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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:23 pm    Post subject: Suggested Linux Games... Help me.. lol Reply with quote

Hi all, I'm a former windowz user and well, I used quite a few different games like Starcraft, Age of Empries, Asheron's Call (MMORPG), Command and Conquer, Typhoon Rising, Enemy-Territory...

Now I'm on linux and I play..... Enemy-Territory... anyways...
Any suggested games with decent graphics you can suggest? I personally like Strategy and FPS games...
and money, I don't want to spend it :p Thats why i came to Linux.., not to mention the stability... :-D









Btw, unrelated.. What do I do to use my WinTV card? hehe
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

armagetronad ;-)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RTS: warzone2100
darwinia (commercial)
tribaltrouble (commercial)

TBS: wesnoth

FPS: ut2004 (commercial)
doom3 (commercial)

Others: lugaru (commercial)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Legends, a tribes 2 clone.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I just switched to a hardened kernel fromthe regular gentoo-sources one.. and uhm...

nvidia drivers dont' work anymore :( so I changed back to regular nv drivers....

all my programs work except one.. Enemy-Territory *cry*
Any ideas on that or should this be in the kernel section...?


Thanks for the ideas! and btw, I hate tron :p
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Battle for Wesnoth - Strategy (free)
Globulation 2 - Strategy (free)
Alpha Centauri - Strategy (commercial)

Also check out these two liks: http://tuxgames.com/ and http://happypenguin.org
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rukie wrote:
Oh, I just switched to a hardened kernel fromthe regular gentoo-sources one.. and uhm...

nvidia drivers dont' work anymore :( so I changed back to regular nv drivers....


Did you re-emerge the NVIDIA drivers after you switched the kernel?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, nvidia-settings and nvidia-kernel
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neverwinter Nights, ut2003, ut2004, Doom3, Return to Castle Wolfenstein - These are all EXCELLENT :D games that run natively under linux... however they are commercial so unless you already own them, you'll have to dish out some $ :cry:

As far as free games go: Torcs, Wesnoth, Cube, Warsow, Supertux (some of these don't have the greatest graphics, but are loads of fun nontheless)

Also you can play some of your Winblows games under emulation (wine, cedega). I used to run Morrowind and WoW under cedega and they ran better than they ever did under Winblows natively :wink: I don't play these anymore as I got bored of Morrowind (took a LONG time, EXCELLENT game) after I beat the expansions and I stopped being a sucker and dishing out $15 a month to see "login server down" (World of Warcraft). I only buy Linux native now (Thank you Epic and Id for supporting my OS, I will continue to purchase your awesome products).

P.S. Quake4 and Serious Sam2 will also have native linux ports shortly after they come out for M$ systems ($commercial games)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok. Then I suggest you first search for a solution, then make a post in the Desktop Environments forum about your problem if you can't find any. Try to include as much relevant information as possible.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rukie,
I'm running a hardened system with no problems with the nvidia driver or games.
A few things to note, most of the programs that need OpenGL will need their MPROTECT flag disabled since the Nvidia GL libraries were not compiled with PIC (someone correct me here if I'm wrong), also, I'm on a Pentium 4 and having PAGEEXEC enabled gives a serious blow to performance, so if you have a similar setup then you should disable PAGEXEC when configueing your kernel.

For example, suppose you want to run ET. then you need to disable MPROTECT, and since ET was not compiled by you (thus its not compiled with PIC) you will need to use the chpax utililty to disable the MPROTECT flag (otherwise, if you compiled the app with PIC you can you paxctl).
Code:

chpax -m /opt/enemy-territory/et.x86


Let me know if this works for you or not.

Btw, you did recompile your whole system when you switched to a hardened profile right?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BlackEdder wrote:

Others: lugaru (commercial)


I just tried out the demo for this game (I had never heard of it until I read this post). Good stuff! 8)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I currently have no pax/grsec related options enabled, no rsbac optoins installed, and no selinux options because I'm on a reiser 3.4 filesystem

Also, after I switched to this kernel I had some major trouble with in future modification times n such.. ran a make clean and remade everything, from a livecd boot...

then I ran an emerge -e and I believe pic is enabled in my use flags..
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rukie wrote:
Yes, nvidia-settings and nvidia-kernel


What about nvidia-glx?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

forgot about that one..
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rukie wrote:
... so I changed back to regular nv drivers....


Did you switch to "nv" or to "nvidia"?
In order to use the proprietary driver that will allow you to use 3D to its fullest extent, you need the "nvidia" driver...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nv, not nvidia. I reset my xorg.conf file to nvidia after reemerging nvidia-glx but I'm also doing schoolwork.. so I dont' want to crash this before I print out my stuff :-D

Currently (before changes) they reason why ET doesn' twork is unkown to me, basically the system locks up... i get a black screen, then it shows me the desktop again, but I can't click on anything or.. do anything, I can't even control alt backspace out of x11..

Edit: I also noticed quicktime4linux and xzgv will not emerge.... compile error---but it doesn't give the reason why there's an error! lol
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what nvidia drivers where you using ? For whatever reason I always had trouble with the 6629 drivers (I dunno why these are STILL the latest drivers marked stable). Once I switched to the latest drivers (originally 7667, then 7676) by unmasking them I never had any problems. This could be just an amd 64 issue for me tho.
, anyways the 7676 drivers kick <donkey behind>.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Games I play are:

crack-attack
xbubble
flobopuyo
warsow (http://www.warsow.net)

I also played through Half Life 1 and Deus Ex 1 under wine and thoroughly enjoyed them both.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, how do I unmask the nvidia drivers? (not inpackage.mask)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sirdilznik wrote:
I just tried out the demo for this game (I had never heard of it until I read this post). Good stuff! 8)


Yes lugaru is a little gem :) I especially like to try it all in sneak-mode
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rukie wrote:
Hmm, how do I unmask the nvidia drivers? (not inpackage.mask)


echo "=media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.7676" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
echo "=media/video/nvidia-glx-1.0.7676-r1" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rukie wrote:
Oh, I just switched to a hardened kernel fromthe regular gentoo-sources one.. and uhm...

nvidia drivers dont' work anymore :( so I changed back to regular nv drivers....

all my programs work except one.. Enemy-Territory *cry*
Any ideas on that or should this be in the kernel section...?


Thanks for the ideas! and btw, I hate tron :p
Hardened kernel... Well, you'll have to make some changes then.

1. Switch GCC profile to vanilla GCC.
2. Recompile xorg-x11, but make sure that dlloader and static are disabled before you do so.

This will hopefully change when 7676 of the nVidia drivers become stable and useful. One should be able to compile both xorg-x11 and nvidia-glx with dlloader while using the Hardened GCC... (7676 doesn't work at all on this computer, and using the official ones causes the computer to crash every now and then...)

Also, you might have to change PaX permissions on xorg and all the games (OpenGL applications). For example:

paxctl -PEmRxS /usr/bin/Xorg
paxctl -PEmRxS /usr/games/bin/cube_clinte
paxctl -PEmRxS /usr/bin/glxinfo
paxctl -PEmRxS /usr/bin/glxgears

Etc...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


  • Gish (platform game with a physics engine, commercial, demo in portage)
  • Scorched3D
  • Quake3 w/ Tremulous mod (soon to be a standalone game)
  • Savage (fps/rts, kinda commercial? I heard you don't need a cdkey to play anymore)
  • Vendetta Online (mmorpg/fps space shooter, commercial)
  • Neverball


Plus some others people already said, UT2004, wesnoth, SMAC, ET.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sachankara, I turned on static, but I didn't turn on dll loader (because dll loader said nvidia would work)

Anyways, how do I turn off static for xorg?







Edit: Sweet! After testing my comp out some more.. I can finally mount floppies and cdroms... (Haven't checked dvd's yet)
Unfortunately I still cannot mount my zip drive..

Also, I can't mount blank cdroms.. so how do I mount a blank cdrom and burn iso or copy backups onto a cd-r cdrom
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