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| lame question for all the people talking about memory usage...how do you check memory usage? |
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| Skowen wrote: | | lame question for all the people talking about memory usage...how do you check memory usage? |
| Code: | [del@silver del]$ free
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 515764 507252 8512 0 0 389168
-/+ buffers/cache: 118084 397680
Swap: 1050832 7328 1043504 |
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ebrostig
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| Appu wrote: | | Sylhouette wrote: | I hope it supports my i845 chipset now i must use the vesa driver wich can not go higher than 800 x 600
So /me also want xfree4.3 |
I am sorry for following up late on this and also being slightly off topic as well, but I get
1024x768 with the vesa driver on this 845 based machine I have at work. Just check your
BIOS and see how much shared memory you are allocating as video RAM. I guess you are
at present giving it only 4 MB.
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For all you i845/i830/i810 people out there. 4.3.0 has support for your chipset, I'm currently using it and have direct rendering enabled too.
If you need instructions on how to configure it, check Intel® 830M/845G/852GM/855GM/865G Driver for XFree86
Here are the steps I use, also necessary after installing a new kernel.
1. ebuild /usr/portage/x11-base/xfree/xfree-4.3.0.ebuild compile
2. cd /var/tmp/portage/xfree-4.3.0/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/drm/kernel
3. # make -f Makefile.linux i830.o
# modprobe agpgart
# rmmod i830
# insmod i830.o
That should be it!
Restart the Xserver and type 'glxinfo' to verify that you have direct rendering enabled.
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d3c3it
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newbie question, do you have to run XF86Config after emerging Xfree 4.3.0? Im on a toshy laptop *chipset trident cyberblade xp* is it worth upgrading X? iknow it has newer/more support for my chipset im just scared of screwing my install because ive only just got gentoo installed and want to use it before i screw it up heh. any help ie telling me on how downgrade/remove stuff with emerge ive no idea im a newbie heh
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ebrostig
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 1:14 am Post subject: |
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| d3c3it wrote: | | newbie question, do you have to run XF86Config after emerging Xfree 4.3.0? Im on a toshy laptop *chipset trident cyberblade xp* is it worth upgrading X? iknow it has newer/more support for my chipset im just scared of screwing my install because ive only just got gentoo installed and want to use it before i screw it up heh. any help ie telling me on how downgrade/remove stuff with emerge ive no idea im a newbie heh |
If you already has a fully functional X installation, just take a copy of your config file, /etc/X11/XF86Config if you fear loosing it. A new X installation will not overwrite the file (I just upgraded from 4.2.99 to 4.3.0 without a hitch).
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d3c3it
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| ebrostig wrote: | | d3c3it wrote: | | newbie question, do you have to run XF86Config after emerging Xfree 4.3.0? Im on a toshy laptop *chipset trident cyberblade xp* is it worth upgrading X? iknow it has newer/more support for my chipset im just scared of screwing my install because ive only just got gentoo installed and want to use it before i screw it up heh. any help ie telling me on how downgrade/remove stuff with emerge ive no idea im a newbie heh |
If you already has a fully functional X installation, just take a copy of your config file, /etc/X11/XF86Config if you fear loosing it. A new X installation will not overwrite the file (I just upgraded from 4.2.99 to 4.3.0 without a hitch).
Erik |
Thanks:)
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KiTaSuMbA
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| Mooses wrote: | Well, I have a little prob:
Since Upgrading to XFree 4.3 the more, less, bar key doesn't work anymore under X, while there's no problem at the console. Any suggestions anyone? (german keyboard layout) |
And I just found out that I have the very same problem... with the italian keymap. (and, yes, I did let it use the new kmp files)
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Appu
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For all you i845/i830/i810 people out there. 4.3.0 has support for your chipset, I'm currently using it and have direct rendering enabled too.
If you need instructions on how to configure it, check Intel® 830M/845G/852GM/855GM/865G Driver for XFree86
Here are the steps I use, also necessary after installing a new kernel.
1. ebuild /usr/portage/x11-base/xfree/xfree-4.3.0.ebuild compile
2. cd /var/tmp/portage/xfree-4.3.0/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/drm/kernel
3. # make -f Makefile.linux i830.o
# modprobe agpgart
# rmmod i830
# insmod i830.o
That should be it!
Restart the Xserver and type 'glxinfo' to verify that you have direct rendering enabled.
Erik |
Well, the machine I have at work is a br0kenHat machine. I have left XFree 4.3.0 to compile
at home and will check it up later. There shouldn't be any problems with the nVidia drivers
going by the posts on this topic. Thanks for the information and the link.
Regards,
Appu |
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nitro322
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| ebrostig wrote: | Here are the steps I use, also necessary after installing a new kernel.
1. ebuild /usr/portage/x11-base/xfree/xfree-4.3.0.ebuild compile
2. cd /var/tmp/portage/xfree-4.3.0/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/drm/kernel
3. # make -f Makefile.linux i830.o
# modprobe agpgart
# rmmod i830
# insmod i830.o
That should be it!
Restart the Xserver and type 'glxinfo' to verify that you have direct rendering enabled.
Erik |
I'm setting up a Dell Latitude C400, which uses the i830M chipset. I followed your instructions above and got it to work. Thanks for posting them, because I was having trouble.
However, even though it's working, it's not working very well. Performance is very sluggish, startup time is EXTREMELY long, and overall it just doesn't feel right. I already had this same laptop configured for X and KDE with RedHat 8.0, and it worked great. Here, however, it's a dog. Any idea what could be causing this?
I'm including my XF86Config file, just in case that helps. Thanks.
| Code: | Section "Module"
Load "dbe" # Double buffer extension
Load "GLcore" # OpenGL support
Load "dri" # Direct rendering infrastructure
Load "glx" # OpenGL X protocol interface
Load "extmod" # Misc. required extensions
Load "freetype"
Load "type1"
EndSection
Section "Files"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" # Location of RGB database
EndSection
Section "ServerFlags"
# Option "DontZap" # Disable <Ctrl><Alt><Backspace>
# Option "Dont Zoom" # Disable <Ctrl><Alt><+|-> mode selection
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "keyboard"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "PS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
Option "Buttons" "2"
Option "Emulate3Buttons"
Option "Resolution" "100"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Dell 1024x768 LCD"
HorizSync 31.5 - 57.0
VertRefresh 50 - 90
Option "dpms"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "Intel i830-M"
Driver "i810"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Intel i830-M"
Monitor "Dell 1024x768 LCD"
DefaultDepth 24
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubsection
EndSection
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Layout0"
Screen "Screen0"
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection |
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akb
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: Convert StarDock CursorXP |
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i tried this few mins ago and it works, since the cursorxp themes are simple packages with png images inside. the script just converts the describing index file. and it looks quite nice 
now i only have to figure out how this transparency works. shadows are controlled my the lill perl script.
tipp: you have to start the script from within the decompressed cursorxp theme dir. at least this is the easiest way. |
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d3c3it
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: GCC?? |
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| Regor wrote: | | refriedbean wrote: | Hey guys. According to the output below, emerge -u xfree wants to upgrade my GCC. Any ideas why?
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Its because when ~x86 is active and you update, it assumes you want to update everything in the dependency tree of the package to the current unstable levels. leave off "-u" and everything will be fine. |
does it matter if you upgrade your GCC *i did it by mistake:/*
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KiTaSuMbA
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| KiTaSuMbA wrote: | | Mooses wrote: | Well, I have a little prob:
Since Upgrading to XFree 4.3 the more, less, bar key doesn't work anymore under X, while there's no problem at the console. Any suggestions anyone? (german keyboard layout) |
And I just found out that I have the very same problem... with the italian keymap. (and, yes, I did let it use the new kmp files) |
Submitted bug #16895
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AkiAki007
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Skowen wrote: | | lame question for all the people talking about memory usage...how do you check memory usage? |
top to see what's using what. use man top to see what all the fields mean. RSS is the field that corresponds to the amount of RAM being used, SIZE is the complete footprint of the process - stack space, code size, etc, etc. |
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geforce5_guy
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Is it safe to emerge xfree-4.3.0 now, with Gentoo rc-2 and a GF3 card?
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petu
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| geforce5_guy wrote: | | Is it safe to emerge xfree-4.3.0 now, with Gentoo rc-2 and a GF3 card? |
I believe no-one can quarantee that xfree4.3 will work for you but AFAIK it should be quite safe. I read somewhere that the newest mandrake's beta use xfree-4.3 too. |
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Appu
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| geforce5_guy wrote: | | Is it safe to emerge xfree-4.3.0 now, with Gentoo rc-2 and a GF3 card? |
I have just merged X 4.3 on my machine (Gentoo 1.4 rc_2, ARCH=~x86, GeForce3) and it
works great. I am using nVidia drivers. Compiled with gcc-3.2.1-r3 (which was unmasked at
that time but is now masked again and so I have -r1, but then I compiled it with -r3).
Regards,
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geforce5_guy
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Ok
i have xfree-4.3.0 now and i runs great, i emerged it and a reboot and it worked.
Only at the terminal i didn't see any tekst. But that was solved with an other font type in the terminal.
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darktux
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Why the reboot?
This is Linux young man! 
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akb
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whats been the pendant to reboot if you should reboot? *lol*
init 6 or how to reinitialize? |
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AkiAki007
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| Indeed 4.3.0 is stable, the latest Slack release uses 4.3.0, along with quite a few of the more recent packaged (KDE 3.1, Gnome 2.2, kernel 2.4.2) |
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Does anyone have the problem where the Xfree startup cursor gets "stuck" on the screen after starting xfree 4.3? I have the new cursors enabled, and they look great, but when I startup the old cursor is used, the one that looks like a big black X.
Anyway, after logging in, wherever my mouse is when Gnome starts up, that big black X is stuck there for the entire session, even flipping in and out of Xfree via Alt+Fx. This happens on my laptop, so maybe it is because I have 2 mice (trackpad and usb, and moving either moves the one cursor on my screen, and does not affect the big X), and maybe Xfree forgets to turn off the cursor or whatever when it switches over to the new, nicer, alpha blended cursor (whiteglass). Anyway, it's very annoying, because usually I'm not paying attention and then I've left my mouse in the center of the screen while starting up, and I have to see it there for the whole session unless I log out (and sometimes have to restart). At the least, it makes it very hard to read notes, etc.
Nothing comes on top of this big X in my screen, not the current mouse cursor, nor any window. It does not go away on a screen saver.
Anyone else experience this? Is there a way to refresh, or restart the cursor?
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akb
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uh... thats a strange problem... never heard of such things before
btw: are you sure you arend using a monitor from before the 90s and the old x cursor isnt burned in?  |
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=P Laptop/LCD. That cursor problem forced me to downgrade to 4.2.1; I'll try the 4.3 on my desktop machine, perhaps I can then isolate it to the laptop.
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| KiTaSuMbA wrote: | | KiTaSuMbA wrote: | | Mooses wrote: | Well, I have a little prob:
Since Upgrading to XFree 4.3 the more, less, bar key doesn't work anymore under X, while there's no problem at the console. Any suggestions anyone? (german keyboard layout) |
And I just found out that I have the very same problem... with the italian keymap. (and, yes, I did let it use the new kmp files) |
Submitted bug #16895 |
Mooses, I've got the same prob. Can't we fix it by ourselves...? (But don't know how..  ) |
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