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craig-gentoo
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:21 pm    Post subject: gentooing a EPIA M10000 ITX Reply with quote

while I wait for the protage to be installed a 9th time I thought I'd post a list of grievance

I have not been successfull yet... close but not close enough. Attempt 8 I got as far as the reboot but grub just listed some commands for me to try none of which I had any idea what to do with or if I could get it to boot by using them. So once again starting from the beginning

That would have to be my chief complaint:
It woulld probably add quite a bit of text to the guide but a recovery method at some of the key juctions in the installation rather than starting all over again would be helpfull.

Suggested recovery explainations:
when chroot fails as in "illegal command"
I get this error I've decided if I try to install the 2.6 kernel. I've received a couple bits of advice but they have not worked. Only begiinnng once again and installling stage3-2004.2.4.xxxxx works for me.

A couple of times I've forgotten to put the -C /mnt/etc/usr (think that's the text) when tar ing the portage. I'd like to know how to remove whatever it wrote to my /hdc3 without having to start alll over again.

I'm sure a few other locations within the guide where we could possibly recover so howto's would help


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you booted and you got to grub, did it say like at the
Quote:
"Grub is a minimal bash like ..etc etc"

then you're left with
Quote:
grub>


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
then you're left with

Quote:
Quote:
grub>


yes I was stuck at a grub> prompt
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, then it seems to me, you installed grub right, but something might be wrong with your grub.conf, can you post that on here?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish I could but I can not. I have a new reinstall on hold. I wanted to wait to see what you'd say before going ahead.

I need to decide if I want to genkernel or not.
I suppose I should not because that's the most recent method I used and the one that gave me that grub > prompt

all I can remember is that I nano into the grub.conf and it comes up with three lines that I edit.

They contain
xxxx BOOT
xxxx ROOT
xxxx????? SWAP ???

and I tried (as best as I can recalll)
xxxx hdc1
xxxx hdc3
xxxx hdc2

I've still a kernel to build or I would emerge grub and then I could look at the grub.conf
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well your grub.conf should look something like this, i'll post mine:
Quote:

default 0
timeout 10
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title=Gentoo (nitro)
root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.6.9-rc3-nitro2 root=/dev/hda5 vga=0x318

title=Gentoo (Coldfire)
root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.6.8-coldfire1 root=/dev/hda5 vga=0x318

title=Gentoo (gentoo-r7)
root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.6.8-gentoo-r7 ro init=/linuxrc real_root=/dev/hda3 ramdiskk=8192 video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr vga=0x318 splash=verbose,theme:emergence
initrd /boot/fbsplash-emergence-1024x768


as far as genkernel or by hand, i compile my kernels by hand, then i change the name from vmlinuz-<insert kernel version here> to kernel-<kernel version>
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes that should help using your grub.conf for reference.

I just started the hand compile. It took me up until this moment to decipher a suggested epia guide over on www.alterself.com

now to figure out how to add the recommended modules while the compile finnishes

thanks for the pointers
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My grub.conf on my EPIA:

Code:

title=Gentoo Linux (FIREWALL)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc real_root=/dev/hda1 vga=0x317
splash=verbose
initrd /boot/initrd


and my /etc/fstab:

Code:


# NOTE: If your BOOT partition is ReiserFS, add the notail option to opts.
#/dev/BOOT              /boot           ext2            noauto,noatime         1 1
/dev/hda1               /               ext3            noatime                0 0
/dev/hda2               none            swap            sw                     0 0
#/dev/cdroms/cdrom0     /mnt/cdrom      iso9660         noauto,ro              0 0
#/dev/fd0               /mnt/floppy     auto            noauto                 0 0


Hope this helps.

BE SURE TO NOTE THAT THE VIA C3 IS NOT AN i686!!!!!

Than one burned me hard. My make.conf

Code:

CFLAGS="-O3 -march=i586 -m3dnow -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
CHOST="i386-pc-linux-gnu"
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah nuts
# emerge -verbose emu10k1
quit on me.... error:

checking for gcc
checking wheater the C compiler (gcc -0s -march=i686 -mss3 -mmmx -mfpmath=sse -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer) works....no
configure error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler canot create executables
syslibs/gpm-1.20.1 failed

maybe it was the -march=i686

once again is to see if I can recover without having to start all over again
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, it depends on the board itself. Nehimiah boards are considered i686.. do a cat /proc/cpuinfo to find out if you're running a VIA Nehimiah or Ezra. Nehimiah is the i686, Ezra is the i586.

My (Nehimiah) uses
Code:
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=i686 -msse -mmmx -mfpmath=sse -Os -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anasazi wrote:
Actually, it depends on the board itself. Nehimiah boards are considered i686.. do a cat /proc/cpuinfo to find out if you're running a VIA Nehimiah or Ezra. Nehimiah is the i686, Ezra is the i586.
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cat /proc/cpuinfo say's its a Ezra
my receipt from "Casetronic" say :
VIA EPIA m10000 Nehemiah

what gives?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teh evil salesmen strike again!

It looks like you have an Ezra. You probably have to start again. :(
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

others might want to check this web site for futher information on this current issue. just what chip is it

http://www.viaarena.com/Default.aspx?PageID=5&ArticleID=61
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Makes sense. In that case, I would go with what the website says for your CPU. :)

Oh yeah, good luck drowning yourself in the info from epiawiki.. that wiki needs a serious update...

Are you using one of the pre-built kernels or doing an -epia patch?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anasazi wrote:
Are you using one of the pre-built kernels or doing an -epia patch?


I've tried both stage3-i638.2.6 and stage3-ix86.2.4.26

I've had a problem with the 2.6 kernel not being able to chroot reporting error "undefined command"

Using the 2.4.26 kernel I can get at least as far as the reboot but then run into other assorted problems.

Last nights effort (having deciphered some of the options suggested epia-wiki ) and trying them may have caused me further head aches.

I'm really a novice at compiling a kernel. For instance installing modules. This is a process of telling the kernel what to load during the boot. They are not place in the Master Boot Sector (or what ever it is called). Can you enlighten me?

I guess what I really need to know is how to get to a simple installation where I have the basics. My HD and CDROM , my eth0, my USB with CD Burner, VGA video.... let me see what else and hopefully being able to run a GUI like GNOME so I can once again click.

Once there then I'd like to try and beef up the system with a enhanced kernel.

I've presented the discovery of the Ezara cpu to my supplier/retailer. It's possibility they will send a replacement. VIA said they, 2 years ago shipped the 993 Ezara as a Nehemiah and then gradually replaced them with the 1000 mHz cpu. The supplier and VIA are in discussions as I write this. I'm not holding my breath. Now that I know just what I have I have no real concern which cpu I'm running off of.
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