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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:55 pm    Post subject: Laptop Buying Questions Reply with quote

I was wondering, in short... if theres a well-reputed place or three that I can purchase a laptop without all the software, etc? Basically, looking for a pretty 'high-end' laptop but not from Dell or HP, I don't want Windows, I'd gladly use a PowerPC but don't really want a Mac.

If there aren't any places that sell 'empty' ones, where do you guys recommend I get a high-end laptop with the least amount of crap? Like I said, Mac/PC doesn't matter... I plan to put Gentoo on it.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use Google to search for 'linux certified laptops".
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy an IBM Thinkpad T series. Good, stable machines, with everything working.
I would recommend a T41p or T42p with 14'' (not 15'' ones => too big for me) 1400x1050 resolution, atheros based wifi card, extended battery. Gives you a 2.3kg machine that is something between ultraportable and ultraperformant.

Sell Windows on ebay.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You cannot legally sell an OEM version of Windows.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sell it to a un suspecting or unknowing relative!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lagrima wrote:
sell it to a un suspecting or unknowing relative!

Statements like that and, the comment above about selling an OEM license on ebay are one reason why free software, like Linux, is not as popular as is could be.

Why should someone make the effort to switch to Linux from Windows when there can and, are often encouraged, to steal or buy illegal copies of Windows?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going back on topic, the OP may want to take a look at linux-laptop and TuxMobil.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

neilhwatson wrote:
lagrima wrote:
sell it to a un suspecting or unknowing relative!

Statements like that and, the comment above about selling an OEM license on ebay are one reason why free software, like Linux, is not as popular as is could be.

Why should someone make the effort to switch to Linux from Windows when there can and, are often encouraged, to steal or buy illegal copies of Windows?


everyone that ive talked to so far does not want to relearn to switch to linux but your entitled to your opinion. i always say sell it to a relative because im sure grandma doesnt mind paying you 5 bucks or some retarded price to get that headache windows out of your hand. but if you wanna install and teach grandmama work around on linux, your more than welcome to try :wink:
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

inode77 wrote:
Buy an IBM Thinkpad T series. Good, stable machines, with everything working.
I would recommend a T41p or T42p with 14'' (not 15'' ones => too big for me) 1400x1050 resolution, atheros based wifi card, extended battery. Gives you a 2.3kg machine that is something between ultraportable and ultraperformant.

Sell Windows on ebay.


Thinkpads are awesome, also you might want to check out some of the transmeta machines.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at some IBM ones,

Can anyone tell me what they know about "Intel Extreme Graphics 2" for a graphics card?

I basically want a small, but 'powerful' laptop to use mostly console (and some framebuffer browsing, rarely movies) linux stuff... so I don't need any 3D effects or anything... but I do need good framebuffer and 2D linux support.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.emperorlinux.com
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy crap those are expensive for their hardware...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

brettlpb wrote:
Can anyone tell me what they know about "Intel Extreme Graphics 2" for a graphics card?

I have "Intel Extreme Graphics" 845G graphics controller. I didn´t have any problems with framebuffer or running movies. So far I could run everything I need ... except Doom 3 demo :( ... for other stuff it is OK.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Intel chipset should be great for what you're after - it won't do games well (although it's acceptable on older ones - Deus Ex runs nicely on my laptop) but it's reasonable and for 2d stuff it'll be great.

With the Windows thing, technically you can return it - it says very early on that you may return it for a full refund. In practice this is easier said than done of course...
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