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Verted
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 Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:27 pm Post subject: Gentoo has spoiled me! |
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Today, after searching portage for a program, I noticed that it wasnt there. Libnetmd. I was shocked! - Portage, not having something? Surely not!? Anyways, I rubbed my eyes, and surely it was true.
No problem I thought, I'll just download the tarball. Download finished. Then I realised, I dont know what the hell to do with it. I'm so used to just emerging stuff straight from portage, that I've only ever installed from a tarball once, a while ago, and cant remember how to do it.
Anyone able to remind me?
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hds
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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usually there is a file called INSTALL or README or whatever in the tarball.
anyway, unpack the tarball to /usr/local/src
go to the directory /usr/local/src/yourapp
./configure
make
make install
this is the most common behaviour. |
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zenwhen
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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I thought Gentoo "taught you how linux works" unlike Redhat and the "newb distros".
I suppose that was BS. |
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frippz
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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Uh, why unpack the tarball in /usr/local/src? Why not just unpack it in your home directory and configure and make the package as a non-root user, then switch to root and install it.
Better yet; read the guide on how to roll your own ebuilds.  |
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nightm4re
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:00 am Post subject: |
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| zenwhen wrote: | I thought Gentoo "taught you how linux works" unlike Redhat and the "newb distros".
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yeah, cuz redhat teaches you how to do this too.. rpm -i something.rpm
(or whatevr it is, its been like 4 years since i've been on redhat)
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:02 am Post subject: |
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| zenwhen wrote: | I thought Gentoo "taught you how linux works" unlike Redhat and the "newb distros".
I suppose that was BS. |
Go troll somewhere else.
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Dud3!
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 2:32 am Post subject: |
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Dude, you should have used slackware for a few months like I did, you'll NEVER forget how to compile from source.
Unpack somewhere (I had an "uncompressed" dir on another HDD), cd to it, ./configure, make, make install. Track down a dep when configure fails (or halfway through the compile), build that, track down another dep when it fails again, on and on until you get it installed. If you get it installed.... 
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:54 am Post subject: |
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| Dud3! wrote: | Dude, you should have used slackware for a few months like I did, you'll NEVER forget how to compile from source.
Unpack somewhere (I had an "uncompressed" dir on another HDD), cd to it, ./configure, make, make install. Track down a dep when configure fails (or halfway through the compile), build that, track down another dep when it fails again, on and on until you get it installed. If you get it installed.... |
Ahh, I remember those days. It was Linux From Scratch for me though. Good times! |
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nightm4re
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don't forget to sudo make install (or su if you don't use sudo, but why not?  )
a normal user can't write to /usr/local/whatever.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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| denstark wrote: | | zenwhen wrote: | I thought Gentoo "taught you how linux works" unlike Redhat and the "newb distros".
I suppose that was BS. |
Go troll somewhere else. |
Dude, he's right! I find it amusing that a Gentoo user isn't reading the docs, though... the tarball should contain a lot of documentation. 
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| Its more like the forums spoil people not gentoo. The first problem someone runs into they come in here and ask before they even look in the man page or search google. Most of the problems I've helped people with took me a matter of seconds to figure out simply by typing man <program_name_here> |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| downpour wrote: | | Its more like the forums spoil people not gentoo. The first problem someone runs into they come in here and ask before they even look in the man page or search google. Most of the problems I've helped people with took me a matter of seconds to figure out simply by typing man <program_name_here> |
Well, at least we don't come off saying
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Better to answer them nicely and point them to the correct source of documentation.
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Dud3!
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| d4rk74m4 wrote: | | Dud3! wrote: | Dude, you should have used slackware for a few months like I did, you'll NEVER forget how to compile from source.
Unpack somewhere (I had an "uncompressed" dir on another HDD), cd to it, ./configure, make, make install. Track down a dep when configure fails (or halfway through the compile), build that, track down another dep when it fails again, on and on until you get it installed. If you get it installed.... |
Ahh, I remember those days. It was Linux From Scratch for me though. Good times! |
I started LFS in 2001, but I couldn't do it on dial-up. I got the very basics but the rest was too much for DU and I didn't have anywhere to go and download stuff (I was stuck in TN at the time).
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vonhelmet
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Athas wrote: | | denstark wrote: | | zenwhen wrote: | I thought Gentoo "taught you how linux works" unlike Redhat and the "newb distros".
I suppose that was BS. |
Go troll somewhere else. |
Dude, he's right! I find it amusing that a Gentoo user isn't reading the docs, though... the tarball should contain a lot of documentation. |
He is indeed right. We get so used to portage doing it all for us! These days I find Gentoo is actually easier than a lot of other distros.
Anyway, it's pretty easy. Configure; make; make install. Job done.
And yes, you shouldn't su until the make install stage.
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