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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK. I found xdpyinfo. Here is its output.

xdpyinfo output wrote:
name of display: :0.0
version number: 11.0
vendor string: Gentoo Linux (The X.Org Foundation 6.8.0, revision r3-0.2.2.1)
vendor release number: 60800000
X.Org version: 6.8.0
maximum request size: 16777212 bytes
motion buffer size: 256
bitmap unit, bit order, padding: 32, LSBFirst, 32
image byte order: LSBFirst
number of supported pixmap formats: 7
supported pixmap formats:
depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32
depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
keycode range: minimum 8, maximum 255
focus: window 0x200000b, revert to Parent
number of extensions: 33
BIG-REQUESTS
DAMAGE
DEC-XTRAP
DOUBLE-BUFFER
DPMS
Extended-Visual-Information
GLX
LBX
MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
MIT-SHM
MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
NV-CONTROL
NV-GLX
RANDR
RECORD
RENDER
SECURITY
SHAPE
SYNC
TOG-CUP
X-Resource
XC-APPGROUP
XC-MISC
XFIXES
XFree86-Bigfont
XFree86-DGA
XFree86-Misc
XFree86-VidModeExtension
XInputExtension
XKEYBOARD
XTEST
XVideo
XVideo-MotionCompensation
default screen number: 0
number of screens: 1
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修改記錄/Edit:
Akar@200412180905: 代修正不當地大量引用系統
本來 248行,現在 63 行。
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IExcel 好, 各位論譠來訪者好,


首先,向 IExcel說聲對不起,到現在還沒把你的問題解決!:(

那我就在想,怎麼這貼越來越少人回貼?

前兩天,我到中國廣州省內的一個小鎮工作,那我想就懸念着 “不知問題解決了沒有?”。 那我就如常的登入這論譠,找到這貼子, 跟着我等了幾分鐘來下載這貼子!

我想回一個小貼的時候,那又要等幾分鐘來下載!

那究竟這貼子問題在哪兒了?

:!: 問題在於:大量引用 Xorg啟動記綠檔 和系統信息資料

iExcel wrote:

Sorry, I don't know what kind of information is helpful and what is not.

那怎麼/有什麼技巧避免這種情況發生呢? 請看來自答覆者的貼心提示:
(https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=1878572#1878572)
meteozwh wrote:

那么你在启动X的时候,把/var/log/Xorg.0.log打开,找找其中有没有(EE)和(WW)打头的行,看看其中说什么,如果不明白,可以贴上来问问。


akar wrote:
可以看看 xdpyinfo 的輸出嗎?
Code:
# xdpyinfo

:!: 請只是貼出 從第一行到 “number of screens: N”.

:!: 對了,你的貼子也太長了吧!! 可以幫忙修改一下,把不關緊要的刪掉吧,只留下你認為那些 對問題的描述 有幫助的

謝謝了。


Xorg LOG 官方的提示 wrote:

Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.


最重要的, 來自 EricHsu辛辛苦苦翻譯的
置顶: 发贴指引-新来请看 | 發帖指引-新來請看
,(同時感謝英文起草的Nitro版主!)

那版規是 什麼東西呢?

是EricHsu和我兩位版主拿來耀武揚威的幡子嗎? :)
不! 其實這些版規是由同時每天都使用論譠的人來起草,在大家有同識下,令論譠使用者最有效地使用論譠分享知識,愉快地和大家把酒談天 的經䌞總結

所以不論新手老手,也恳請把
置顶: 发贴指引 | 發帖指引
再看一遍吧, 那堆字不是因為要使這論譠看起來像個論譠, 而是要這論譠成為一個真的論壇

:arrow:
:arrow:
:arrow:
to: IExcel:
對了, 我這早上用 1小時30分鐘多一點的時間(包括這回貼)來處理你的這個貼,我希望這樣大家可以更好地閱讀這貼子和了解你的情況,讓這問題更快地解決。
主要是把一些沒有的引用刪掉(詳見:每貼的修改記錄)
我也把本來的 長貼 記錄 在一個網絡上的資源連結上。

:idea: 這也是應付大量引用的方法之一,而在
置顶: 发贴指引 | 發帖指引
也有提到了這點。 :)


誠意寫貼,來正
Akar,你們的版主。
:)
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Akar,

Thanks for your suggestion, although it didn't answer my question at all.

I would appreciate it if you could spend more time researching on the problem than suggesting what I should have done to *correctly* post information. I'd tend to think that it must have taken you a lot of time sending the post via a slow Internet connection in some rural area of China.

I believe this is a forum where people seek cures to the problems they have encountered in the best way they can tell what's happening at their side. As you know, some troubleshooting information, such as the X.log information, may contain pages of details. To me, I didn't know what I should have posted and what I should have ignored. If I had known what is going wrong with my Gentoo box, I would not have bothered spending time posting here.

Please do not assume that somebody could understand what you meant and, sometimes, some remarks from an experienced guy may not be well understood.

I know this is an odd problem and I have raised this particular problem on several forums before I came to this Chinese Gentoo forum, hoping to have somebody help me out.

Thank you very much, anyway. Let's kill this thread.

Happy holidays! :D
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iExcel wrote:
Hi Akar,
I would appreciate it if you could spend more time researching on the problem than suggesting what I should have done to *correctly* post information. I'd tend to think that it must have taken you a lot of time sending the post via a slow Internet connection in some rural area of China.


Honestly, i have spend more than one and a half hours on google to try to find the solution!! And i am still looking!! I do not have the experience tackling this problem myself, but i still try to find if there is any helpful message from the Internet, because, i think every thread posted here do have its purpose. :cry:

iExcel wrote:

I believe this is a forum where people seek cures to the problems they have encountered in the best way they can tell what's happening at their side. As you know, some troubleshooting information, such as the X.log information, may contain pages of details. To me, I didn't know what I should have posted and what I should have ignored. If I had known what is going wrong with my Gentoo box, I would not have bothered spending time posting here.

Please do not assume that somebody could understand what you meant and, sometimes, some remarks from an experienced guy may not be well understood.

:D


I was not born to be a experienced forum - 'somebody'. Believe me, i have my first thread post to a forum some years ago, then two, then three... :)

There is always helpful message to welcome new forum user. You might prefer to read in English version, please refer to this thread from Nitro's Guidelines (READ BEFORE POSTING)

Besides that, There are two guide messages from meteozwh and me respectively specified to you , BEFORE you quote/post the log message!!

meteozwh wrote:

那么你在启动X的时候,把/var/log/Xorg.0.log打开,找找其中有没有(EE)和(WW)打头的行,看看其中说什么,如果不明白,可以贴上来问问。

&
akar wrote:

:
:!: 請只是貼出 從第一行到 “number of screens: N”.


Are both very difficult to understand and follow?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

akar wrote:

Honestly, i have spend more than one and a half hours on google to try to find the solution!! And i am still looking!! I do not have the experience tackling this problem myself, but i still try to find if there is any helpful message from the Internet, because, i think every thread posted here do have its purpose. :cry:
Thank you. I've searched Internet for weeks without any clue.

akar wrote:

I was not born to be a experienced forum - 'somebody'. Believe me, i have my first thread post to a forum some years ago, then two, then three... :)

There is always helpful message to welcome new forum user. You might prefer to read in English version, please refer to this thread from Nitro's Guidelines (READ BEFORE POSTING)


I'd be curious to know which guideline I violated.

akar wrote:

Besides that, There are two guide messages from meteozwh and me respectively specified to you , BEFORE you quote/post the log message!!

Are both very difficult to understand and follow?


Doesn't the 4th guideline *suggest* one post the logging information?
Quote:
Include logs and tell us commands executed


Please correct me if I misunderstood the guidelines. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iExcel wrote:
Thank you. I've searched Internet for weeks without any clue.


Maybe that is why i have been searched for hours and try to use of different keyword combinations.
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=41738
I found the above thread which do a lengthy discusssion on nvidia card troubleshoting. Might that will give some hint on help yourself.
I think that is forum sepcified to troubleshoting all the nvidia display card. Might you are interested have some advice there.

iExcel wrote:

I'd be curious to know which guideline I violated.


I have deleted 1683 lines but leave only 153 which are likely to help others understand the PC problem you are facing. It is very easily follow and filtered out the key message.

:idea: For inexperience user, still one can upload the whole file to other resources and post the link in the message. Some guru sometime can easily understand you without even look one line of the log message. eg. 資源連結
akar wrote:

我也把本來的 長貼 記錄 在一個網絡上的資源連結上。


iExcel wrote:

akar wrote:

Besides that, There are two guide messages from meteozwh and me respectively specified to you , BEFORE you quote/post the log message!!

Are both very difficult to understand and follow?


Doesn't the 4th guideline *suggest* one post the logging information?
Quote:
Include logs and tell us commands executed


Please correct me if I misunderstood the guidelines. Thanks.


:) Mmm.. the 4th guideline does suggest post the log information. But it is not for your case, but it is for someone who post the message like this:

Code:
subject: help me! my XXX XXxxxxx XXXX doesn't work!!!
message body: as the subject says! 如題

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting...
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

可能是模块没有正常加载?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

druggo wrote:
可能是模块没有正常加载?
可能。怎么能知道是否正常加载呢?谢谢!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, iExcel,

iExcel wrote:

I would appreciate it if you could spend more time researching on the problem than suggesting what I should have done to *correctly* post information.


Akar 和我至少都为你的问题试图提供有用的帮助, 尽管没有实质性的帮到你, 对此我也非常抱歉, 可是希望你知道, 就算不能说是 "research", 我们确实为你的问题做过自己的努力, 尤其是 Akar.

至于发帖建议, 这就是我和 Akar 的应尽的职责了. 尤其在刚开版这段时间, 我们需要一个好的开始为版面以后的发展奠基, 希望能得到你, 以及版面上每一位朋友的理解与支持, 我在此感激不尽!

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I believe this is a forum where people seek cures to the problems they have encountered in the best way they can tell what's happening at their side. As you know, some troubleshooting information, such as the X.log information, may contain pages of details. To me, I didn't know what I should have posted and what I should have ignored. If I had known what is going wrong with my Gentoo box, I would not have bothered spending time posting here.


你说得不错, 我们遇到问题自然希望能在此得到帮助得到解决, 不过, 不知你是否同意, 更合适的提问方式有助于问题的更好解决? 关于引用错误信息的问题, 其实我在发帖指引的个人心得的第四点里给出过相关的建议:

Quote:

4. 请保持所引用的错误/配置/命令等信息的简短

发贴指引里说到 "请附上记录和执行过的命令列表", 但这不意味着就应该把整篇 xorg.conf 或数十行的编译输出信息都引用到你的帖子里...
[snip]
如果实在需要贴出 xorg.conf 这样多的内容 (有时想帮你的人会要求你贴), 这时最好的作法是: 将你的 xorg.conf 上传到网上某个服务器上, 然后在帖子里给出一行链接, 这样想帮你的人可以看到, 帮不了你的人在浏览帖子时也不会头疼 Smile


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Please do not assume that somebody could understand what you meant and, sometimes, some remarks from an experienced guy may not be well understood.


所以我们才努力尽自己的职责去帮助大家 understand ;)

无论如何, 欢迎你的到来, 也希望你的问题能尽快得到解决, 到时记得回来告诉我们你的解决办法 :D
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

终于问题解决了。

我在 /etc/X11/xorg.conf 中加入了

Option "FlatPanel" "true"

问题就没有了。

谢谢大家的帮助!节日快乐! :) :P
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iExcel wrote:
终于问题解决了。

我在 /etc/X11/xorg.conf 中加入了

Option "FlatPanel" "true"

问题就没有了。

谢谢大家的帮助!节日快乐! :) :P


WoW, 恭喜! 但是, 这个 Option 是用来干什么的? 简单解释一下它为什么导致系统出现那样的现象? ThanX!

另, Merry Christmas!

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- Eric.200412222304: 建议为原标题加上 "解决" 字样 ;)
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

恭喜了,iExcel,

就這麼簡單, 真不可思議!!, 我的 也是 LCD,但沒有這 Option 也沒問題,不過我用的是 FX5200。 8O

其實網絡也有不少的討論是有關於NVidia驅動不行的抱怨!
如果你不覺得太麻煩的話,請把你的 硬件組合, 還有所安裝的NVidia驅動 撮要地總結一下,可以嗎? 說不定立刻就有許多人得益了。

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