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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is so great, I can't await to do a fresh install on my workstation, I never thought for myself that I'm gonna use reiser4 that soon. :)

But I'll have to wait for your v1.2, as I also need sshd on that box to be a able to proceed with the installationl

will be ready ASAP, don't worry, this means that it will be available for download in a day or less :)

catalyst has some troubles with distcc, so I have to turn off it.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehe, I didn't want to ask the magic question ("When is it ready???") ... because of course I know, it's ready, when it's ready... :D

Nevertheless, I just wanted to tell, how excited I am 8)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lxnay from other threads it seems using tar to backup and restoring to reiser4 is a REALLY bad idea and you will hit a rather massive performance drop.

While I dont know italian, you might wanna look around and find a better solution, such as rsync?


why using tar is a bad idea? I never heard a thing like this. I'm using tar since I was a kid and I never encountered problems. In my opinion tar is easiest to use.


tar isn't a bad idea "in general" (it's actually brillaint ;) ) but for moving data to a reiser4 partition.


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Just remember though that if you eg tar a backup and then untar directly to the freshly formated reiser partition, performance will SUCK.

http://www.namesys.com/faq.html#file-ordering-speed
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not seeing anything about chipset support in your changelog.

did you compile a kernel with support for a lot of IDE chipsets this time?
(and no, the last cd had some AGP chipsets, not ATA chipsets ;) ).
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...mi mancano i tools per LVM, non e' che si potrebbero aggiungere nella prossima release?
Grazie ^_^
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...mi mancano i tools per LVM, non e' che si potrebbero aggiungere nella prossima release?
Grazie ^_^

mi hai letto nel pensiero per caso ? :)
Fra un'ora e mezza la nuova versione dovrebbe essere disponibile :)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

neuron wrote:
not seeing anything about chipset support in your changelog.

did you compile a kernel with support for a lot of IDE chipsets this time?
(and no, the last cd had some AGP chipsets, not ATA chipsets ;) ).


Quote:
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* embedded all IDE drivers into kernel
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lxnay wrote:
neuron wrote:
lxnay from other threads it seems using tar to backup and restoring to reiser4 is a REALLY bad idea and you will hit a rather massive performance drop.

While I dont know italian, you might wanna look around and find a better solution, such as rsync?


why using tar is a bad idea? I never heard a thing like this. I'm using tar since I was a kid and I never encountered problems. In my opinion tar is easiest to use.


tar isn't a bad idea "in general" (it's actually brillaint ;) ) but for moving data to a reiser4 partition.


STEDevil wrote:
Just remember though that if you eg tar a backup and then untar directly to the freshly formated reiser partition, performance will SUCK.

http://www.namesys.com/faq.html#file-ordering-speed


Here the quote:
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This effect is observed if the measured file set was produced by untarring some archive created not from a ReiserFS partition (or by copying files from a non-ReiserFS partition or by running a program that writes a bunch of files in some order). This is because the readdir() operation performed on the ReiserFS partition returns file names not in the original write order but rather in some hash order (dependant on the hash function used). Thus when reading files' contents the hard drive heads must move when going from one file to another. Mind you this "benchmark" is barely representing any real workload, but if you really want ReiserFS to outperform any other filesystem in your setup here is one solution: Copy the entire directory that you are not satisfied with to the same partition but with a different name (this can be achieved by the cp -A command), then remove the old directory and rename the new one with the old name. If the partition does not have enough space available, another approach is to tar up the whole partition, clear it, and then untar the previously saved data.


Well, my tar operations were across reiser 3.6 and reiser4 partitions. And if there should be speed problems, the solution is to tar and untar root directory again, right ?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Version 1.2 up and running !
Go download ! :)
...and enjoy it !
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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not seeing anything about chipset support in your changelog.
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* embedded all IDE drivers into kernel
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I am blind and dumb, my apologies ;)

lxnay wrote:
Well, my tar operations were across reiser 3.6 and reiser4 partitions. And if there should be speed problems, the solution is to tar and untar root directory again, right ?


reiser3 -> reiser4 should work fine, but a lot of people arn't on reiser ;) (my laptop for example was on xfs), and tar'ing it down should work fine, also a simple cp old new && rm -rf old && mv new old on all files in / should work perfectly fine (for those who couldn't guess it, do it from a boot cd, not running system ,) ).
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Version 1.2 up and running !
Go download ! :)
...and enjoy it !



http://www.lxnay.scarlet.nl/Gentoo-Reiser4-LiveCD-1.2.iso = 404, might wanna fix that link ;)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Version 1.2 up and running !
Go download ! :)
...and enjoy it !



http://www.lxnay.scarlet.nl/Gentoo-Reiser4-LiveCD-1.2.iso = 404, might wanna fix that link ;)

done
i only distribute .tar.bz2 files :)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an Asus A7NX-X nforce2 motherboard that will not boot this version of the livecd, even though 1.0 worked fine.

I get this far, then it never boots farther (typing from another screen).

cx89x0: no cs8900 or cs8920 detected. Be sure to disable PnP with SETUP

I had this same problem with the RIP cd, even though the gentoo cd's work fine.

Shouldn't we leave the network cards as modules on the cd, and let pci hotplugging detect them?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 3:45 am    Post subject: update Reply with quote

Mirror aggiornato! (alla 1.2)

http://diuf.unifr.ch/groups/students/broccoa/gentoo/


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have an Asus A7NX-X nforce2 motherboard that will not boot this version of the livecd, even though 1.0 worked fine.

I get this far, then it never boots farther (typing from another screen).

cx89x0: no cs8900 or cs8920 detected. Be sure to disable PnP with SETUP

I had this same problem with the RIP cd, even though the gentoo cd's work fine.

Shouldn't we leave the network cards as modules on the cd, and let pci hotplugging detect them?


I'll surely fix that, don't worry ! :P
I have the same mainboard on my server ;)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Accidenti, speravo in una release tra qualche settimana...ieri mi sono "accontentato" di reiser4 senza LVM...significa che adesso mi tocchera' reinstallare :P

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ho reinstallato il sistema non appena ho visto disponibile il nuovo bootcd con lvm.

Ho boottato, sono stato costretto a rimontare tutti i fs in rw (sarebbe comodo farlo in automatico) tuttavia ricevo vari errori di questo tipo (e ovviamente non viene creato nessun /dev/vg1/lvos e simili).

Forse il il device mapper qui richiesto non e' stato compilato nel kernel?

Grazie mille ^_^

Saluti

Code:

livecd / # lvcreate -L 1500M -n lvos vg1
  /dev/cdrom: open failed: Read-only file system
  /etc/lvm/backup: fsync failed: Invalid argument
  /dev/mapper/control: open failed: No such file or directory
  Is device-mapper driver missing from kernel?
  Failed to activate new LV.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Per completezza, riporto i passi da me compiuti:

con fdisk ho cambiato il tipo del mio /dev/hda3 in Linux LVM (8E)

Code:

livecd ~ # pvcreate /dev/hda3
  /dev/cdrom: open failed: Read-only file system
  Physical volume "/dev/hda3" successfully created

Mmhh...non e' piacevole...ma continuo comunque

Code:

livecd ~ # vgcreate vg1 /dev/hda3
  /etc/lvm/backup: fsync failed: Invalid argument
  Volume group "vg1" successfully created


Code:

livecd ~ # lvcreate -L 1G -n lvos -v vg1
    Finding volume group "vg1"
    Creating logical volume lvos
    Archiving volume group "vg1" metadata.
    Creating volume group backup "/etc/lvm/backup/vg1"
  /etc/lvm/backup: fsync failed: Invalid argument
    Found volume group "vg1"
  /dev/mapper/control: open failed: No such file or directory
  Is device-mapper driver missing from kernel?
  Failed to activate new LV.


Ho ovviamente controllato l'esistenza di un modulo chiamato device-mapper, device, mapper e tutto quanto possa essaere greppato da un modprobe -l.

Spero sia utile.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Merlink wrote:
Ho reinstallato il sistema non appena ho visto disponibile il nuovo bootcd con lvm.

Ho boottato, sono stato costretto a rimontare tutti i fs in rw (sarebbe comodo farlo in automatico) tuttavia ricevo vari errori di questo tipo (e ovviamente non viene creato nessun /dev/vg1/lvos e simili).

Forse il il device mapper qui richiesto non e' stato compilato nel kernel?

Grazie mille ^_^

Saluti

Code:

livecd / # lvcreate -L 1500M -n lvos vg1
  /dev/cdrom: open failed: Read-only file system
  /etc/lvm/backup: fsync failed: Invalid argument
  /dev/mapper/control: open failed: No such file or directory
  Is device-mapper driver missing from kernel?
  Failed to activate new LV.
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LVM sarà corretto con la 1.3 bugfix release, finalmente c'è qualcuno che sta testando un po' più a fondo tutte queste cose ;)
Abbi pazienza ed aspetta la prossima ISO, dovrebbe uscire entro stasera ;)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 11:59 am    Post subject: Re: [REISER4] reiser4 livecd ready !! Reply with quote

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non mi sono mai interessato di dmcrypt e cryptotools,


E non potersti includerli nella prossima release?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:06 pm    Post subject: Re: [REISER4] reiser4 livecd ready !! Reply with quote

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non mi sono mai interessato di dmcrypt e cryptotools,


E non potersti includerli nella prossima release?

ok vedo che posso fare, sto completando la prima parte della ricompilazione del LiveCD ;) lo inserirò nella parte finale del build se riesco

Hai qualche modulo del kernel che devo inserire in particolare oltre a dm-crypt?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm, I seem to be a little lost here. I have just downloaded the V1.2 image, and tried to boot this livecd.

But the first thing it tells is:
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ISOLINUX 2.08 2003-12-12 Copyright (C) 194-2003 H. Peter Anvin
Gentoo Linux 2004.0 Livecd   http://www.gentoo.org/
Enter to boot; F1 for kernels   F2 for options.
boot:
Available kernels:
   gentoo
   gentoo-nofb
   smp
   smp-nofb
   memtest86

When I use "gentoo", it starts with kernel 2.4.25-gentoo, when using "smp" its using 2.6.5-gentoo. It then complains about missing /lib/modules/... because there is only /lib/modules/2.6.9-rc-mm2. During boot I can see the spash-image of 2004.1.

So how do I start using kernel-2.6.9-rc1-mm2 ???
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, that was weird! I used a CDRW, so I thought maybe something went wrong during the burning, so I used another CDRW, burned again, and now it's working... :wink:

Never saw such problem before.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ok, that was weird! I used a CDRW, so I thought maybe something went wrong during the burning, so I used another CDRW, burned again, and now it's working... :wink:

Never saw such problem before.

Yeah, CDRWs are little annoying sometimes, better use DVD+RW, they have bigger space and, they're FAST.

For those who have problems, version 1.3 is COMING!
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Looks like I got happy too soon, it's not booting, when starting hotplugging, it can't load module aic79xx (using an ADAPTEC 19160 SCSI-adapter).

Can you please add this module in V1.3?

BTW As it didn't go futher, I don't know if it is already integrated, but can you please check, if the libata module for Sata Sil is included, as well as support for msdos filesystem and floppy support (I remember the love-livecd missing floppy support)?
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