my gentoo freezes :(

hook · Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 6:34 pm Post subject: my gentoo freezes :(

sometimes when i run ed2k-gui (edonkey 2000) and then i try to update my world or compile something else, my computer freezes

...don't know why
...some help would be really apriciated, because 1. it's REALLY anoying 2. it reminds me of winblows 3. my younger brother started to make fun of linux again, because of that

(the most importaint is no 1!)
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RickDB · Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 7:13 pm Post subject:

I guess you are using the gentoo-sources

, i had the same problem you need to enable the preempt feature in the kernel( under the cpu stuff) then it hopefuly won´t crash anymore.

gfunkmonk · Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 7:15 pm Post subject:

I had this problem when i used lolo-sources, I switched to ck-sources and I haven't had a problem like it since.
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hook · Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 7:32 pm Post subject:

nope ...i use vanilla from day one on, an heve never (in more thatn 4 years) used any other source or even a precompile

...that's what's so confusing

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rac · Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 7:37 pm Post subject:

Is DMA on for your disk(s)? What IDE controller or motherboard model are you using.
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RickDB · Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 7:39 pm Post subject:

Maybe you should try to making a new kernel vanilla/gentoo and see what happends

If the problem remains then it could be some hardware problem.

hook · Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 7:55 pm Post subject:

motherboard: asus a7v (via apollo kt133 ultraDMA/100)
DMA as kernel support: in IDE/ATAPI... i have enabled "Use PCI DMA by default when available", but disabled "Boot off-board chipsets first support" "Force enable legacy 2.0.X HOSTS to use DMA" and "Enable DMA only for disks"
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rac · Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 8:16 pm Post subject:

What does "hdparm -i" say about the disk? Are there any kernel log messages that might help, like IDE resets or something?
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hook · Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 9:23 pm Post subject:

that's what hdparm says:

b_Q · Apprentice Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 163

I have same motherboard.
Had maxtor ata/100 drive failure.
(had a lot of disk io resets etc. in logs)

The BIOS does not smart-monitor drives
on promise ata/100 ide controller
only on via... ata/66 ide controller.

To check plug maxtor in via controller
or emerge app-admin/ide-smart.
It caught(on mdk) my maxtor drive failure.

My $0.02.
(memtest86 for bad ram ?)
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hook · Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 9:38 am Post subject:

ide-smart : all tests passed

...any other ideas? ...anyone?
...maybe it's the kernel ...but i doubt it
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c_kuzmanic · Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 9:53 am Post subject:

ed2kgui uses gtk. Are all your gnome apps and other gtk apps stable ?

hook · Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 9:59 am Post subject:

i don't use gnome but i do use gtk (gimp, gdm, xmms etc etc work just fine) ...the same is in my /etc/make.config ( USE "... gtk -gnome ...")
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c_kuzmanic · Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 10:08 am Post subject:

Since your probs do not seem to surface until you put your machine under heavy load (running resource-hog ed2kgui and emerge for example), I would definitely look to faulty ram first as aptly described earlier in this thread. I don't think that your probs are kernel-related since your use vanilla sources and your probs appear only during high load, this is the classical case for memory probs. Memtest is your freind, and you can also run stress, which does a pretty good job to put an insane amount of load on any machine, if there are any probs whatsoever they will surface very quickly during such a torture test phase.

$ emerge stress
$ stress -c 24

Then sit back and see what happens over a period of a few hours...

PS: You should also make sure that your ram sticks are compatible and supported by your motherboard.

hook · Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 10:10 am Post subject:

my ram is ok ...had it checked when i bought it (a few months ago) ..the sticks should be ok ...becuase i still heave the guarantee seal on the machine ...i don't like that ...but it's there

i think i need to add, that during 6 months of my owning the computer, i had to exchange 6 disks, 2 cdroms and 3 modems ...due to a motherboard problem (probably IDE controler was foobar) ...when i kicked the living rap out of the service-guy, i got a new motherboard, cpu cooler and the power supply unit

...what exactly does stress do?!? ...i mean ...does it try to break the machine, or does it just simulate that?
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c_kuzmanic · Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 10:14 am Post subject:

c_kuzmanic · Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 10:16 am Post subject:

c_kuzmanic · Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 10:19 am Post subject:

Before you run stress I would try memtest86 first.

hook · Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 11:18 am Post subject:

memtest gives me 203 errors in test 6

...help!
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c_kuzmanic · Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 11:26 am Post subject:

hook · Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 11:32 am Post subject:

...how do i know which stick is affected?!?
...this means i need to buy/reclaim a new ram stick

...and that in the middle of the holidays

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c_kuzmanic · Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 11:37 am Post subject:

hook · Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 11:39 am Post subject:

dang....i forgot to check which one it was

thanx for the help

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