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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:40 pm    Post subject: Opera 8 Final Reply with quote

*orgasms violently*

I think I will attempt to modify the beta 2 ebuild to make one for it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YAY!
Good to see they didn't give in to the firefox craze.

Though unfortunately, bloat keeps creeping into it, moving it ever closer to ex-best browser in the world.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It works fine, just modify the first couple lines.
Bloat? Well, at first it may seem so, but just customize it enough, use the -nomail flag, and most importantly disable flash (opera's biggest weakness in linux)...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the site not working properly for anyone else? Specifically the mirrors... ALL of them?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason the site and mirrors are down is because there was a post on slashdot about the release.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nephros wrote:
YAY!
Good to see they didn't give in to the firefox craze.

Though unfortunately, bloat keeps creeping into it, moving it ever closer to ex-best browser in the world.

The only thing it currently has which I truly believe is overkill, is the IRC client. What else are you referring to?
(An argument could be made for (against) M2, but seeing as I use it, I'll not be the one making it...)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are we getting an official ebuild for this? I want to update Opera cleanly with Portage.... and just can't wait :)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ebuild Submitted
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloat?
Just lots of nice features crammed inside a few megabytes. :)
Bloat must be an application each for RSS, email, browsing and IRC...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scoody wrote:
Bloat?
Just lots of nice features crammed inside a few megabytes. :)
Bloat must be an application each for RSS, email, browsing and IRC...


Indeed
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scoody wrote:
Bloat?
Just lots of nice features crammed inside a few megabytes. :)
Bloat must be an application each for RSS, email, browsing and IRC...


I'm your opinion. Why using an additional mailing application when you can simply have two things in one? :)

I've just discovered the great features of Opera, and I'll maybe buy it, too. :)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cagnulein wrote:
Ebuild Submitted


The one you made for 8b3 worked wonderfully. However, this one seems to no longer have the Manifest file, leading to complications such as:
!!! Security Violation: A file exists that is not in the manifest.
!!! File: files/digest-opera-8.00

Thanks for any insight.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ebuild opera-8.00 digest
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
System wide configuration files:
  /var/tmp/portage/opera-8.00/image//etc//opera6rc
  /var/tmp/portage/opera-8.00/image//etc//opera6rc.fixed
 cannot be prefixed
Do you want to install them [ y,n | yes,no ] ?
ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /opt/gnome/share/pixmaps/opera.xpm
cp: cannot create regular file `/opt/gnome/share/pixmaps/opera.xpm': Permission denied
install: cannot stat `/usr/local/portage/www-client/opera/files/opera.desktop': No such file or directory
man:
prepallstrip:
strip: i686-pc-linux-gnu-strip --strip-unneeded
strip: i686-pc-linux-gnu-strip --strip-unneeded
   opt/opera/lib/opera/8.0-20050415.5/spellcheck.so
   opt/opera/lib/opera/8.0-20050415.5/opera
   opt/opera/lib/opera/8.0-20050415.5/works
   opt/opera/lib/opera/8.0-20050415.5/missingsyms.so
   opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins/libnpp.so
        opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins/libnpp.so will contain runtime text relocations
Text relocations require a lot of extra work to be preformed by the
dynamic linker which will cause serious performance impact on IA-32
and might not function properly on other architectures hppa for example.
If you are a programmer please take a closer look at this package and
consider writing a patch which addresses this problem.
   opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins/operaplugincleaner
   opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins/operamotifwrapper-1
   opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins/operamotifwrapper-2
   opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins/operamotifwrapper-3
>>> Completed installing opera-8.00 into /var/tmp/portage/opera-8.00/image/

--------------------------- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY ---------------------------LOG FILE = "/tmp/sandbox-www-client_-_opera-8.00-15937.log"

open_wr:   /opt/gnome/share/pixmaps/opera.xpm
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
please help gekko browsers are killing my xorg
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not saying Opera is bloated, but I think they are on the road to getting it so.

And while all the non-browser stuff is nice, IMO none is quite on par with alternative programs.
M2 for example has very limited contact handling (LDAP? vcards?) and the IRC client is ridiculous.

The should concentrate on making the best browser in the word again instead of another mozilla suite. Firefox with all the cool extensions is very hard competition.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For IRC, I agree, I would rather use feature rich dedicated clients for that. I personally like the browser, the mail client, and the RSS support.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not trying to say anything, just a fact: I read a post from an opera developer on their forums which stated that they're IRC client is less 40k...
Anyway, to disable it, -nomail flag (I don't think you can have one and not the other...)
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh man, look at this.

There will soon be a job vacancy in Norway after a tragic event in the pacific, methinks.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nephros wrote:
Oh man, look at this.

There will soon be a job vacancy in Norway after a tragic event in the pacific, methinks.


Good one :-D
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AhronZombi wrote:
Code:
System wide configuration files:
  /var/tmp/portage/opera-8.00/image//etc//opera6rc
  /var/tmp/portage/opera-8.00/image//etc//opera6rc.fixed
 cannot be prefixed
Do you want to install them [ y,n | yes,no ] ?
ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /opt/gnome/share/pixmaps/opera.xpm
cp: cannot create regular file `/opt/gnome/share/pixmaps/opera.xpm': Permission denied
install: cannot stat `/usr/local/portage/www-client/opera/files/opera.desktop': No such file or directory
man:
prepallstrip:
strip: i686-pc-linux-gnu-strip --strip-unneeded
strip: i686-pc-linux-gnu-strip --strip-unneeded
   opt/opera/lib/opera/8.0-20050415.5/spellcheck.so
   opt/opera/lib/opera/8.0-20050415.5/opera
   opt/opera/lib/opera/8.0-20050415.5/works
   opt/opera/lib/opera/8.0-20050415.5/missingsyms.so
   opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins/libnpp.so
        opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins/libnpp.so will contain runtime text relocations
Text relocations require a lot of extra work to be preformed by the
dynamic linker which will cause serious performance impact on IA-32
and might not function properly on other architectures hppa for example.
If you are a programmer please take a closer look at this package and
consider writing a patch which addresses this problem.
   opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins/operaplugincleaner
   opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins/operamotifwrapper-1
   opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins/operamotifwrapper-2
   opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins/operamotifwrapper-3
>>> Completed installing opera-8.00 into /var/tmp/portage/opera-8.00/image/

--------------------------- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY ---------------------------LOG FILE = "/tmp/sandbox-www-client_-_opera-8.00-15937.log"

open_wr:   /opt/gnome/share/pixmaps/opera.xpm
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
please help gekko browsers are killing my xorg

I have the same problem, I've tried USE="-sandbox" emerge opera, but still the same problem.
Anyone can help ?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mirko_3 wrote:
It works fine, just modify the first couple lines.
Bloat? Well, at first it may seem so, but just customize it enough, use the -nomail flag, and most importantly disable flash (opera's biggest weakness in linux)...



Here (amd64) opera + flash work ok.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I noticed pretty long starting time with this version.

strace showed that opera spends a lot of time reading (indexing(?)) all the files in ~/.opera/cache.
Setting disk cache from 100MB to 20MB speeds this up considerably.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone please show us some screenshots ?

I remember I tried version 7 but I didn't like it (maybe because I'm using mozilla in all my net live so it was hard for me to get used to it)

Anyway can anyone tell me what is the **really** best 5 things in Opera ? (I don't want to say it's bad, I just want to see if I will get something from it if I switch from Mozilla/Firefox)

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, screenshots aren't much, as I can have it look like whatever I want... anyway, here's one:
www.rumandfruit.it/images/scrot.png
Caution: it's 1280x1024 PNG
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Titeuf wrote:
AhronZombi wrote:
Code:
System wide configuration files:
  /var/tmp/portage/opera-8.00/image//etc//opera6rc
  /var/tmp/portage/opera-8.00/image//etc//opera6rc.fixed
 cannot be prefixed
Do you want to install them [ y,n | yes,no ] ?
ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /opt/gnome/share/pixmaps/opera.xpm
cp: cannot create regular file `/opt/gnome/share/pixmaps/opera.xpm': Permission denied
install: cannot stat `/usr/local/portage/www-client/opera/files/opera.desktop': No such file or directory
man:
prepallstrip:
strip: i686-pc-linux-gnu-strip --strip-unneeded
strip: i686-pc-linux-gnu-strip --strip-unneeded
   opt/opera/lib/opera/8.0-20050415.5/spellcheck.so
   opt/opera/lib/opera/8.0-20050415.5/opera
   opt/opera/lib/opera/8.0-20050415.5/works
   opt/opera/lib/opera/8.0-20050415.5/missingsyms.so
   opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins/libnpp.so
        opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins/libnpp.so will contain runtime text relocations
Text relocations require a lot of extra work to be preformed by the
dynamic linker which will cause serious performance impact on IA-32
and might not function properly on other architectures hppa for example.
If you are a programmer please take a closer look at this package and
consider writing a patch which addresses this problem.
   opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins/operaplugincleaner
   opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins/operamotifwrapper-1
   opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins/operamotifwrapper-2
   opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins/operamotifwrapper-3
>>> Completed installing opera-8.00 into /var/tmp/portage/opera-8.00/image/

--------------------------- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY ---------------------------LOG FILE = "/tmp/sandbox-www-client_-_opera-8.00-15937.log"

open_wr:   /opt/gnome/share/pixmaps/opera.xpm
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
please help gekko browsers are killing my xorg

I have the same problem, I've tried USE="-sandbox" emerge opera, but still the same problem.
Anyone can help ?



i also get the same errors... Anyone an idea!? :-)

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