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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:09 am    Post subject: Hppa Hp 9000D (pa-risc) boot problem Reply with quote

When i boot from the live cd (hppa 2004.3)i get:

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Starting local
(LONG pause)
INIT: Id "c1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel


and the system hangs

i searchd the forum and I cant find the solution. anyone got an idea?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone got an idea?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Post /etc/fstab please.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cant because i cant get in... its on boot with the hppa live-cd (x86 cd doensnt work)
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ups, my fault, didn't get it. Did you try another version of the LiveCD?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, the x86 cd doesnt boot, the hppa livecd give's this error, and dont now what other livecd to try. (its a Hp pa-risc system)
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps try either an older or newer release of the PA-RISC (HPPA) Live CD?

The reason why the x86 Live CD doesn't work is mainly due to the fact the machine is a PA-RISC architecture, not x86. It's like making Mac OS X run on an IBM PC (natively I mean... not via PearPC or similar products) -- it ain't gonna happen.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cant find lower than 2004.2 ill try that monday..

but all mirrors got only 2004.3, they deleted the older verions

ftp://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/gentoo/releases/hppa/ (my main download mirror (1000mbit uplink))
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm able to boot whit the "livecd-hppa-20040513-32-64-pdc.iso" cd

only now i get:

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Invalid loop location: /zisofs
please export LOOP with valid location, or reboot and pass a proper loop=
kernel command line


BusyBox v1.00-pre7 (2004.02.29-00:20+0000) Built in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built in commands.

/bin/ash: can't access tty: job control turned off
/newroot #

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How are you booting to the CD? I'm installing Gentoo on the same system you have, althought I'm having bootstrapping problems. To boot, I turned on the PC and held Escape with a blank drive and no CD in the drive. It booter to PALO (I think that's what it's called). Then all I had to do was type "search scsi", then it found the cdrom, and I typed "boot scsi.2.0 ipl" and she worked fine.

If I didn't get into this PALO and type exactily "boot scsi.2.0 ipl" or whatever scsi ID your CD-Rom is at, it had a kernel panic part way through loading.

After it loaded the IPL, it asks you what field you want to boot with. The default is fine, so just type "b" and hit enter. From there on, I would imagine you would be set for a normal Gentoo installation as I am aside from my bootstrap problem :)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it booted normal (not hitting a key) and than:

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# search
(then you get a overview of all your drivers)
# boot p3
(location of the drive)

and then it just boots fine (until the error)


*edit*

even when i typ "ipl" after it it doenst work
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

im setting up a 9000/c110 system with gentoo linux, and i was having a console problem, well, i should say, it wasnt displaying correctly, but it was quickly corrected by changing the sti=8/0 info... to sti=8/3

but since you can get into the console part, this isnt the issue the issue is with the initrd possibly, make sure that the palo loader is pointed to the right places. if yuo think it isnt, then check the CD with a win9x machine, or one that works, and write down the initrd path and the vmlinux path. also is it a 32bit or 64bit processor (sorry i dont know, im very new to pa-risc based systems) my expierence is limited to what ive been doing on it for the last 8 or so hours... >.<:roll:
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:34 am    Post subject: Same problem... Reply with quote

I have the same problem here too, with the 9000 D370. I was hoping that I would find a solution to it here... I guess we're in the same boat. :(

Where else can we find a solution?



Simon


edit: BTW Random, if the processor in your system is 8000 onwards, then it is PA-RISC 2.0 (64-bit capable). For example, my 9000 D370 runs one PA-8000 CPU.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am just guessing around as I have lent my CD-ROM drive to a friend, but perhaps the location of that loop device should be
Code:
0/zisofs

instead of
Code:
/zisofs

You can change this by booting with the "ipl" option stated above.

If this does not help, does the Debian install CD-ROM boot? If everything else fails, you can boot the system up with these and then chroot to the desired gentoo location similar to what is described in the installation manual. If the tools inside the Debian boot-floppies do not match the requirements for doing so (they should do if I remember right), then make a minimal Debian install and then follow the alternative installation guide (Installing Gentoo out of a running Unix/Linux system). I succeded this last way on an x86 machine without CD-ROM.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I tried all the above methods except a getting an older CD (I'm on dialup). None worked. What I did do though after when it hung one time was to lash out on the keyboard (in frustration =P) and it said:

Kernel panic: Kernel Fault
In interrupt handler: - not syncing

Was that from my frustration or could that be something wrong in the system?

Oh, I'm accessing this maching via serial console.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FYI, I just created a new livecd :

http://dev.gentoo.org/~gmsoft/experimental/livecd/livecd-hppa-20050419.iso

(This may move into experimental on mirrors soon.)

The problem you're hitting is that the mux serial driver is missing from the 2004.3 livecd.
The 2004.2 should have worked but was removed from the mirrors.

The one I posted above have this driver and hopefully should work. If it does, please report it and I'll put it as the 2005.0 official livecd.

Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 1:47 pm    Post subject: Link broken... Reply with quote

I just came back from a holiday and checking for an update... the link is broken. Has it been moved already?
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes,

It's now on every mirrors into experimental.

Check here :
http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/os/linux/gentoo/experimental/hppa/livecd/
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Time for me to chime in...

I just came into an hp9000 series 800 k200 server (huge ugly monster, this is), tried a gentoo install w/livecd-hppa-20050419-rc4.iso, and got to the same(ish) place as the original poster. This box, from what I understand, needs the console to be ttyB0 (which is automatically picked up on by palo). I changed the TERM=linux line to TERM=vt100 (tried vt102 as well). I get as far as stealthgun:

Starting local [ok]
... <a few minutes roll by> ...
INIT: Id "c0" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel

If I then hit a key, I get a kernel panic.

As a console, I have the hp 700/96 connected. When booting, the kernel does load the mux driver, it seems, as I see it telling me it's found ttyB0 through ttyB7.

For my own purposes, I have no interest in getting the latest and greatest gentoo-hppa installed, as I'll just be using it as a starting point to compile up my own distro. So, that being said, has anyone successfully installed ANY version of gentoo-hppa on a k-class server w/the mux serial console?

jimbo out...
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK -- replying to myself...

Mounting the livecd-hppa-20050419-rc4.iso on a loopback on an x86 box, I see that there is no ttyB-anything in zisofs/dev, and that the MAKEDEV script doesn't make the devices. Does this cd use devfsd -- does devfsd even run on hppa? And will devfsd make my ttyB* devices, even if it does run? Having no experience w/linux on hppa, I'm probably rambling like a moron here, but how about this:

I can copy the iso contents to a temporary directory, say /tmp/newiso, then "cd /tmp/newiso/zisofs/dev; mknod ttyB0 c 11 0". Can anyone give me the mkisofs command line that I'd use to repack the iso image? Not really sure what it otta be to build an hppa-bootable iso...

Would there still be work to do in zisofs/etc/inittab? Please excuse my ignorance of the gentoo livecd boot process.

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, sounds like there is a bug there :)


I'l work on it this evening. Could you join me on irc (#gentoo-hppa on irc.freenode.net) ? That would speed the debug process a lot because I don't have any hppa using the mux driver.
If I'm not answering, just stay there, I'll certainly pop up :)

Thanks in advance :)
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 4:07 pm    Post subject: livecd hangs on boot Reply with quote

need help:

first i got

Starting local
(LONG pause)
INIT: Id "c1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel


with the official release

so i search the forums and found an experimantal release on dev.gentoo.org
but with that release the system hangs at:
freeing unused kernel space!


i tried an debian iso too, but no success.


romain


does anybody has an idea??
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you have a system that uses the mux serial console, you should try this:

http://dev.gentoo.org/~agaffney/hppa/misc/install-hppa-minimal-2004.2.iso

(thanks to gmsoft for that tip...)

also, you'll need to do a couple extra steps during the install:

1) when inside the chroot environment, run "mknod /dev/ttyB0 c 11 0"
2) edit inittab to reflect this serial console, instead of ttyS0

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx for that, it worked fine.

but 2 other problems!

1) i am a strange problem with /devpts. when booting, there is a message about missing dev file, so even the /dev/sda /dev/sdb are missing
only /dev/md0 that contains / is accessable?

2) i can't get smp support working, very time i boot an kernel with smp enable the system hangs at freeing kernel memory?



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