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radfoj
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I forged to mention one way - you can maybe switch this way:
Unmerge kdeedu and than emerge kdeedu-meta, so one by one, same for every other monolitic package (kdenetwork, kdeaddons and so - there are about 15 such packs.) |
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gen2_guy22
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| Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Code: | # emerge -s kdebase-kioslaves
Searching...
[ Results for search key : kdebase-kioslaves ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]
* kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves
Latest version available: 3.4.1-r1
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of downloaded files: 45,110 kB
Homepage: http://www.kde.org/
Description: kioslave: the kde VFS framework - kioslave plugins present a filesystem-like view of arbitrary data
License: GPL-2
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emerge -p kdebase
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild R ] kde-base/kdebase-3.4.1-r1
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emerge -s kmail
Searching...
[ Results for search key : kmail ]
[ Applications found : 2 ]
* kde-base/kmail
Latest version available: 3.4.1
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of downloaded files: 22,926 kB
Homepage: http://www.kde.org/
Description: KDE mail client
License: GPL-2
* kde-base/kmailcvt
Latest version available: 3.4.1
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of downloaded files: 22,926 kB
Homepage: http://www.kde.org/
Description: KMail Import Filters
License: GPL-2
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erge -p kdepim
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild R ] kde-base/kdepim-3.4.1-r1
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I will wait for the release of next ebuild then perform
emerge --unmerge kdebase
emerge --unmerge kde
etc-update
and then emerge kde-meta over some weekend. Hope that sounds about right.. |
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Carlo
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:57 am Post subject: |
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Please read The KDE Split Ebuilds HOWTO.
You can't mix split and conventional monolithic ebuilds. At the moment it's your decision, which you use, in the long run the monolitihic will be removed.
A point not mentioned in the above mentioned howto is, that Portage doesn't care about slots when deciding what to update. You can either remove all KDE versions prior to KDE 3.4 or add a couple of masks =kde-base/<monolithic ebuild name>-3.4*, so portage doesn't go wild because of trying to update KDE 3.3 ebuilds to 3.4.
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Havin_it
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| Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, my similar thread just got Dup'd, so I guess I should join this one.
I got to this situation (similar output to the above, OP here if you wanna compare) after doing the following:
1) emerge kde
2) emerge -C kde
3) unmerged all orphaned KDE-related packages I could find
4) emerge kdebase-startkde
5) emerged sundry individual packages, e.g. klaptopdaemon, kicker, konqueror, etc.
I contend, however, that my situation isn't really the same. Based on what Kulik advised in one of the other Dup'd threads:
| Quote: | | unmerge kdebase, kdegraphics, kdemultimedia, kdeartwork, kdetoys, kdeaddons, kdeadmin, kdegames, kdenetwork, kdeutils, kdepim, kdeedu. |
However, none of these packages, nor 'kde' nor 'kde-meta' are installed. I also looked in my /var/lib/portage/world file, and none of the above are listed there, only the individual app packages I emerged in step 5.
EDIT: Sorted now. One of the monolithics omitted in Kulik's list was still present (kdewebdev). Unmerged it and now emerge -uDp world is blocker-free. HURRAH!
To reduce the incidence of Dupes on this subject (yes, mine included, mea culpa) it would be good to have an *authoritative* list of the monolithic packages, which could be Stickied. Does such a list exist anywhere, or is there a way to generate it? |
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Headrush
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| Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Havin_it wrote: | Hi, my similar thread just got Dup'd, so I guess I should join this one.
I got to this situation (similar output to the above, OP here if you wanna compare) after doing the following:
1) emerge kde
2) emerge -C kde
3) unmerged all orphaned KDE-related packages I could find
4) emerge kdebase-startkde
5) emerged sundry individual packages, e.g. klaptopdaemon, kicker, konqueror, etc.
I contend, however, that my situation isn't really the same. Based on what Kulik advised in one of the other Dup'd threads:
| Quote: | | unmerge kdebase, kdegraphics, kdemultimedia, kdeartwork, kdetoys, kdeaddons, kdeadmin, kdegames, kdenetwork, kdeutils, kdepim, kdeedu. |
However, none of these packages, nor 'kde' nor 'kde-meta' are installed. I also looked in my /var/lib/portage/world file, and none of the above are listed there, only the individual app packages I emerged in step 5.
EDIT: Sorted now. One of the monolithics omitted in Kulik's list was still present (kdewebdev). Unmerged it and now emerge -uDp world is blocker-free. HURRAH!
To reduce the incidence of Dupes on this subject (yes, mine included, mea culpa) it would be good to have an *authoritative* list of the monolithic packages, which could be Stickied. Does such a list exist anywhere, or is there a way to generate it? |
Can you post your last output when trying to emerge? |
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gen2_guy22
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| Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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For the record i unmerged the blocks and emerge the kde split ebuild last week. Everything's fine and I am waiting for the next release. |
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Matteo Azzali
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| Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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I have monolithic kdebase and kdeartwork,
all the other kde-apps (about 40 packages) are split,
and all working fine for now *cross his fingers*
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EzInKy
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Carlo wrote: | Please read The KDE Split Ebuilds HOWTO.
You can't mix split and conventional monolithic ebuilds. At the moment it's your decision, which you use, in the long run the monolitihic will be removed.
A point not mentioned in the above mentioned howto is, that Portage doesn't care about slots when deciding what to update. You can either remove all KDE versions prior to KDE 3.4 or add a couple of masks =kde-base/<monolithic ebuild name>-3.4*, so portage doesn't go wild because of trying to update KDE 3.3 ebuilds to 3.4. |
Two questions. One, will monolithic be supported until 3.4 jumps to 3.5, or 4.0, whichever comes next. Second, will there be a "warning" for those of us who have "~ARCH" in our make.conf if support for monolithic continues into the next major version so we can switch at that time?
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Carlo
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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| EzInKy wrote: | | will monolithic be supported until 3.4 jumps to 3.5, or 4.0 |
KDE 4 is far far away, Portage 2.1 (proper set support, confcache,...) will also take a while, so I don't think it would be sensible to strip the monolithic ebuilds too soon.
| EzInKy wrote: | | will there be a "warning" for those of us who have "~ARCH" in our make.conf if support for monolithic continues into the next major version so we can switch at that time? |
You shouldn't rely on or expect warnings when running ~arch. 
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EzInKy
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| Carlo wrote: |
You shouldn't rely on or expect warnings when running ~arch.
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Touche! That would take all the fun out of trouble shooting and experimenting. wouldn't it?
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HTS
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I use the monolitic KDE and I had the same issue trying to make samba work.
| Code: | emerge -pv kdebase-kioslaves
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdialog-3.4.1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.4.3)
[ebuild N ] kde-base/kdialog-3.4.1 +arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdexdeltas -xinerama 21,907 kB
[ebuild N ] kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.4.3 +arts -debug +hal -kdeenablefinal -kdexdeltas -ldap -openexr +samba -xinerama 0 kB |
I just added samba to my USE and I did:
| Code: | | emerge --newuse kdebase |
This took only:
| Code: | genlop -t kdebase
* kde-base/kdebase
Thu Mar 2 08:27:44 2006 >>> kde-base/kdebase-3.4.3-r1
merge time: 36 minutes. |
Which I guess is shorter than the total merge.
I did NOT unmerge kdebase. Just so you know, unmerging is useless... |
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