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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 8:21 pm    Post subject: vi not in portage? Reply with quote

Hello All,
So I did an emerge --sync today and found that there was an update for portage so I emerged portage and then did emerge --sync again. I found that after doing that when I tried to emerge vi not vim just vi the package wasn't in portage. Was it removed recently because on an older version of the portage tree on my laptop the package is there? Any ideas would helpful. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's gone but why not just use vim?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

/dev/random wrote:
It's gone but why not just use vim?

...or nvi!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the response guys. I know I can use vim instead I was just curious to know what happened to vi :) . I have been having some random issues with the machine I was trying to emerge vi on so I was wondering if my machine was messed up and portage was missing other packages or it was just that vi was removed. /dev/random do you know why they got ride of it I am sure there a few purists out there that would be upset that they can't have there original vi :wink: Thanks again for the response.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They probably got rid of vi because its old and outdated. I don't think there are that many purists that would hate vim considering the only noticable difference in the way they both feel is that vim has multiple undo so uu does not issue a redo.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got rid of it because it has to use termcap-compat rather than ncurses. termcap-compat is broken and about to be removed from the tree. If you want vi back, feel free to make it work with terminfo/ncurses.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zervus wrote:
/dev/random wrote:
It's gone but why not just use vim?

...or nvi!

nvi is the original vi !
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eniac wrote:
zervus wrote:
/dev/random wrote:
It's gone but why not just use vim?

...or nvi!

nvi is the original vi !

No it isn't.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure the vim ebuild creates a symlink from vi to vim that makes vim run in old-vi-compatibility mode....
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ooh ic,

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Nvi is an implementation of the ex/vi text editor originally distributed as part of the Fourth Berkeley Software Distribution (4BSD), by the University of California


But I think it comes closer to the orginal vi then vim does.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eniac wrote:
ooh ic,
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Nvi is an implementation of the ex/vi text editor originally distributed as part of the Fourth Berkeley Software Distribution (4BSD), by the University of California

But I think it comes closer to the orginal vi then vim does.

vim can be made to very closely emulate vi, even down to the bugs. But why would you want to? vi sucks.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nvi doesn't sucks it's just very limited compared to vim!
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