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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 7:40 pm    Post subject: famd vs gamin on AMD64 Reply with quote

On my AMD64 during normal use (downloading, moving files, etc.) famd will crash and use 100% CPU at least twice a day. This causes major problems with KDE (especially konquerer -- for obvious reasons). I find it hard to believe that SO many people are having issues with fam and no one has attempted any solutions. I understand that I connect to another computer using nfs that has a LOT of files in each directory, but that should not completely bork fam... anyway on to the details:

This forum post spawned this bug

and the answer was this (gotta love this response):
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try gamin.. fam is coming to an end.


My response to this was:
Quote:
Yes, gamin looks good, but as far as I can tell, there are no stable builds for ANY arch for gamin.. that seems a little too early to jump in for me. Since it is a mature prog, fam(d) should be stable, and certainly be more stable than it is if it is marked as such in the portage tree. Something that crashes daily for a LOT of people (see forums for many topics on this) should be worked out, or fam should be marked as '~' , IMO of course.


Now.. this was a couple of months ago.. and alas.. famd still crashes every day and no answer seems to be on the horizon.

So my questions are these:
- Is gamin worth a try?
- Has anyone here used it?
- Can I use it on a Gnome-less system?
- If it is worth using, how do I replace famd with gamin?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been using gamin for months. It's a drop-in replacement for famd. It works beautifully. Just "emerge -C fam" and "emerge gamin" and you're all set.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply.. I did as you say, but how do I start gamin? In the init.d there is a famd (still after unmerging!!) but there is no gamin? If it is truly drop in, I should be able to use the famd script, but it says that the file famd is not found. Thanks in advance for any help.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

omschaub wrote:
Thanks for the reply.. I did as you say, but how do I start gamin? In the init.d there is a famd (still after unmerging!!) but there is no gamin? If it is truly drop in, I should be able to use the famd script, but it says that the file famd is not found. Thanks in advance for any help.


gamin doesn't have to be started. It's simply a set of libraries that utilize the inotify function of the kernel.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've actually had more problems with famd than with gamin.

famd would lock directories mounted on smb shares for me, gamin doesn't.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info...

Trying out gamin now.. so far, so good 8)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoa there people 8O

I have just succeded in trashing my system updating to gamin :roll: Actually kernel inotify BUGS are triggered.

It seems that gamin didn't like the CFLAGS or something on my system, but judging from revdep-rebuild, the whole lotta packages should be rebuild with new one. I took the easy way around, backed up to using famd. Haven't got any problems with it anyway ( must have been hanging too long on that breakmygentoo.net site :lol: ).

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So... after unmerging fam, should I take fam out of my use flags? Are there any use flags for gamin?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No.. you have to leave the fam use flag in.. that implies that these gui apps can be updated using the libfam which gamin emulates. So leave the use flag in, get rid of famd and emerge gamin.. after several weeks of using this setup on my amd64, I can report that even though gamin SUCKS.. it sucks less that famd.. I often hit 100% cpu usage because of the gamin server just by opening up konqueror.. but at least I have never had it crash!!! that says a lot.
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