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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lepaca Kliffoth: It's only an edit when you use the edit button.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just for the hell of it, and because they made me use it for the first 2 weeks at work, I installed nitro on my debian 3.1 install.
Works perfect!
My 2 weeks are up, so I'm compiling gentoo now. Guess I should have started a few days ago.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger683 wrote:
J0Ba wrote:
After doing some reading it would appear that this problem first showed up in 2.6.9 within the ck patchset. This site seems to suggest it may be cfq:

http://bhhdoa.org.au/pipermail/ck/2004-October/001329.html

Perhaps cfq does something funky with SMT. darckness, you would know this better than me: did cfq, SMT, or reiser4 change recently with reference to scheduling code?



Idon't know if Darckness put the cfq-ts in the regular nitro, but I've put it in rt-version
(though, noone here seems to use it.... hmh, nevermind.......)
try another io-scheduler until next version comes out.....

PS:
all hte nvidia ppl can already look forward to next nitro, it'll be sth. special...

cheers,

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How can I change schedulers at the kernel line to "rt"? Currently I have "elevator=cfq"
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

u can't.
rt is not an io-scheduler.....
i propose u search on the lkml for "realtime-preempt" before asking further questions....
PS: to use the rt-version of nitro u must emerge nitro with USE="want-realtime", but i heard that nvidia ppl say that nvidia driver is broken with nitro-rt
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ebuild in rc3 does not have want-realtime functionality I don't believe...the USE flag is there but it doesn't look like it does anything :P

EDIT: Oh, nevermind, there is no rt patch for this version. I'll try previous.

UPDATE: The effect of enabling realtime on my kernel is much akin to putting a very large brick wall in front of a moving train.

Interesting thing is that I'm using cfq without a problem on 2.6.10-nitro2, but on 4 I have issues.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh man...you guys are in for a treat with the next release. Included will be something NEVER BEFORE SEEN IN ANY KERNEL. EVER.

Tremble in terror, mere mortals. We are...

INSANE NITRO DEVS!!!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh man...you guys are in for a treat with the next release. Included will be something NEVER BEFORE SEEN IN A KERNEL.

Tremble in terror, mere mortals. We are...

INSANE NITRO DEVS!!!!!


stabilty? JK
:D

I await patiently -- actually this post contradicts the patient part of the statement. Anyhow, I really appreciate the time and effort you put into these sources.

This latest release has been ok, except for the first time in many kernels I have been experiencing random lockups. This is the price to be paid for the latest and greatest.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Darckness wrote:
Oh man...you guys are in for a treat with the next release. Included will be something NEVER BEFORE SEEN IN A KERNEL.

Tremble in terror, mere mortals. We are...

INSANE NITRO DEVS!!!!!


stabilty? JK
:D

I await patiently -- actually this post contradicts the patient part of the statement. Anyhow, I really appreciate the time and effort you put into these sources.

This latest release has been ok, except for the first time in many kernels I have been experiencing random lockups. This is the price to be paid for the latest and greatest.


Due keep in mind that these are based on experimental kernel releases (2.6.11-rc*) which can lead to somethings going wrong. Also, there have been MASSIVE changes in 2.6.11 which will effect some stuff, so be ready for stuff to break.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poor things,
you don't even suspect what we baked today......
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Poor things,
you don't even suspect what we baked today......


I think we're the ones who were baked today...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think we're the ones who were baked today...


Is there anything i need to know about?????????????????????????????

*suspectssometrouble*

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darckness wrote:
Oh man...you guys are in for a treat with the next release. Included will be something NEVER BEFORE SEEN IN ANY KERNEL. EVER.

Tremble in terror, mere mortals. We are...

INSANE NITRO DEVS!!!!!


the ability to fry a cpu? :)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be nice to find a way to stop the nvidia drivers causing X to fail with "caught signal 11", and no other errors...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:58 pm    Post subject: teamspeak Reply with quote

teamspeak bombs out on me. it seems to have been narrowed down to a certain patch in https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=270956&highlight=teamspeak+killed . Is that patch included in Nitro, and if so, is it necessary?

Without Teamspeak, I can't give this kernel purplerhinos Gaming Seal of Approval, a real coveted honor :)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John5788: You can do that through your BIOS; it's called overclocking.

milothurston: Try toggling your agpgart support in the kernel and using/not using that.

purplerhino: That patch was NEVER used in any nitro. Ever. We try not to steal patches from gentoo-dev-sources and, for the most part, succeed. Therefore I can only think it is caused by one of the new developments in the 2.6.11* series.

Everyone else: I just finished the masterpiece. It IS a single patch.
Code:
-rw-r--r--  1 darckness darckness 136414 Feb 11 16:34 ?????-???????.bz2

Doesn't seem like a big deal, does it? Only 134K. But! This patch WILL reduce certain types of posts in this thread by about 97%, and it will save you several extra keypresses. Not only that, but it will make everyone who isn't using nitro/developing nitro jealous.

Feel free to take your best guess, but remember that you probably won't get it because we are:

INSANE NITRO DEVS WITH TOO MUCH FREE TIME ON OUR HANDS!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 9:55 pm    Post subject: teamspeak Reply with quote

dang.. i was hoping it was that easy.

well supposedly it used to work with ck and nitro back when it broke on gentoo-dev... so I'll go back a few nitros and see if I can pinpoint where it breaks, and maybe compare to vanilla to see if the problems there.

[edit] same thing in vanilla 2.6.11-rc3, so not a nitro issue.

I'm getting excited about the new nitro suprise though! :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Darckness"]John5788: You can do that through your BIOS; it's called overclocking.

milothurston: Try toggling your agpgart support in the kernel and using/not using that.
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Thanks - I've tried it with NvAGP=1 and 2, and both seem to do the same thing.
I'll try it on another machine to see if it works there.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

a patch that will make the computer unable to boot after trying this kernel ?
no one can came here after to said that the kernel is borked ^^'
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

takhisis_astrafall wrote:
a patch that will make the computer unable to boot after trying this kernel ?
no one can came here after to said that the kernel is borked ^^'


You not talk crap, you learn english better :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

for all the disbelievers: I AM actually using nvagp, not the kernel's built in AGP support on this kernel.

gzcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i agp (~)
# CONFIG_AGP is not set

cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep -i nvagp (~)
Option "NvAGP" "1"

This is something which should be impossible under 2.6.11... Still, it does work.

You might actually have stumbled across the fix in one of your patches here... (or was it intentionally? :P)

P.S. Can't wait for the next realease (although this one is great already) :)
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darckness wrote:
John5788: You can do that through your BIOS; it's called overclocking.

milothurston: Try toggling your agpgart support in the kernel and using/not using that.

purplerhino: That patch was NEVER used in any nitro. Ever. We try not to steal patches from gentoo-dev-sources and, for the most part, succeed. Therefore I can only think it is caused by one of the new developments in the 2.6.11* series.

Everyone else: I just finished the masterpiece. It IS a single patch.
Code:
-rw-r--r--  1 darckness darckness 136414 Feb 11 16:34 ?????-???????.bz2

Doesn't seem like a big deal, does it? Only 134K. But! This patch WILL reduce certain types of posts in this thread by about 97%, and it will save you several extra keypresses. Not only that, but it will make everyone who isn't using nitro/developing nitro jealous.

Feel free to take your best guess, but remember that you probably won't get it because we are:

INSANE NITRO DEVS WITH TOO MUCH FREE TIME ON OUR HANDS!!!


I am in need of a new keernel to compile. With your offer of a new nitro patch I am eager of compiling the current nitro.

So my question is: Is your masterpiece comming out tonight or tomorrow, or is for next week? I would really appreciate that you release soon so that I can get my hands dirty!!!!!!

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darckness wrote:
John5788: You can do that through your BIOS; it's called overclocking.

milothurston: Try toggling your agpgart support in the kernel and using/not using that.

purplerhino: That patch was NEVER used in any nitro. Ever. We try not to steal patches from gentoo-dev-sources and, for the most part, succeed. Therefore I can only think it is caused by one of the new developments in the 2.6.11* series.

Everyone else: I just finished the masterpiece. It IS a single patch.
Code:
-rw-r--r--  1 darckness darckness 136414 Feb 11 16:34 ?????-???????.bz2

Doesn't seem like a big deal, does it? Only 134K. But! This patch WILL reduce certain types of posts in this thread by about 97%, and it will save you several extra keypresses. Not only that, but it will make everyone who isn't using nitro/developing nitro jealous.

Feel free to take your best guess, but remember that you probably won't get it because we are:

INSANE NITRO DEVS WITH TOO MUCH FREE TIME ON OUR HANDS!!!


will we find out from the IRC logs?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darckness wrote:
John5788: You can do that through your BIOS; it's called overclocking.

milothurston: Try toggling your agpgart support in the kernel and using/not using that.

purplerhino: That patch was NEVER used in any nitro. Ever. We try not to steal patches from gentoo-dev-sources and, for the most part, succeed. Therefore I can only think it is caused by one of the new developments in the 2.6.11* series.

Everyone else: I just finished the masterpiece. It IS a single patch.
Code:
-rw-r--r--  1 darckness darckness 136414 Feb 11 16:34 ?????-???????.bz2

Doesn't seem like a big deal, does it? Only 134K. But! This patch WILL reduce certain types of posts in this thread by about 97%, and it will save you several extra keypresses. Not only that, but it will make everyone who isn't using nitro/developing nitro jealous.

Feel free to take your best guess, but remember that you probably won't get it because we are:

INSANE NITRO DEVS WITH TOO MUCH FREE TIME ON OUR HANDS!!!


I am often in search of words to express myself. Let me quote from the good book:
The Book Of Homer wrote:

Homer : I'm intrigued by your ideas, and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.

and
The Book Of Homer wrote:

Old man: "Take this doll, but beware; it carries a terrible curse."
Homer: "Ooo, that's bad."
Old man:"But it comes with a free serving of frozen yogurt!"
Homer: "That's good!"
Old man:"The frozen yogurt is also cursed."
Homer: "That's bad."
Old man:"But it comes with your choice of toppings!"
Homer: "That's good!"
Old man:"The toppings contain potassium benzoate..."
Homer: "....."
Old man:"That's bad."
Homer: "Can I go now?"


and

The Book Of Homer wrote:

Lisa: Dad, as you know, we've been swimming, and we've developed a taste for it. We both agree that getting our own pool is the only way to go. Now before you respond, you must understand that your refusal would result in months and months of...
Bart and Lisa: Can we have a pool Dad? Can we have a pool Dad? Can we have a pool Dad? Can we have a pool Dad? Can we have a pool Dad?
Homer: : I understand. Let us celebrate our new arrangement with the adding of chocolate to milk.


Thats, the one...

Darckness, as you know, we've been using nitro, and we've developed a taste for it. We both agree that getting a new kernel is the only way to go. Now before you respond, you must understand that your refusal would result in months and months of...

Can We have A new Kernel now?Can We have A new Kernel now?Can We have A new Kernel now?Can We have A new Kernel now?Can We have A new Kernel now?Can We have A new Kernel now?


...


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John5788 wrote:
Darckness wrote:
John5788: You can do that through your BIOS; it's called overclocking.

milothurston: Try toggling your agpgart support in the kernel and using/not using that.

purplerhino: That patch was NEVER used in any nitro. Ever. We try not to steal patches from gentoo-dev-sources and, for the most part, succeed. Therefore I can only think it is caused by one of the new developments in the 2.6.11* series.

Everyone else: I just finished the masterpiece. It IS a single patch.
Code:
-rw-r--r--  1 darckness darckness 136414 Feb 11 16:34 ?????-???????.bz2

Doesn't seem like a big deal, does it? Only 134K. But! This patch WILL reduce certain types of posts in this thread by about 97%, and it will save you several extra keypresses. Not only that, but it will make everyone who isn't using nitro/developing nitro jealous.

Feel free to take your best guess, but remember that you probably won't get it because we are:

INSANE NITRO DEVS WITH TOO MUCH FREE TIME ON OUR HANDS!!!


will we find out from the IRC logs?


Theres nothing in the logs about this :twisted:.

Edit: Yes, we do have WAY to much free time on our hands........
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As predatorfreak said, there is nothing in any of the logs about this. I know for a fact because I have temporarily suspended the uploading of logs until the next release. Wouldn't want anybody finding out what it is too early!

That being said, we've decided to wait until we've firmly marked the next release as stable before releasing it. We want this to be the best nitro EVER. Since we're so dedicated to this next release, it will most likely take a little while (especially since kernel patches/releases have been SLOOOOOOW lately). We haven't even started it yet (which isn't a problem since I can usually whip out a stable in ~20 minutes if I don't get distracted) because of a lack of further patches/fixes. I estimate that internal testing will take approximately one full day. Rest assured that I will give frequent (probably TOO frequent) progress updates as soon as we get started on it, because I am...

AN INSANE NITRO DEV WITH TOO MUCH FREE TIME ON HIS HANDS AND NOT ENOUGH KERNELS TO ABUSE!!!


Edit: Stop bugging me!! I won't give out the sekrit! Ever! If you want my precious, you'll have to get it out of predatorfreak. Check his sig for contact info if you're dedicated.
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