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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 8:29 pm    Post subject: Bad performance in games Reply with quote

Hello.

I've installed both Unreal Tournament and Quake III with Winex but the performance is really low.

Both games are unplayable...

Computer:
AMD XP 1900+
256mb ddr pc2700
Hercules ATI Radeon 8500LE 128mb ddr

I use the latest drivers from ATI for my graphics card. Is there something I missed to configure?

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both unreal tournament and Quake3 have linux ports, why would you use WineX?

emerge unreal-tournament-436(i think) and emerge quake3
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2002 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah! What a total waste of resources :evil:
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2002 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strange. Make sure opengl is working properly. Try running 'glxgears' (on my P4 1.7 with a Geforce 2 I get 1000+ fps). Glxgears might be a program installed with the Nvidia drivers, if that's the case try some Opengl screensavers that are included in Xscreensaver.

Second, there have been some issues with gentoo-sources and Wine(X), particulary with some Blizzard games such as Warcraft III and Starcraft, so it might be worth trying the vanilla-sources. You should be able to find some threads that cover the gentoo-sources in particular.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2002 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm running 2.4.20 vanilla patched with the SGI xfs patches and have had no problem with winex.

(gfx card is a gf2 gts on a p3 1ghz machine)

Code:

bash-2.05a$ glxgears
9389 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1877.800 FPS


glxgears is a standard xfree tool:
Code:

bash-2.05a$ qpkg -f -I *glxgears*
x11-base/xfree *
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2002 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DO NOT USE WINE TO RUN THESE GAMES, THEY HAVE BINARIES FOR LINUX!

Are we there yet? :evil:
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2002 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hehe woops... :)

I installed Quake3 with winex... But, I installed Unreal Tournament by typing:
emerge unreal-tournament (I think)... and the performance in UT is not good, not even playable. I also tryed "Tux Racer" but it's also unplayable.

Code:
$ glxgears
379 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.800 FPS


Something tells me that's not good? :-)
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2002 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I emerged Quake3 from the portage and now it wont start.

Code:
You are using software Mesa (no hardware acceleration)!


That should explain it. Does any one know how to fix this?

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2002 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well you probably dont have your drivers installed correctly. I know that there are drivers in the kernel that will give you some basic functionality with open gl. If you installed those and you still have those low glxgears fps then try running glxgears and glxinfo as root. If that gives significant improvement you can fix it by changing permissions. Also there are "official" drivers from ati now available. I have NO experience with them, but you could try them out. Anyway, tell us if you have the neccisary things in the kernel set for radeon's and if so then if the glxinfo out put is different as root than as a user? And if all else fails you can try the official ati drivers, they should be on ati's website if you do a search in the drivers section. Good luck
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2002 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use the official drivers from ATI, I will try to reinstall them.

I get the same bad results with glxgears if I run it as root.

I have not done any changes in the kernel, I did look around a bit but couldn't find anything related to Radeon. I use the 2.4.19 kernel.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2002 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could also try the DRI drivers instead of ATI's drivers - they work for me!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2002 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The glxinfo command's output can show definately whether or not the drivers you installed are working right. ATI's drivers appear (I haven't used them, but I read the install information) to build a kernel module. So did that all work out well? And if it built the module correctly, is it getting loaded when you boot or otherwise? Thats all I can think of for now, checking glxinfo, and seeing if the module is getting loaded.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2002 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try a good ole
Code:
# opengl-update xfree

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2002 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:

$ glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: No
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
client glx vendor string: SGI
client glx version string: 1.2
client glx extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context,
    GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float
GLX extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
OpenGL vendor string: VA Linux Systems, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.2 Mesa 3.4.2
OpenGL extensions:
    GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_blend_color,
    GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract
glu version: 1.3
glu extensions:
    GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess

   visual  x  bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer  ms  cav
 id dep cl sp sz l  ci b ro  r  g  b  a bf th cl  r  g  b  a ns b eat
----------------------------------------------------------------------
0x23 24 tc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  0 16  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x24 24 tc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  0 16  8 16 16 16  0  0 0 None
0x25 24 dc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  0 16  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x26 24 dc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  0 16  8 16 16 16  0  0 0 None


That's my output from glxinfo.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2002 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you most probably have a wrong or borken link to your opengl libraries. take a look at this:

http://dri.sourceforge.net/help.phtml
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