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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:21 pm    Post subject: Shall I wait for 2005.0? Is the experimental release usable? Reply with quote

Hi,
I want to install gentoo on my P4 machine, and I want to have the linux26-headers instead of the linux-headers (to be able to use hal, dbus etc. etc. among other things). I read that with 2005.0, Gentoo switches to a default linux2.6-kernel usage. Does that mean that in the bootstrapping process in 2005.0 the linux26-headers are used? This would also mean that stage2&3 use the 2.6 headers in 2005.0, right? And, if that is true, does this work in the experimental release? Or should I wait for the final 2005.0 release?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's going to be very soon, I can feel it.

If I were you, I'd wait a little more. It is, of course, completely up to you.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So? I'm using 2004.3 and I'm installing with gcc3.4.3, udev, linux26-headers, nptl, et cetera.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing is: I want to avoid redundant installation procedures in order to get the linux26-headers installed. The best way would be a linux26-using bootstrap. The only other one I can think of is to install with stage3 and rebuild everything manually.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the hold up is about a few minor problems with 2005.0 so it should be official any day now... If you can wait, wait; otherwise, go with 2004.3! :wink:

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dv_ wrote:
The thing is: I want to avoid redundant installation procedures in order to get the linux26-headers installed. The best way would be a linux26-using bootstrap. The only other one I can think of is to install with stage3 and rebuild everything manually.

getting linux26-headers has nothing whatsoever to do with redundant installation procedures.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob P wrote:
getting linux26-headers has nothing whatsoever to do with redundant installation procedures.


Well, I have to install a linux-headers based system to be able to rebuild the base toolchain for 26-header usage.
Better: start with a 26-header-system. No need to rebuild the toolchain.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can safely bootstrap with "nptl" use flag even on 2004.3 profile & stage. Bootstrap script will automaticaly choose linux26-headers.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dv_ wrote:
Bob P wrote:
getting linux26-headers has nothing whatsoever to do with redundant installation procedures.


Well, I have to install a linux-headers based system to be able to rebuild the base toolchain for 26-header usage.

no, you don't.

1. as mentioned in the previous post, you can bootstrap into a 26 header system.
2. you can use the older installation media like 2004.2 that contains joint headers.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just downloaded 2005.0 and am about to install with it on my secondary system. For some reason the full livecd vanished as I was downloading, but I have the minimal one so plan to take it from there.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't work.

I included nptl in the USE flags, and it correctly selects the linux26-headers.
But it selects the linux-headers TOO!
Obviously, the latter blocks the former. An "emerge -C" does not work because the linux-headers are NOT installed.

Right now I'm in front of a system that needs to be bootstrapped (I'm starting from stage1). Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would highly recommend you follow Bob P's great guide on installing Stage 1 NPTL on a Stage 3 Tarball. It works great and doesn't suffer from redundent dependencies.
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