Help on make a amd64 server to getting OS DOS installed

Gert Andersen

I have not made dosemu to work and installed with patch for newer cpu's, and after my pc now is changed from be a desktop computer to a linux server, is there this miss and trouble that the OS DOS freedos is been messaging from emerge that it is not testet for a server to be installed on a server, and it shall be reported to Gentoo Hardened.
So it now I like to knoe if there is some OS DOS for linux and Gentoo to can be installed by internet and get, either by emerge or via download and installed on the gentoo amd64 server for use to make dosemu work complete.
I need this DOS OS liek msdos or Ibm DOS files to be installed befor my dosemi is complete working so dosemu not just say hit a key to return to linux.

So give me a helt on how and wher ei can finde some way to get installed the dos binaries files.
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Gert K. Andersen

Elv13 · Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:55 pm Post subject:

Never heard of OS DOS, but I know DosBox and qemu

Gert Andersen · Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:08 pm Post subject:

I can more say DOS like MSDOS and IBM DOS Utilties to run by dosemu, the DOS system there ws befr Windos and OS/2 the old Operation System.
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Elv13 · Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:04 pm Post subject:

Use the real dos if you want, but why can't dosbox work? Did you tried it?

Gert Andersen · Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:21 pm Post subject:

It is by dosbox dosemu I am by dos mode and I find that the old freedos interprenter fiels was there still, but symlink to them is not working and if I copy them into directory /dosemu/drive_c is doemu coming with wrong command interprenter and ask for shell command, the old freedos files is form my working dosemu and freedos before I got upgrade my cpu form a old 2Ghz cpu of amd66 AMD Athlont I X1 processor, amd now is the system and pc a server installation before was it a desktop pc and the freedos (dosemu-freedis binaries do emerge nd the system not like to install now.
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Elv13 · Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:34 pm Post subject:

I think you need to compile your dos emulator with multilib instead of native 64bit. Or use qemu as I said earlier.

Gert Andersen · Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:42 pm Post subject:

That is the problem on the pc it is a server now where it before was desktop pc and emerge come with that the freedos not is teste enough to be installed on a server. So I have to see if I by a sourve file have to do the work personly and not as binaries.
Then is so the way to make this be done by emerge of freedos from soruces.
else have it to be without emerge of it.
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Elv13 · Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:52 pm Post subject:

Emerging FreeDOS without multilib on a 64bit system (you are in the 64bit Linux forum, I assume you use 64bit OS) will create a 64bit DOS system. Somethign that never existed and will never exist. It will not be compatible with DOS applications (at least, I don't think so) as DOS is a 16bit OS. Please consider using an emulator with the official binary and not try to do something strange.

If freedos does not fill your needs, use MsDO,S DrDOS, IBM DOS or somethint that feel your needs.

Gert Andersen · Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:02 pm Post subject:

I am right of trying to emerge and compile freedos as they was in a binary packet there should put the right places by run emerge dosemu, but as the system before was a desktop system is it now a server system, and it is here the kernel and emerge stops with it is not tested for a server and I shall report it to hardened project guys.

I find that the freedos still was at my syste on /etc/dosemu/ directory but when I tryied to copy the most used 3 files to /dosemu/drive_c directory come dosemu out with it was the wrong command interprenter files and ask for a shell command.
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Elv13 · Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:41 am Post subject:

A server and a desktop are not different. It is exactly the same. If you run x86_64, then it would not work in any x64_86 system configured like yours, no mater if it is a server or a desktop.

keet · Guru Joined: 09 Sep 2008 Posts: 570

Just a curious question... D.O.S. was never 32-bit, either (at least none of the versions that I used... 3.x > 6.22), so how would a 32-bit DOS in Linux be compatible with DOS programs, either?

Ah, maybe I understand... i386-type processors can emulate a 16-bit environment, and a 64-bit C.P.U. can emulate a 32-bit one, but they can't emulate two layers down (64 > 32 > 16)

Gert Andersen · Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:06 am Post subject:

Ok, so if the cystem is a server kan it not run dosemu and use freedos, so the syste has to be setup another way to work with dosemu.
My Gentoo expert and helper has setup the system as a server, s in this case has the system to be setup as a desktop system else will it not work. Right?
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Elv13 · Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:12 pm Post subject:

A desktop and a server is exactly the same thing, there is no difference in the system itself. The only differences are in the packages choice. For the last time, I will not repeat it again USE QEMU or an older computer with 32bit OS. You can't DosEMU with a 64bit OS, you -need- qEmu to emulate a 32 or 16bit CPU and use it to run DOS.

Gert Andersen · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:47 am Post subject:

Ok, then is it qemu I shall use on my amd64, but strange as I have run dosemu on that amd64 pc before without troubles, but it could have been a cpu there could emulate for dos and go down to 32bit.
So qemu to dos on my amd64 now with my new cpu AM Athlon II X2 A3/2+ 245, should it.
I have dosemu installed in the pc and it works until I shall use a command interpreter as msdos command.com to run the dos part and it is here it stops self if there is the freedos files from before I had upgrade the cpu and the pc is setup as a server.
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Gert Andersen · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:06 pm Post subject:

Qemu have soem problem as dosemu freedos have, that it is not tested + not like to be installed with gcc4.x compiler and say require gcc3 to be good and well installed.
THen for dosemu is it running adn there is only freedos there not is weel working from hardened.
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i92guboj · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:16 pm Post subject:

Instead of all this hit and miss that this thread is right now, I suggest posting the real error messages in place of the vague descriptions.

Gert Andersen · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:26 pm Post subject:

ERROR: setup
qemu requires gcc-3 in order to build and work correctly please compile it switching to gcc-3.
We are aware that qemu can guess a gcc-3 but this feature could be harmful.

i92guboj · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:31 pm Post subject:

So you need to install gcc-3.x, you can do so with

Gert Andersen · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:42 pm Post subject:

I came on thinking on try change keywords in my make.conf from "amd64" to "~amd64" and this make it now to go on with the latest ebuild 0.10.6 for it and it is on to be done, but there is some more time for it self of I prefer to make dreedos installed for dosemu.
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i92guboj · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:50 pm Post subject:

The problem with dosemu is not because your pc is a "server". I have no idea of what do you understand by that. But as others said, server vs. desktop doesn't make a difference. The only thing that defines a server is the use that you give to the pc. If you use the pc to browse the internet and play games then it's a desktop, if you use the pc to put a website or an irc server, then it's a server. At a given moment one machine can be both things if necessary.

That is, unless you are talking about portage profiles. In any case, if you could post the output of these two commands we would have a more accurate idea about how your system is set up, and about the package set that's available to you:

Gert Andersen · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:13 pm Post subject:

Ok, I have got dosemu to work with a cpu patch for the newer cpu's and it just now that freedos not like to work to be installed to make it working on my amd64 pc.
Here is my emerge.info from command 'emerge --info' :

Portage 2.1.6.13 (default/linux/amd64/2008.0/server, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.9_p20081201-r2, 2.6.28-gentoo-r5 x86_64)
=================================================================
System uname: Linux-2.6.28-gentoo-r5-x86_64-AMD_Athlon-tm-_II_X2_245_Processor-with-gentoo-1.12.11.1
Timestamp of tree: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:45:01 +0000
app-shells/bash: 4.0_p28
dev-lang/python: 2.6.2-r1
dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r8
sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.11.1
sys-apps/sandbox: 1.6-r2
sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.63-r1
sys-devel/automake: 1.9.6-r2, 1.10.2
sys-devel/binutils: 2.18-r3
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.1
sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.26
virtual/os-headers: 2.6.27-r2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64 ~amd64"
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo /etc/udev/rules.d"
CXXFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="distlocks fixpackages parallel-fetch protect-owned sandbox sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://ftp.klid.dk/ftp/gentoo/ http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/os/linux/gentoo"
LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1"
MAKEOPTS="-j1"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT="/"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage/layman/gate.junc.org"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="acl amd64 apache2 bzip2 cli cracklib crypt debug dri gpm isdnlog mmx multilib ncurses nls nptl nptlonly openmp pam pcre perl pppd python readline reflection session snmp spl sse sse2 ssl svg sysfs tcpd truetype unicode xml xorg zlib" APACHE2_MODULES="actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias" ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard" KERNEL="linux" USERLAND="GNU"
Unset: CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, FFLAGS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LINGUAS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS

The cpu is a upgrade cpu from AMD Athlon I 2Ghz to a Athlon II X2 A3/2+ 245 Fam 16 Processor.
and when I instaal dosemu by emerge dosemu is freedos not been unpacked and compiled + installed and I got this from emerge on the screen and in the log file.

[33;01m*[0m This profile has not been tested thoroughly and is not considered to be
[33;01m*[0m a supported server profile at this time. For a supported server
[33;01m*[0m profile, please check the Hardened project (http://hardened.gentoo.org).

[33;01m*[0m This profile is merely a convenience for people who require a more
[33;01m*[0m minimal profile, yet are unable to use hardened due to restrictions in
[33;01m*[0m the software being used on the server. This profile should also be used
[33;01m*[0m if you require GCC 4.1 or Glibc 2.4 support. If you don't know if this
[33;01m*[0m applies to you, then it doesn't and you should probably be using
[33;01m*[0m Hardened, instead.

>>> Unpacking source...
>>> Unpacking dosemu-1.4.0.tgz to /var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/dosemu-1.4.0/work
[32;01m*[0m Applying dosemu-1.3.4-shm.diff ...
[A[120C [34;01m[ [32;01mok[34;01m ][0m
[32;01m*[0m Running eautoreconf in '/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/dosemu-1.4.0/work/dosemu-1.4.0' ...
[32;01m*[0m Running aclocal ...
[A[120C [34;01m[ [32;01mok[34;01m ][0m
[32;01m*[0m Running autoconf ...
[A[120C [34;01m[ [32;01mok[34;01m ][0m
[32;01m*[0m Running autoheader ...
[A[120C [34;01m[ [32;01mok[34;01m ][0m
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i92guboj · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:35 pm Post subject:

Ok, now we can start clearing some of the myths in this thread.

Gert Andersen · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:56 pm Post subject:

Dosemu is been merge as it shal it is just freedos-1.0-bin.tgz there not is done it by the messager of it here over.

emerge -pv dosemu:

[ebuild U ] app-emulation/dosemu-1.4.0.1 [1.4.0] USE="debug gpm X (svga)" 0 kb

I have run 'ebuild /usr/portage/app-emulation/dosemu/dosemu-1.4.0.1.ebuild unpack' and copied patch file cpu.patch into the work dosemu directory and run 'patch -p0 < cpu.patch' 3 times and got the config.c file good patch updated for family 16 processors, and then run emerge dosemu 3 times and got dosemu to work and start up with my cpu and the it is worked until it got to the freedos files to be unpacked and end there, with no palced and updated freedos files.
But the old freedos files and command interpreters gives error for wrong type and that there not is any freedos t execute dosemu longer and end up with hit a key to retur to linux.
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i92guboj · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:10 pm Post subject:

Well, first, sorry if this very evident, my knowledge about dosemu is very limited, but there are some things that makes not much sense to me. Maybe it's just because I am ignorant about dosemu so just bear with me.

One thing, though. You say:

Mousee · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:31 pm Post subject:

According to the FreeDOS build.txt file (located in the latest distribution - ke2039s.zip):