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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yminus wrote:
Hehe, I just was about to post a new thread to complain about this shitty forum search with this braindead stop-word list and missing of Boolean expressions - and despite the maddening search found this thread dating back to Feb 2003! Sorry folks, I did not read this thread since it is far too long, but believe me the forum search still sucks...
What did you expect, this is Gentoo you know. Move on.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I need to do a search on the forums I usually start with the forum search. If that brings up nothing I try searching on google with "emerge gnome fails site:forums.gentoo.org"
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DownSet wrote:
When I need to do a search on the forums I usually start with the forum search. If that brings up nothing I try searching on google with "emerge gnome fails site:forums.gentoo.org"


Actually the forum search brings complete irrelevant things. I think Gentoo should use Google for it's searches.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dE_logics wrote:
Actually the forum search brings complete irrelevant things. I think Gentoo should use Google for it's searches.

See here for why that's not an option.
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Actually the forum search brings complete irrelevant things. I think Gentoo should use Google for it's searches.

See here for why that's not an option.


Maybe you should start using something like Recoll.
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maybe you should start using something like Recoll.

Recoll itself is of little use here but when (if?) we move to phpBB3 there are various options for performing full text searches that we will explore.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:55 pm    Post subject: The search functionality in these forums sucks Reply with quote

I don't know if anything can be done about it, but the search functionality really blows. It doesn't find what it ought to find.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed -- use Google with "site:forums.gentoo.org" .

I'm sure something can be done about it, just as something can be done about the GLSAs, newsletter, official handbook, and wiki.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tip.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can keyword some date limited searches in your browser, too. For firefox with pentadactyl, e.g. "6 months or newer" and "within last year" searches:
`:open fgo6 openrc udev' would find openrc udev posts within last 6 months

fgo6 http://www.google.com/search?q=%s+site%3Aforums.gentoo.org+-inurl%3Asearch.php&as_qdr=m6

fgo1 http://www.google.com/search?q=%s+site%3Aforums.gentoo.org+-inurl%3Asearch.php&as_qdr=y1
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it doesn't suck so much that I couldn't find this topic :)

Merged from here.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:16 am    Post subject: Simple search for vivaldi doesn't show recent posts Reply with quote

Searching for the word vivaldi in the forum's search field results in only 12 threads, none of them on the vivaldi browser, while a search in google "gentoo forum vivaldi" find at least 2 of them :
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1009844-view-previous.html?sid=f5c776b9d339163d2ed306b5cad17043 and
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7702778.html?sid=710670a0cce46d3a2b2b3946779b2639.
This is not a problem of posts lost in hundreds of results. Vivaldi can hardly be considered as a stop word. So why these 2 threads don't show up ?
I understand the forum is powered by phpbb 2.0.23-gentoo-p11.
If it was upgraded to 3.0.11 would it solve this kind of wrong functioning ?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, what i don't get:
Todo the phpbb migratation:
- the switch itself (as all changes imply work, tests)
- the gentoo patches migration.
- the databases...

I don't get the gentoo patches migration trouble, i mean if you patches phpbb it is for two reasons: custom function and security.
The security: what was in phpbb 2.x certainly doesn't affect phpbb 3.x, it doesn't mean all are fixes, but certainly a high numbers affecting 2.x doesn't anymore affect newer one.
The custom: i don't know how a "stock" phpbb 3.x is, but i don't really see what custom functionality gentoo has add in 2.x that would really be missing.

I just assume search function is better with newer phpbb, it doesn't mean it is reality, but it is something i feel safe to assume, they couldn't had made it worst, as the current version search function is clearly bad.
The problem is that even if the newer search function is as worst as current phpbb one, nobody is willing to fix it, as nobody have really the balls to look into this old tweaked phpbb2 code use by gentoo. So having a newer phpbb, with the same bork search option, would mean some people get faith back and find courage to put their hands in the code.

Couldn't infra provide a test server to implement a "stock" phpbb latest version for testing?
Does newer phpbb imply a huge amount of work, like migrating old database to newer one isn't doable by a script or something?

Because user database shouldn't be lost, but the forum threads could, having my first post searchable isn't really worth any value, too old questions and answers cannot be use generally to fix a recent issue. And this could be kept in its own url (like an forum-old.gentoo.org of forum-history.gentoo.org...) if people really wishes browse such old datas.
The lost of old threads would also mean, a light, really lighter database weight, something any hardware will appreciate (as i think the gentoo forum threads count is pretty awesome and as push phpbb into something his author himself didn't tests with such huge amount of posts).
The consideration that forum post count is any value for search engine result exist, but it would be kind of weird to keep up the old database just for that. So if database migration couldn't be made, the base should be drop.

So even if threads migration isn't doable, i really think it won't be a big lost (it will a bit, but the benefits of lighter base and newer phpbb should oustand the lost)
With proper message sent to anyone, you could even drop user database, asking everyone to create a new account on the new gentoo forum.
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