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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:52 pm    Post subject: Brief Firefox freezes. Reply with quote

I am using mozilla-firefox-bin package. While I browse firefox briefly freezes for about 1 second, then it continues to work normally. I noticed that CPU usage remain low or zero during the freeze moments. Is this a known issue? How can I troubleshoot it without any error to start from.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I have been noticing that too, it just stops every once in a while.

Usually when switching tabs or minimizing/maximizing for me.

Anyone else? (No bug found on https://bugs.gentoo.org/ )

Code:
Portage 2.0.51_rc7 (default-x86-2004.2, gcc-3.4.2, glibc-2.3.4.20040808-r0, 2.6.8-gentoo-r3 i686)
=================================================================
System uname: 2.6.8-gentoo-r3 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+
Gentoo Base System version 1.5.3
ccache version 2.3 [enabled]
Autoconf: sys-devel/autoconf-2.59-r4
Automake: sys-devel/automake-1.8.5-r1
Binutils: sys-devel/binutils-2.15.90.0.1.1-r3
Headers:  sys-kernel/linux26-headers-2.6.8.1
Libtools: sys-devel/libtool-1.5.2-r5
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86 ~x86"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CFLAGS="-O3 -march=athlon-xp -mtune=athlon-xp -ftracer -fprefetch-loop-arrays -fmove-all-movables -fforce-addr -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -fPIC"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
COMPILER=""
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3.3/env /usr/kde/3.3/share/config /usr/kde/3.3/shutdown /usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/share/config /var/qmail/control"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d"
CXXFLAGS="-O3 -march=athlon-xp -mtune=athlon-xp -ftracer -fprefetch-loop-arrays-fmove-all-movables -fforce-addr -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -fPIC"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="autoaddcvs ccache distlocks sandbox"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://gentoo.osuosl.org http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo"
MAKEOPTS="-j2"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="X alsa apm arts avi berkdb bitmap-fonts cdr crypt cups encode foomaticdb gdbm gif gpm gtk gtk2 imlib java jpeg kde libg++ libwww mad mikmod motif mpeg ncurses nls nptl oggvorbis opengl oss pam pdflib perl png ppds python qt quicktime readline sdl slang spell ssl svga tcpd truetype usb x86 xml2 xmms xprint xv zlib"


And I am using prelink
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved from Other Things Gentoo.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, i had the same thing. Ill see if i can find a pattern.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This might just not be firefox. I'm running mozilla 1.7.3 and getting the same pauses, and it seems to have started after I installed xfree-4.3.0-r7
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you know whats funny, i use firefox on windows at school, it does the same thing, I thought it was just configured incorrectly or something...
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have the same problem. started in 0.9 i believe ( i know i didn't have the problem in 0.8 )
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am running xorg, not xfree. My kernel version is 2.6.9 nitro. Anyone have this problem with 2.4 kernel?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm currently running vanilla 2.4.26 and have it, but I also had it on everything from when I first installed Gentoo 1.4 last August. Never seen it in Windows, just thought it was a FF & Linux bug and learned to live with it as it's only a minor annoyance. I would of course be interested in why and fixing it if possible, though.

I generally only see it when I have lots of tabs open, more likely if a few of those tabs are still loading.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usally work with 1-3 tabs, and I experience it with one tab open. I am using prelink. I wonder if everyone sees no CPU usage during the freezes and if everyone uses prelink?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, can everyone post your

Code:
# emerge info


And say if you prelink or not
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been watching the CPU usage when it does it with top on 1 second refresh intervals, so can't always see that much of a difference. It does seem to spike a bit, and I think ~78% was the most I saw. Mostly only ~30%ish though. I'm not currently using the -bin package by the way, but I did see it when I was. No prelinking.

My emerge info:
Code:
Philips root # emerge info
Portage 2.0.50-r11 (default-x86-2004.2, gcc-3.3.4, glibc-2.3.3.20040420-r1, 2.4.26)
=================================================================
System uname: 2.4.26 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1700+
Gentoo Base System version 1.4.16
distcc 2.16 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port 3632) [disabled]ccache version 2.3 [enabled]
Autoconf: sys-devel/autoconf-2.59-r4
Automake: sys-devel/automake-1.8.5-r1
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CFLAGS="-mcpu=athlon-xp -march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
COMPILER=""
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3.3/share/config:/usr/kde/3.3/env:/usr/kde/3.3/shutdown /usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/lib/mozilla/defaults/pref /usr/share/config /var/qmail/control"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d"
CXXFLAGS="-mcpu=athlon-xp -march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="autoaddcvs ccache sandbox"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://gentoo.osuosl.org http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo"
MAKEOPTS="-j2"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage /usr/local/portage-xfce4beta"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="3dnow 3dnowex X aalib acpi apm arts artswrappersuid avi berkdb bitmap-fonts crypt cups divx4linux dvd encode esd foomaticdb gdbm gif gnome gpm gtk gtk2 imagemagick imlib jp2 jpeg kde libcaca libg++ libwww mad mikmod mmx mmx2 mng motif mozilla moznocompose moznoirc moznomail mpeg msn ncurses nls ntlm offensive oggvorbis opengl operanom2 oss pam pdflib perl png python qt quicktime readline rtc samba sdl slang spell sse ssl svg svga tcltk tcpd tiff truetype wifi wmf x86 xine xml2 xmms xpm xprint xv xvid zlib"
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same problem here for quite some time now. It seems to be waiting for something, cruising along fine and then bam, stops for awhile. I think it happens more often when a page contains javascript (which is virtually all of them).

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm ok, well there is a new FF, lets see what happens with it.

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[ebuild     U ] net-www/mozilla-firefox-1.0_pre-r2 [1.0_pre-r1]


Update coming soon.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey, I noticed this too, but I noticed it at a different time. I noticed that when I am logging in to a site, or anywhere that has a password form field, that when I tab to the password field, I type my password and it takes it about 3-5 seconds before it fills in the field.

Has anyone else noticed this, or should I start a new thread?

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

other firefox freezing threads:

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=226945&highlight=firefox+freezes

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=183093&highlight=firefox+freezes

unfortunately... no real solutions... :(
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so has anyone come up with a solution to this or no? I have been having this problem for a while I can't remember when it started. Anyway I thought it was my switch to xorg but I see some of you run xfree. Anyway my symptoms are freezing for about 2-5 seconds when switching windows or filling in an address or google search bar or even forms on the web. If I ignore the freeze I can keep on typing and it will eventually catch up but this is a nasty littls annoyance.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought this was just me, yep I'm having the same probs. Started around 0.9 or so - a brief pause when attempting to fill a box in or click a link.

I'm prelinked here and Firefox is complied.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just for the record I did not prelink at first then I did ran firefox-bin then compiled firefox so I ran the whole gambit.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also have the freezes. For me they also hapen when I try to select the text in adress/URL bar with my mouse.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well here I am still freexing every once in a while everytime a new window is opened and try to type in the address bar or google search. I am using 1.0. Anyone find anything?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is another thread I opened on the german forum some time ago. No solution so far. I'm using Kernel 2.6 and had this freezing problem with Xfree earlier and now with Xorg. It started with Firefox 0.8x I think. But it's neither limited to Mozilla nor the GTK itself. I was having the same kind of lockups with Konqueror. Opera seems to be doing fine so far...

I don't know if Konqueror and Mozilla make heavy use of threading, but I read somewhere that these lockups are a common problem on older VIA-Boards (mine is a KT133a, for example) when excessive threading is used. Can anyone here confirm this? On the other hand I don't understand why I didn't have any problems before Firefox 0.8. :-/
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a more recent kt333 chipset does that change things
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sprittwicht wrote:
I read somewhere that these lockups are a common problem on older VIA-Boards (mine is a KT133a, for example) when excessive threading is used. Can anyone here confirm this?


I have stock Intel gear (board and processor) and experience these "pauses".
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still having these problems today, whether I'm typing a new url, filling in a form or just scrolling it doesn't matter. Freezes vary from about 1-4 seconds which can be quite annoying sometimes.

Has anyone found a solution for this yet?
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