Denu 2.0 - GUI based menu editing.

TanNewt · Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 9:42 am Post subject:

Denu needs write permission to /usr/share/pixmaps not any specific file. chmod 666 /usr/share/pixmaps or you should be able to give your user permissions to the folder. Denu needs to be able to write to /usr/share/pixmaps

monotux · Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 1:27 pm Post subject:

I can't even make it work as root.
Denu 2.1 seems pretty broken

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TanNewt · Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 7:17 pm Post subject:

It should not be run as root. Try it as a user and tell me the error(s) you recieve.

monotux · Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 12:18 pm Post subject:

scoobydu · Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 12:45 pm Post subject:

Does an ebuild exist for v2.x or the cvs build?

v2.1 says its installing v0.6?

Looks good though guys

waiting to give denu another try ...
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JeroenV · Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 5:28 pm Post subject:

I have to agree with Duty:
the denu_* pixmap files simply don't seem to exist, i.e. the problem is not access permissions but non-existing files. AFAIC the bz2 doesn't contain any pixmaps. It might be possible to include them?
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TanNewt · Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 9:46 pm Post subject:

furiorc,
Thats a strange error which I have not seen before. I'll look into it. Did you create one of your own?

scoobydu,
There are ebuilds you can download from sourceforge. Link obsolete, find ebuilds here copy this into your local portage directory under x11-misc.

JeroenV,
The program fetches the image from the web so only the required ones are downloaded. The permissions are need so denu can write the image to /.usr/share/pixmaps

If any of you know python I'd appreciate critiques on my code. ;-)

Thanks.

scoobydu · Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 9:57 pm Post subject:

monotux · Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 10:18 pm Post subject:

TanNewt · Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 10:20 pm Post subject:

Thats something that could be done. However if multiple users use the same program that would lead to multipe downloading of a file already on the system. If you have any suggestions I'd love to hear them because these last few posts show that either I need to check the permissions of /usr/share/pixmaps or some other solution.

monotux · Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 11:22 pm Post subject:

I think it works now

I removed the denu directory in /usr/share/pixmaps, and started denu as root (which downloaded everything, I think).
I'm just gonna figure out how you actually OPEN a file

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TanNewt · Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 11:32 pm Post subject:

You cannot open your window manager file only a denu generated one. I also suggesting backing your current menu up before you generate a new one. Again dont run it as root unless you normally use your desktop as root. Thats how it determines where to put the menu configs. You are not the first person to mention importing menu files into denu. I'll look into actually getting it to work. I'm also looking into starting documentation.

To create a structure I reccommend hitting update, then sysupdate and lastly autogen and then paring that menu down to what you like.

JeroenV · Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 12:17 am Post subject:

I spoke too soon, i.e. in ignorance mode :wink:

(I didn't look good enough to know about auto-download)

While I agree with your motivation to require user write access to a system dir, I don't really like this, in fact in a more professional environment it's out of the question to give a normal user write acces to shared system dirs. I can only think of 3 possible solutions to this problem:

require root to update the pixmap files (i.e. run as root for initialisation purposes)
include the full set of pixmaps in the distro (shouldn't be too much?)
make a seperate update script that does in fact the same as running denu as root, but doesn't bring up a gui and doesn't create or need a .denu directory.

I would prefer (3), it may eventually come to it that there would be a portage FEATURES flag that runs this script after every emerge. A prerequisite of course for this would be that denu would be made the de-facto gentoo standard of dealing with menu-generation.
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TanNewt · Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 12:33 am Post subject:

JeroenV I agree with you. I think we should continue discussing it and I will make the needed changes for the next release. I'm not sure what you mean by number 3. However the easiest solution would be to change the directory that the picmaps are stored in. One possible directory could be in /usr/share/denu or in the users home .denu directory.

As far as getting denu as the de-facto menu-generation program it would be awesome. However, the first step would be getting denu into portage. I've posted a bug but there hasn't been much interest as far as I can tell.

Thanks for your input.

Edit:
I forgot. I would rule out number 2 because the system is designed to rely on information taken off of the web to define what programs it supports for the menu. That way program support can increase without needing to release a new version of denu. I did this because I found the reliance of data within fluxbox-generate_menu.

Also, how would you go about supporting other non-portage based distros? Look for programs within the directories defined in the $PATH variable like menu maker?

scoobydu · Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 8:22 pm Post subject:

TanNewt · Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 8:32 pm Post subject:

scoobydu · Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 8:38 pm Post subject:

TanNewt · Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 9:08 pm Post subject:

Thats odd. I guess I'll put the icons in the home/.denu folder since thats where you think it should be. I dont know why you are stil getting that error. Hmm, I'll think about it.

scoobydu · Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 9:17 pm Post subject:

TanNewt · Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 9:19 pm Post subject:

You can replace its once its downloaded, the program wont know the difference as long as the filenames are the same. Adding icons through the gui is something on the todo list inside my head.

racoontje · Veteran Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Posts: 1290

Who got it to work on ~x86/~amd64.

TanNewt · Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 10:18 pm Post subject:

Are you asking if anyone got it to work on amd64? What are you asking?

I just released version 2.1.1. It fixes one bug I found and moves the pixmap directory into the /.denu folder in the users home directory.

scoobydu · Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 10:31 pm Post subject:

Ok, thats better imho. At least then if you remove denu, you know you just have to remove .denu to get rid of the data files, rather than having leftover files in /usr/share/pixmaps.

Anyway, some feedback.

1) Now execs as user ....
2) Quit and rerun, causes an error, saying the pixmaps directory already exists in .denu (need a check in here I guess)
3) Add the menu items with autofill gives me this error ... when I hit generate for waimea.

TanNewt · Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 10:32 pm Post subject:

Okay if you just grabbed 2.1.1 and get an error reinstall it after deleting the file denu-2.1.1.tar.bz2 in distfiles. I forgot a period in the code which resulted in an error. :roll:

Shame on me should have checked. Oh well it should be fixed now.

ARGH!!! okay, thanks scoobydu I'll fix that right now.

scoobydu · Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 10:38 pm Post subject:

Above same for new 2.1.1

Oh any chance of a "~amd64" in your ebuild too?

Yes shame on you :lol:

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