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madbiker Guru
Joined: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 439 Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:43 pm Post subject: Keeping up to date, do you -uD world or -u world? |
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I've noticed that a lot of people say they just use emerge -u world, without checking deps with -D. However I just checked the -u and it's nice and small... Maybe -u updates once every day or two and -uD updates bi-monthly or something?
What do you do. |
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alechiko Guru
Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 465 Location: Inside piano, do not disturb.
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:49 pm Post subject: Mm.. |
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I always use the --deep flag. I think that the only time it is dangerous to use it is if you are running an ~x86 system because whilst a certain package might not work correctly if you chose to merge the masked version of it, doing an "emerge -uD world" with ~x86 in your make.conf could potentially have very negative effects on your system. So it really all depends on what sort of system you want to run.
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placeholder Advocate
Joined: 07 Feb 2004 Posts: 2500
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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I always use plain -u and have never had any issues. |
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blackhorse Apprentice
Joined: 11 Jul 2004 Posts: 225 Location: edge of a forest
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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I have always used -uD, but I have never had any problems. _________________ Rejoice in the Lord always and again I say rejoice. |
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denstark l33t
Joined: 02 Jun 2003 Posts: 654 Location: sd.ca.us
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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I use emerge -uD world... no issues here. _________________ Blog
Code: | denstark> starbuck authorizes torture?
rokstar> sure they do, you tried their coffee?
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Pink Veteran
Joined: 24 Jul 2003 Posts: 1062
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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-uD for me.
The only time I had a problem was when I had a ~x86 system. But with package.keywords I don't need that anymore. |
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Insanity5902 Veteran
Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 1228 Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Illissius Guru
Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 395 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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I use -pvuD to check what apps have updates available, and then cherry pick the ones I want and emerge them seperately. Occasionally if the list gets really long I'll let the full -uD run overnight, but so far this has happened exactly once (been using it for ~6 months). _________________ Work is punishment for failing to procrastinate effectively.
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Bertil Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 30 May 2004 Posts: 87 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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I´m only use emerge world. _________________ /Bertil Stenberg
Sorry if I write bad english, I'm only 13 years and from sweden. |
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Kioshen Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 109 Location: Montreal, PQ
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Same as everyone I guess ... running a full ~x86 system for more than a year using emerge -uDav world. Once in a while emerge -av depclean and revdep-rebuild. Never had major troubles to speak I maintain my system up to date nearly everyday. Troubles were incurred due to testing leading edge software and ebuilds ... easily resolved by checking bugs.gentoo.org. _________________ -= United we share =-
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Why emerge -U will kill your Gentoo |
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Dud3! Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 93 Location: Boringville, Florida, USA
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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I haven't done a system wide update on my comp yet because I only started using Gentoo in June and I kept putting off updating until this week. I did emerge -uD --newuse system (because I changed my USE flags quite a bit) the other day with no problems, and I'm doing emerge -uD --newuse world as we speak (169 to go!). I've been ~x86 from the start so we'll see what happens I guess.
After this I'll update more often (like once a week). _________________ "There's no problem so large it can't be solved by killing the user off, deleting their files, closing their account and reporting their REAL earnings to the IRS" |
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alechiko Guru
Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 465 Location: Inside piano, do not disturb.
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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Bertil wrote: | I´m only use emerge world. |
So you recompile your entire system everytime?
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Insanity5902 Veteran
Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 1228 Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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akiru wrote: | Bertil wrote: | I´m only use emerge world. |
So you recompile your entire system everytime?
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no he doesn't, it just doesn't do any special checking, it just emerges the files in his world file that have never verions in portage. _________________ Join the adopt an unanswered post initiative today |
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krolden Apprentice
Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 293 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 11:03 am Post subject: |
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Just wondering: does it patch all security flaws as well? Because when I read some of the bugtraq entries at Gentoo, it sometimes suggests other arguments with the emerge command. |
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shash Apprentice
Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 220 Location: India
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 11:25 am Post subject: |
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emerge -puDv world, look at the packages and update whatever is needed. |
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BoZ Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 27 Aug 2003 Posts: 114 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 11:37 am Post subject: |
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First -pvuD and then -uD |
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spb Retired Dev
Joined: 02 Jan 2004 Posts: 2135 Location: Cambridge, UK
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Krolden wrote: | Just wondering: does it patch all security flaws as well? Because when I read some of the bugtraq entries at Gentoo, it sometimes suggests other arguments with the emerge command. | The 'other arguments' suggested in GLSAs are just to prevent the package from being put into the worldfile if it wasn't already there. If you want to get all the security updates, then the only way to do it is either (1) always use emerge -uD world, and make sure that your world file is in sync with your installed packages (emerge -pv depclean can help you with that), (2) watch for GLSAs and update the affected packages manually, or (3) use glsa-check, which is still slightly experimental. |
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mrmodin Apprentice
Joined: 24 Jan 2004 Posts: 216 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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-uD |
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masseya Bodhisattva
Joined: 17 Apr 2002 Posts: 2602 Location: Baltimore, MD
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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I follow this advice when updating. _________________ if i never try anything, i never learn anything..
if i never take a risk, i stay where i am.. |
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Hobbit_HK n00b
Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Posts: 54 Location: Israel
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Dizzutch Guru
Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Posts: 463 Location: Worcester, MA
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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-uDp world | genlop --pretend to check the time it should take, and then disregarding however long it may take -uD world, i run some packages ~x86, but only when the masked version has some important changes. |
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Aynjell Veteran
Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 1117
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Daily:
Code: | emerge sync
emerge -u world |
Weekly:
Monthly:
Code: | rm -r /usr/portage
emerge sync
emerge -Due world |
_________________ CPU: 3800+ X2 (2.5Ghz)
GPU: eVGA 7600GT (640/1700)
MOBO: DFI SLI-DR (Surprisingly good!)
RAM: 2 x OCZ Gold 1024 DDR500 3-4-3-7 (2048)
HDD: Western Digital Raptor |
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Lokheed Veteran
Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Posts: 1295 Location: /usr/src/linux
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Running my system on ~x86. Update quite frequently using:
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emerge -pvDu world
emerge -vDu world
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Lokheed Veteran
Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Posts: 1295 Location: /usr/src/linux
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Aynjell wrote: | Daily:
Code: | emerge sync
emerge -u world |
Weekly:
Monthly:
Code: | rm -r /usr/portage
emerge sync
emerge -Due world |
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Your monthly step has useless options in there. e means its going to recompile your entire system, the D and u are not needed in this case. An emerge -e world will do the identical thing. I cant believe you recompile your system monthly, thats extremely drastic... |
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Aynjell Veteran
Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 1117
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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I do it while I sleep. No sweat. I mean, it's not like I'm wasting my time...
I only do it while I sleep...
Anyway, I add all kinds of things in and it helps to clean things up, methinks.
And with the system in my signature, it doesn't take long at all. Whoever said using linux on older comps was better is an idiot!!! _________________ CPU: 3800+ X2 (2.5Ghz)
GPU: eVGA 7600GT (640/1700)
MOBO: DFI SLI-DR (Surprisingly good!)
RAM: 2 x OCZ Gold 1024 DDR500 3-4-3-7 (2048)
HDD: Western Digital Raptor |
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