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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marc,

yes... something was changed in the "sync" for vfat filesystem. Don't trust me too much, but it's something like this:

- Before (2.6.11) data gets writen to disk and then synced.
- After (2.6.12) data gets written to disk, then synced and then vfat table synced too.

That's or something else, you can look in lkml, but what I know for sure is that this is new in 2.6.12 :)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah I see, but it's Marctraider :wink:

Well I cannot test this anymore since I blown up my USB Stick 8O
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marctraider wrote:
Ah I see, but it's Marctraider :wink:

Well I cannot test this anymore since I blown up my USB Stick


And that could have been because of this thing. I have readed too much reports of people fucking up usb sticks with this kernel. I don't know what kernel devs are thinking...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it was not linux who fried it, I removed the plastic cover and just threw it in my bag :p
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well it was not linux who fried it, I removed the plastic cover and just threw it in my bag :p


Yeah?!?! Can't believe it! I do the same to mine because without plastic it was very thin. After three months, it started to work only sometimes and I had to blend it to work. Now it's dead. :D
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well mine was an mp3 player, a little more components on it, well it just gave a black screen on the little screen, and linux didnt recognize it anymore, just like in windows, but no components were fallen off or broke off.

And now the screen is broken as well lol.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ktech wrote:
Naib wrote:
copying to USB stikc is painfully slooooow

24meg, eta 28min!!!


Someone changed something in the vfat driver so now something like "every bit copied is synced and fat table updated", so it's very slow and even dangerous to the flash drive.

You should not use sync in /etc/fstab. If you use udev, which uses sync by default, you should avoid that behaviour by changing the file /usr/share/hal/fdi/90defaultpolicy/storage-policy.fdi. The next two lines must be changed from TRUE to FALSE:


<merge key="volume.policy.mount_option.sync" type="bool">false</merge>
<merge key="volume.policy.mount_option.sync" type="bool">false</merge>

And by the way, you now must unmount the flash drive before extracting it because of the no-sync thing.


tnx I changed these lines since they seemed the two relevant ones

Code:

         <!-- Use noatime and sync options for all hotpluggable or removable
               volumes smaller than 2GB -->
          <match key="volume.size" compare_lt="2147483648">
            <match key="@block.storage_device:storage.hotpluggable" bool="true">
              <merge key="volume.policy.mount_option.sync" type="bool">false</merge>
              <merge key="volume.policy.mount_option.noatime" type="bool">true</merge>
            </match>
            <match key="@block.storage_device:storage.removable" bool="true">
              <merge key="volume.policy.mount_option.sync" type="bool">false</merge>
              <merge key="volume.policy.mount_option.noatime" type="bool">true</merge>
            </match>
          </match>



Just gotta find my stick to see if it is ok.

So this gets teh storage/transfer speed up to normal then - no real prob with unmmout before removal, do anyway even with Gnome-volume manager
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naib wrote:

So this gets teh storage/transfer speed up to normal then - no real prob with unmmout before removal, do anyway even with Gnome-volume manager


that's right, but you'll have to wait a little more before the umount finish depending on the flash drive speed.

But this will enlarge the life of your device :)
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got problems with the TCP patches. When I run freenet for a while, I always get a kernel panic in net/ipv4/tcp_output.c
Changing to vanilla (2.6.12.3) solved the problem.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

supermihi wrote:
I've got problems with the TCP patches. When I run freenet for a while, I always get a kernel panic in net/ipv4/tcp_output.c
Changing to vanilla (2.6.12.3) solved the problem.


thanks for the reporting . we'll take care about it in next rel. :)

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:00 am    Post subject: cd burning Reply with quote

I think I have kernel related problmes buring cds with that release.. Graveman keeps on telling that no media is in, even though there is of course.. Gonna try a diffrerent kernel and report..
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry for blameing! It's not the kernel after all..- tried the "Holy Handgranade" with same results, and I'm pretty sure I was burning cd's with that version some time ago..
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

_loki_ wrote:
sorry for blameing! It's not the kernel after all..- tried the "Holy Handgranade" with same results, and I'm pretty sure I was burning cd's with that version some time ago..


OK. thanks for reporting however . it's always good to have a feedback :)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

by the way.. nice job!!! I need less then 50MB RAM booting all stuff I need including X, fluxbox adesklets, torsmo and root-tail!!! The gentoo kernel needed 80MB!!!
Thanks for doing that!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question: Where is the next version of love-sources coming? (based on 2.6.13.x kernel source).
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

petrjanda wrote:
Question: Where is the next version of love-sources coming? (based on 2.6.13.x kernel source).


Almost all love patches are in vanilla now. Its no reason to make new one with the same patchlist now.

cheers :)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for being rude, but what is the reason for using love-sources, if all love patches are in vanilla right now anyway? Not that I'm s´dissapointed with love (I told before), but what differences can I expect from love in future?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

almost all love's stuff is in vanilla now.

there is no future.
Love-Sources is dead. R.I.P.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fallow wrote:
almost all love's stuff is in vanilla now.

there is no future.
Love-Sources is dead. R.I.P.

cheers.


so love is dead, meaninless sex exists!!! :D
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd love to use "sex-sources" if they were around ;-)
Can't do the kernel hack myself but; I'd give every support I can!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

_loki_ wrote:
I'd love to use "sex-sources" if they were around ;-)
Can't do the kernel hack myself but; I'd give every support I can!!!


because the only sex you can get is mindless wank sourcecode additions?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't call that sex, but anyway you're kind of right :?
Maybe I should go out more often and have my eyes lasered to get ridd of my nerd glasses.. anyway sexy is a nice attribute I think; not as deep and meaningful as love, but still quite attractive! I'd use them! ;-)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to take this time to personally thank every single user of Love-sources throughout what has been an experience of a lifetime - sometimes I cursed you guys for breaking it, sometimes I hated you for making false claims of my brilliance - but overall working on this project has be a very pleasant experience and I know that when I started this thing in the dark dungeon I called home years ago I didn't expect it to ever be publicly available, then when that happened, I didn't expect anyone to use it and Love-sources grew to be come, I'm told, the second or third (depending of course on weither or not -mm is a patchset or an official tree in your line of thinking) most used non-vendor patchset in the world. I take it the ratio of mental people in the world is larger than I thought, because all the way through the project I kept saying I had little clue about what was really going on - running something I wrote on your kernel takes guts beyond all meassure - Insane people I salute you.

The project started as a way to research a bit into all the proposed solutions to the imfamous lag bug, and since that is long gone - the original goal for the project as such can be deemed a succes, not so much because we had any impact on the solution, but at least we had fun during the journey. And by all meassure in life, it's not the goal but the journey that counts - I thank you all for making mine an interesting and eventful one.

Even you Ciaranm, and I'm sorry for all the mess the project might have inadvertantly cause you and your fellow developers.

Let's bid a friend farewell, Love-sources may you rest in peace.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye. It was also great time for me. I remember some periods like genetic-nicksched experiences hehe and kicking-out reiser4 from love. Ahhh nice. :twisted: It seems that my journey with the "patchseting" is finished, but ...maybe one day... :)

Thanks and R.I.P :)

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thankyou Fallow, they were some nice kernels. Got a bit boring when Gentoo just worked (with the quality of ebuilds improving). The on-the-edge patches brought back fault-finding
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