The F? Virtual Window Manager (part 3)

mirko_3 · l33t Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 605 Location: Birreria

Yeah, I figured.
But I can't get it to work.
I have this in my config:

boroshan · l33t Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Posts: 730 Location: upside down

Your config looks good - do you have any error messages? They'll probably be in .xsession-errors or printed out to the virtual console if you used startx.

Other things to check - the FvwmRingMenu file will need execute permission. I'd have expected that to be preserved in the tarball, but it's worth checking.

Another possibility is to set

mirko_3 · l33t Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 605 Location: Birreria

As I said, no errors in the vt nor in .xsession-errors, and debug is already on. The file is executable. I'll try moving it to /usr/lib/fvwm/2.5.12/... I'll post back in a minute.
UPDATE:
No go, still doesn't work. Also, it doesn't show in ps:

boroshan · l33t Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Posts: 730 Location: upside down

OK then - try running it from an xterm. It should say something like

mirko_3 · l33t Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 605 Location: Birreria

Didn't crash. I emerged gtk-perl and I still get nothing...
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boroshan · l33t Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Posts: 730 Location: upside down

Odd. How are you starting it? Perhaps something like

mirko_3 · l33t Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 605 Location: Birreria

How would I start one? I found an executable with that name in /usr/lib/fvwm/2.5.12/FvwmConsole, but when I try to start it I get "*FvwmConsole version 2.5.12 should only be executed by fvwm!"

Anyway, there seemed to have been problems with emerge; now that I finished emerging Gtk-perl, on every restart I get (I'm typing from memory as the error appears in vt1 and I have to switch back and forth):

boroshan · l33t Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Posts: 730 Location: upside down

Got it! There's a bug that crashes it if you don't specify a background image with the Setting option. I'll see if I can get a fixed version ready for the morning. Thanks for the report.

Oh. and FvwmConsole is another module. You need to start it from a menu or key binding with

mirko_3 · l33t Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 605 Location: Birreria

I still get the same error; I'll try with a background now...
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mirko_3 · l33t Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 605 Location: Birreria

Got it to work! It was my fault, one of the icons I specified wasn't there, so the module just quit on not finding it, printing the DESTROY message. Thanks, it's really cool!
Now, if only I could find a cool iconset...
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mirko_3 · l33t Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 605 Location: Birreria

Really cool, just a thought: could you add an HoverIcon (or whatever you wish to call it) so that I can specify a different icon to use when the mouse is over the icon? You can than have icons that grow when your mouse passes over them...
If it's too much work, never mind, as it's already great!
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boroshan · l33t Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Posts: 730 Location: upside down

mirko_3 · l33t Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 605 Location: Birreria

Hehe, using your FvwmThumbnail is on my todo list :lol:

Anyway I'm glad to see you will do it, this will really become great. One annoying thing I've been experiencing is that whenever I left-click on an icon, to open it's submenu, the fvwm menu opens just as if I had left-clicked on the desktop...
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boroshan · l33t Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Posts: 730 Location: upside down

mmm... that shouldn't happen, and I can't replicate it at this end. Any chance you can pm me with your complete config? there are probably going to be interactions between fvwm and GTK for which I have failed to make proper allowance.
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plbe · l33t Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 661

if any of you guys are looking for a central place to put all your scripts we have one up at www.boxwhore.org

mirko_3 · l33t Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 605 Location: Birreria

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mirko_3 · l33t Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 605 Location: Birreria

Well, thanks, I didn't really expect you to work so hard on it

In case this helps, here's some more info:
-I start a terminal, I click on the desktop beside it, so that many icons appear above it; I center-click on an icon which has no Mouse2 action configured, and nothing happens. Then I center click on the central icon, which is set to *Withdraw: in this case the Menu disappears, but the clipboard text gets pasted in the terminal below. Same thing for left-click: if the icon has a configured action, both the icon and the app below it respond to it
-I keep my browser full screen, and start FvwmRingMenu using the combination defined in my config (click anywhere pressing alt and winkey), and the menu fires up. Same thing as above, only that if, for example, I left click on an icon, the left click is "passed on" to the desktop, not to the browser (and therefore a menu appears). Again, the icon responds as it is supposed to, and if it has no configured action, nothing happens.

Hope this helps you some
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quellthrix · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 111

Hello fellow fvwm faithfuls.
I've been using fvwm for maybe about a month or so, and I think I may have found my WM of choice after trying KDE, Gnome, Fluxbox and XFCE4 (although XFCE4 would be my secondary desktop of choice). I have been meddling extensively with Taviso's config file and have as of late been attempting to extract the portions of his code that I liked into my own home-grown config. However, I've of course run into some foggy areas and need some assistance from you guys who seem to have boundless knowledge on the subject...

This is what I envision: at the bottom of the screen, an area reserved via EwmhBaseStruts for Taviso's thumbnail function, which would effectively be my taskbar, running across the bottom of the screen. At the right of the screen, I hope for a two-part panel (hopefully transparent) that will hold torsmo to keep an eye on my system, and below it, a nice little pager. I managed to get my menu configured just the way I like it, and I am planning to use only the menu to launch programs (perhaps assign a hotkey to let the root menu popup when the cursor is in a window? Not sure). I wanted to do this because I'm still hooked on fluxbox's menu-driven navigation, and why not use it, it'll free up space otherwise used by a toolbar.

Anywho, I know this may seem a tad self-aggrandizing to ask for help to set up my desktop, but despite all my studying different configs, I'm at a loss to figure out the mechanics to get it all to work.

So, if you gurus could send me off in a direction to study some tutorial (which I would understand, after all, it's quite a workload to accomplish) or just give me a basic, bare-bones config file to work off of, I'd appreciate it either way.

On a different note, I'm also a bit curious about the various ways that Taviso has placed his toolbar and FvwmShelf, using the different commands that somehow grab the resolution of the desktop or something like that (it involves using Piperead and $[w.h] variables somehow?...) to be able to place his toolbars in scale with the screen. How in the world does he accomplish this?

Thank you in advance for your help!

seppelrockt · Guru Joined: 14 May 2004 Posts: 423

Hello,

I'm quite new to fvwm and have a little question: I use the whiteglass cursors and this works quite good in general, however when I'm on the desktop and not on the pager, a window or something I get this ugly default black cross cursor. I guess I have to specify a cursor for this special situation in the fvwm .conf (the rest is done by the X cursor theme atm) but don't know exactly how. Some help would be nice. Thanks!

quellthrix · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 111

Unless I'm mistaken, I beleive that you can resolve this by adding

mirko_3 · l33t Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 605 Location: Birreria

Boroshan: any updates to your FvwmRingMenu?
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boroshan · l33t Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Posts: 730 Location: upside down

Not yet. My wife wasn't well last week, and this one I've just started a new job. I haven't forgotten though

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theBlackDragon · l33t Joined: 23 Nov 2002 Posts: 768 Location: Belgium