanks


the cd boots with grub rught, go to the first line which i think is the selection to boot to conrad, now press e to edit, change video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr,1920x1200-16@60 to say video=vesafb:off then press enter and b to boot, cheater coulc make a grub .conf that has that same line switched.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seren wrote:
-valheru- wrote:
Great work. Any chance of getting a livecd that boots up without a splash and without a framebuffer? We ATI Video Card owners get stuck loading the cd before it begins.

Specifically, when your loader attempts to change the resolution, we get locked up. Is there a way for me to just edit the grub menu on boot to stop this perhaps?

Thanks


the cd boots with grub rught, go to the first line which i think is the selection to boot to conrad, now press e to edit, change video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr,1920x1200-16@60 to say video=vesafb:off then press enter and b to boot, cheater coulc make a grub .conf that has that same line switched.


I didn't think it had splash enabled, the next release was going to have a framebuffer splash, on the next release with the conrad fbsplash, I will add the video=vesafb:off param to the NO-FB boot option, hopefully that will help you.
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