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Gradaz Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 11 Nov 2002 Posts: 101 Location: Strongbadia
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:52 pm Post subject: Brief Firefox freezes. |
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| I am using mozilla-firefox-bin package. While I browse firefox briefly freezes for about 1 second, then it continues to work normally. I noticed that CPU usage remain low or zero during the freeze moments. Is this a known issue? How can I troubleshoot it without any error to start from. |
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Mattwolf7 n00b

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 73
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I have been noticing that too, it just stops every once in a while.
Usually when switching tabs or minimizing/maximizing for me.
Anyone else? (No bug found on https://bugs.gentoo.org/ )
| Code: | Portage 2.0.51_rc7 (default-x86-2004.2, gcc-3.4.2, glibc-2.3.4.20040808-r0, 2.6.8-gentoo-r3 i686)
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System uname: 2.6.8-gentoo-r3 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+
Gentoo Base System version 1.5.3
ccache version 2.3 [enabled]
Autoconf: sys-devel/autoconf-2.59-r4
Automake: sys-devel/automake-1.8.5-r1
Binutils: sys-devel/binutils-2.15.90.0.1.1-r3
Headers: sys-kernel/linux26-headers-2.6.8.1
Libtools: sys-devel/libtool-1.5.2-r5
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86 ~x86"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CFLAGS="-O3 -march=athlon-xp -mtune=athlon-xp -ftracer -fprefetch-loop-arrays -fmove-all-movables -fforce-addr -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -fPIC"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
COMPILER=""
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3.3/env /usr/kde/3.3/share/config /usr/kde/3.3/shutdown /usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/share/config /var/qmail/control"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d"
CXXFLAGS="-O3 -march=athlon-xp -mtune=athlon-xp -ftracer -fprefetch-loop-arrays-fmove-all-movables -fforce-addr -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -fPIC"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="autoaddcvs ccache distlocks sandbox"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://gentoo.osuosl.org http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo"
MAKEOPTS="-j2"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="X alsa apm arts avi berkdb bitmap-fonts cdr crypt cups encode foomaticdb gdbm gif gpm gtk gtk2 imlib java jpeg kde libg++ libwww mad mikmod motif mpeg ncurses nls nptl oggvorbis opengl oss pam pdflib perl png ppds python qt quicktime readline sdl slang spell ssl svga tcpd truetype usb x86 xml2 xmms xprint xv zlib"
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And I am using prelink |
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pjp Administrator


Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 19825
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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Moved from Other Things Gentoo. _________________ Quis separabit? Quo animo? |
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Emperor n00b


Joined: 09 Jul 2002 Posts: 54 Location: Enschede, The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 2:32 am Post subject: |
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Yea, i had the same thing. Ill see if i can find a pattern. _________________ What is this "signature" thing you are talking about? |
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rmorris n00b


Joined: 05 Apr 2003 Posts: 5 Location: Victoria, Canada
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 2:45 am Post subject: |
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| This might just not be firefox. I'm running mozilla 1.7.3 and getting the same pauses, and it seems to have started after I installed xfree-4.3.0-r7 |
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cooljoe2003 n00b


Joined: 02 Apr 2004 Posts: 46 Location: Jamestown, NC
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 4:39 am Post subject: |
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you know whats funny, i use firefox on windows at school, it does the same thing, I thought it was just configured incorrectly or something... _________________ Mount Jones [dot] Net
It has been my experience that there are two kinds of liars in the world:
The ones that say they don't masturbate, and
The ones that say they quit. |
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Locke355 Tux's lil' helper

Joined: 21 May 2002 Posts: 98
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 9:06 am Post subject: |
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| i have the same problem. started in 0.9 i believe ( i know i didn't have the problem in 0.8 ) |
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Gradaz Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 11 Nov 2002 Posts: 101 Location: Strongbadia
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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| I am running xorg, not xfree. My kernel version is 2.6.9 nitro. Anyone have this problem with 2.4 kernel? |
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Pip101 n00b


Joined: 30 Mar 2004 Posts: 62 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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I'm currently running vanilla 2.4.26 and have it, but I also had it on everything from when I first installed Gentoo 1.4 last August. Never seen it in Windows, just thought it was a FF & Linux bug and learned to live with it as it's only a minor annoyance. I would of course be interested in why and fixing it if possible, though.
I generally only see it when I have lots of tabs open, more likely if a few of those tabs are still loading. |
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Gradaz Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 11 Nov 2002 Posts: 101 Location: Strongbadia
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| I usally work with 1-3 tabs, and I experience it with one tab open. I am using prelink. I wonder if everyone sees no CPU usage during the freezes and if everyone uses prelink? |
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Mattwolf7 n00b

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 73
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, can everyone post your
And say if you prelink or not |
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Pip101 n00b


Joined: 30 Mar 2004 Posts: 62 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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I've been watching the CPU usage when it does it with top on 1 second refresh intervals, so can't always see that much of a difference. It does seem to spike a bit, and I think ~78% was the most I saw. Mostly only ~30%ish though. I'm not currently using the -bin package by the way, but I did see it when I was. No prelinking.
My emerge info: | Code: | Philips root # emerge info
Portage 2.0.50-r11 (default-x86-2004.2, gcc-3.3.4, glibc-2.3.3.20040420-r1, 2.4.26)
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System uname: 2.4.26 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1700+
Gentoo Base System version 1.4.16
distcc 2.16 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port 3632) [disabled]ccache version 2.3 [enabled]
Autoconf: sys-devel/autoconf-2.59-r4
Automake: sys-devel/automake-1.8.5-r1
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CFLAGS="-mcpu=athlon-xp -march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
COMPILER=""
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3.3/share/config:/usr/kde/3.3/env:/usr/kde/3.3/shutdown /usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/lib/mozilla/defaults/pref /usr/share/config /var/qmail/control"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d"
CXXFLAGS="-mcpu=athlon-xp -march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="autoaddcvs ccache sandbox"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://gentoo.osuosl.org http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo"
MAKEOPTS="-j2"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage /usr/local/portage-xfce4beta"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="3dnow 3dnowex X aalib acpi apm arts artswrappersuid avi berkdb bitmap-fonts crypt cups divx4linux dvd encode esd foomaticdb gdbm gif gnome gpm gtk gtk2 imagemagick imlib jp2 jpeg kde libcaca libg++ libwww mad mikmod mmx mmx2 mng motif mozilla moznocompose moznoirc moznomail mpeg msn ncurses nls ntlm offensive oggvorbis opengl operanom2 oss pam pdflib perl png python qt quicktime readline rtc samba sdl slang spell sse ssl svg svga tcltk tcpd tiff truetype wifi wmf x86 xine xml2 xmms xpm xprint xv xvid zlib" |
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darkphader Veteran


Joined: 09 May 2002 Posts: 1212 Location: Motown
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Same problem here for quite some time now. It seems to be waiting for something, cruising along fine and then bam, stops for awhile. I think it happens more often when a page contains javascript (which is virtually all of them).
Chris _________________ WYSIWYG - What You See Is What You Grep |
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Mattwolf7 n00b

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 73
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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hmm ok, well there is a new FF, lets see what happens with it.
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[ebuild U ] net-www/mozilla-firefox-1.0_pre-r2 [1.0_pre-r1] |
Update coming soon. |
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jkruer01 Apprentice


Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 214 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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hey, I noticed this too, but I noticed it at a different time. I noticed that when I am logging in to a site, or anywhere that has a password form field, that when I tab to the password field, I type my password and it takes it about 3-5 seconds before it fills in the field.
Has anyone else noticed this, or should I start a new thread?
Thanks! |
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karmapolice n00b

Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 54
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Sir_Stinksalot Apprentice


Joined: 26 Jul 2002 Posts: 195 Location: Behind you. BOO!!!
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| so has anyone come up with a solution to this or no? I have been having this problem for a while I can't remember when it started. Anyway I thought it was my switch to xorg but I see some of you run xfree. Anyway my symptoms are freezing for about 2-5 seconds when switching windows or filling in an address or google search bar or even forms on the web. If I ignore the freeze I can keep on typing and it will eventually catch up but this is a nasty littls annoyance. |
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John-Boy Guru


Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 442 Location: Desperately seeking moksha in all the wrong places
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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I thought this was just me, yep I'm having the same probs. Started around 0.9 or so - a brief pause when attempting to fill a box in or click a link.
I'm prelinked here and Firefox is complied. |
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Sir_Stinksalot Apprentice


Joined: 26 Jul 2002 Posts: 195 Location: Behind you. BOO!!!
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| just for the record I did not prelink at first then I did ran firefox-bin then compiled firefox so I ran the whole gambit. |
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JLP Tux's lil' helper

Joined: 13 Sep 2003 Posts: 143 Location: Slovenia
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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I also have the freezes. For me they also hapen when I try to select the text in adress/URL bar with my mouse. _________________ Live long and prosper! |
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Sir_Stinksalot Apprentice


Joined: 26 Jul 2002 Posts: 195 Location: Behind you. BOO!!!
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| well here I am still freexing every once in a while everytime a new window is opened and try to type in the address bar or google search. I am using 1.0. Anyone find anything? |
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sprittwicht l33t


Joined: 04 Dec 2003 Posts: 644
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Here is another thread I opened on the german forum some time ago. No solution so far. I'm using Kernel 2.6 and had this freezing problem with Xfree earlier and now with Xorg. It started with Firefox 0.8x I think. But it's neither limited to Mozilla nor the GTK itself. I was having the same kind of lockups with Konqueror. Opera seems to be doing fine so far...
I don't know if Konqueror and Mozilla make heavy use of threading, but I read somewhere that these lockups are a common problem on older VIA-Boards (mine is a KT133a, for example) when excessive threading is used. Can anyone here confirm this? On the other hand I don't understand why I didn't have any problems before Firefox 0.8. :-/ |
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Sir_Stinksalot Apprentice


Joined: 26 Jul 2002 Posts: 195 Location: Behind you. BOO!!!
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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| I have a more recent kt333 chipset does that change things |
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darkphader Veteran


Joined: 09 May 2002 Posts: 1212 Location: Motown
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| sprittwicht wrote: | | I read somewhere that these lockups are a common problem on older VIA-Boards (mine is a KT133a, for example) when excessive threading is used. Can anyone here confirm this? |
I have stock Intel gear (board and processor) and experience these "pauses". _________________ WYSIWYG - What You See Is What You Grep |
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knopper Tux's lil' helper

Joined: 20 Apr 2002 Posts: 106 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:56 am Post subject: |
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I'm still having these problems today, whether I'm typing a new url, filling in a form or just scrolling it doesn't matter. Freezes vary from about 1-4 seconds which can be quite annoying sometimes.
Has anyone found a solution for this yet? |
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