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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi there... need some help... i compiled xorg 6.7... haven been hanging out in forums and thus missed 6.8... anywayz... if i enable (dri/drm ??? forgot or was it mtrr) under xorg.conf to enable 3d accelaration, my x server will USUALLY hang when i kill it or shut it down... if it's disabled, then nother bad will happen..... anywayz, i'm using an ati radeon 9700 mobility card and the fglrx drivers.... also using the radeon framebuffer.... help please =) thanks in advance
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@blursmurf: Does the driver actually recognise your card (check the Xorg log)? I thought the Mobility 9700 still wasn't supported. In addition, the radeon framebuffer will often conflict with the fglrx driver, causing lockups when shutting down X or switching to a console with CTRL-ALT-F1 etc. Try using the VESA framebuffer instead.

@SirPreme: try setting "UseInternalAGPGART" to "no" then. This makes it use the kernel AGP support rather than the drivers, which has always been a bit iffy on KT400s. As I said earlier, you might want to try a 2.6 kernel as well, it has more up to date AGP support than 2.4.

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Is there any possibility to scale down the frequency or something like that? What can I do?

There's an option in the kernel config to enable the PowerNow! functionality for XP-M processors (at least in 2.6, I don't know about 2.4), and you can then emerge a daemon to control CPU speed (powernowd is one, there are others) or do it manually via a /proc entry. I don't know how much help this would be though, because it would typically switch to the highest frequency anyway when you started a game.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i followed this https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=1566763 other guide, and posted my problem with it at the end of the thread.

subsequently i tried the guide you mentioned and my problem with it is as follows:

Code:
X Window System Version 6.8.0
Release Date: 8 September 2004
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.27 i686 [ELF]
Current Operating System: Linux uranium 2.4.27 #13 Wed Sep 22 13:23:54 CDT 2004 i686
Build Date: 22 September 2004
        Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org
        to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
        (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Sep 22 13:49:42 2004
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
Using vt 7

   *** If unresolved symbols were reported above, they might not
   *** be the reason for the server aborting.

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11.  Server aborting


Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
         at http://wiki.X.Org
 for help.
Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.

XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
      after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.


again this is with 6.8.0-r1, as it seems that the ati-binary drivers will fix nothing, therefore there is no reason to rollback. however, if someone doesnt respond to this in the next few hours, i will likely try it anyway.

here is xorg.conf, per your request:

Code:
Section "Module"
    Load        "dbe"   # Double buffer extension

    SubSection  "extmod"
      Option    "omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
    EndSubSection

    Load        "type1"
    Load        "freetype"
    Load       "glx"
    Load       "dri"
EndSection

Section "Files"
    RgbPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/CID/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/local/"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Keyboard1"
    Driver      "kbd"
    Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
    Option "XkbRules"   "xorg"
    Option "XkbModel"   "pc101"
    Option "XkbLayout"  "us"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Mouse1"
    Driver      "mouse"
    Option "Protocol"    "Auto"
    Option "Device"      "/dev/mouse"
    Option "Emulate3Buttons"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier  "My Monitor"
    HorizSync   28-96
    VertRefresh 50-62
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "** ATI Radeon (generic)               [radeon]"
    Driver      "radeon"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier  "Screen 1"
    Device      "** ATI Radeon (generic)               [radeon]"
    Monitor     "My Monitor"
    DefaultDepth 24

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       8
        Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       24
        Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier  "Simple Layout"
    Screen "Screen 1"
    InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
   Mode 0666
EndSection



/var/log/Xorg.0.log available here: http://vord.rsc.cx/Xorg.0.log
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed

That's from your Xorg logfile. I'm not as familiar with the "radeon" driver as with the "fglrx" driver, but that usually indicates a problem, even though the third open attempt succeeds. How is your kernel AGP support configured? Are the correct modules loaded etc? Are there any AGP related errors in your "dmesg" output? Does setting any of the options listed in "man radeon" make a difference? Have you compiled Xorg with your non-hardened gcc?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the problem I have... Used to be if I did startx with root... or ran gdm from root (not init script)... it wouldn't do this... but then I ran fglrxconfig script and now it does it all the time.

(II) fglrx(0): PCI bus 1 card 0 func 0
(EE) fglrx(0): Given depth (8) is not supported by fglrx driver
(EE) fglrx(0): PreInitVisual failed
(EE) fglrx(0): R200PreInit failed
(II) fglrx(0): === [R200PreInit] === end
(II) UnloadModule: "fglrx"
(II) UnloadModule: "vgahw"
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.

my conf is a very simple conf... made by Xorg -configure and edited to have fglrx where ati was.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vord: Your signal 11 problem looks similar to the problems jfbilodeau and I are having: there is no clear error reported in Xorg.0.log, then the server segmentation faults.

Your Xorg.0.log file is very short, though, and it looks like the server crashes before fglrx loads. So perhaps your problem is a bit different.

In any case, I would like to get to the bottom of this "xorg + ati-drivers" segfault issue...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wasnt aware that a segfault was occuring ... where is this indicated?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vord: It says signal 11. According to "kill -l":

Code:
 1) SIGHUP       2) SIGINT       3) SIGQUIT      4) SIGILL
 5) SIGTRAP      6) SIGABRT      7) SIGBUS       8) SIGFPE
 9) SIGKILL     10) SIGUSR1     11) SIGSEGV     12) SIGUSR2
13) SIGPIPE     14) SIGALRM     15) SIGTERM     17) SIGCHLD
18) SIGCONT     19) SIGSTOP     20) SIGTSTP     21) SIGTTIN
22) SIGTTOU     23) SIGURG      24) SIGXCPU     25) SIGXFSZ
26) SIGVTALRM   27) SIGPROF     28) SIGWINCH    29) SIGIO
30) SIGPWR      31) SIGSYS      35) SIGRTMIN    36) SIGRTMIN+1
37) SIGRTMIN+2  38) SIGRTMIN+3  39) SIGRTMIN+4  40) SIGRTMIN+5
41) SIGRTMIN+6  42) SIGRTMIN+7  43) SIGRTMIN+8  44) SIGRTMIN+9
45) SIGRTMIN+10 46) SIGRTMIN+11 47) SIGRTMIN+12 48) SIGRTMIN+13
49) SIGRTMIN+14 50) SIGRTMAX-14 51) SIGRTMAX-13 52) SIGRTMAX-12
53) SIGRTMAX-11 54) SIGRTMAX-10 55) SIGRTMAX-9  56) SIGRTMAX-8
57) SIGRTMAX-7  58) SIGRTMAX-6  59) SIGRTMAX-5  60) SIGRTMAX-4
61) SIGRTMAX-3  62) SIGRTMAX-2  63) SIGRTMAX-1  64) SIGRTMAX


that's "SIGSEGV" or segmentation violation.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i see.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 10:49 pm    Post subject: Woo hoo! I found an error! Reply with quote

Hey all,

I finally manage to get X.org.0.log to cough up an error while turning UserInternalAGPGART to 'yes'. Here it is:

Code:

[...]
(II) fglrx(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA)
   Screen to screen bit blits
   Solid filled rectangles
   Solid Horizontal and Vertical Lines
   Offscreen Pixmaps
   Setting up tile and stipple cache:
      32 128x128 slots
      32 256x256 slots
      16 512x512 slots
(II) fglrx(0): Acceleration enabled
(II) fglrx(0): Direct rendering disabled
(II) Loading extension FGLRXEXTENSION
(II) Loading extension ATITVOUT
(==) RandR enabled
Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved!
Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o is unresolved!
(II) Setting vga for screen 0.
(II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
(II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
(II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST
[...]


Does that give anyone a clue as to why I'm getting unresolved symbols for glX? (No, I haven't disable OpenGL in my Make.conf...).

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had trouble with X/ATI/unresolved symbols when compiling with 3.4. I ran gcc-config 1, then emerge xorg-x11 ati-drivers.

After that everything was peachy again.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vord wrote:
if someone has a way of getting xorg-x11-6.8.0-r1 to work with radeon mobility m6 in 2.4.27, id like to hear it.


Try this

Rage3d.com/board is always a good place to seek help for radeon linux help.

Edit: Nevermind what I said, i was tired when i posted this.

both of you seem to be having compiling problems in some way or another =p
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:10 am    Post subject: I think we're onto something now... Reply with quote

sr20seth: Thanks for the suggestion. I think we're onto something now.

I still can't start X with GLX. However, after running 'gcc-config 1', I can now compile ati-drivers-3.9.0-r1. Originally, I could only compile ati-drivers-3.12.0 in the unstable tree.

I've recompiled xorg-x11, ati-drivers and the kernel (since the new module would not load). Is there something else I should look at recompiling?

Also, what does gcc-config do exactly?

Thanks. I think we'll get GLX working eventually!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gcc-config just switches between different major versions of gcc that you might have installed. If you run gcc-config -l, it'll show you which versions the numbers correspond to. Eg;
Code:
[1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.4
[2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.2

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there an actually OpenGL library (ie: Mesa), or does the ATI driver provide that library?

I'm trying to figure out which lib I might be missing :P
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The libraries for the ATI driver should be stored under /usr/lib/opengl/ati/lib. I can't think why they wouldn't be there. Were there any other errors in that log you posted?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there,

i hope i am right in this thread because my problem isn´t excactly about the driver.

I am having problems with my mobile 9600 and i want to try some configurations with my xorg.conf.

What would be an easy (hopefully automatic) way to figure out the modelines i could use for my widescreen display (using a DELL Inspiron 8600).

There are some modelines in the forum but none of them worked correctly for me.

Thx in advance.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again for your help Wedge_.

Wedge_ wrote:
The libraries for the ATI driver should be stored under /usr/lib/opengl/ati/lib. I can't think why they wouldn't be there. Were there any other errors in that log you posted?


I couldn't find any other errors. The ATI GL libs are there.

The only thing I can see is that I did not compile a package properly, and I'm trying to determine which. Is there something that would disable OpenGL in either xorg or the ATI drivers?
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The only thing I can see is that I did not compile a package properly, and I'm trying to determine which. Is there something that would disable OpenGL in either xorg or the ATI drivers?

I can't think of anything that would do that. It's possibly down to the compiler you're using as you mentioned above, or it may be something to do with your USE flags.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vord wrote:
rolling back only makes sense for those people who have a card supported by the binary drivers, if i understand correctly.


Hmm. Seems I didn't really think before I posted. Sorry about that.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"@SirPreme: try setting "UseInternalAGPGART" to "no" then. This makes it use the kernel AGP support rather than the drivers, which has always been a bit iffy on KT400s. As I said earlier, you might want to try a 2.6 kernel as well, it has more up to date AGP support than 2.4.

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"Is there any possibility to scale down the frequency or something like that? What can I do?"

There's an option in the kernel config to enable the PowerNow! functionality for XP-M processors (at least in 2.6, I don't know about 2.4), and you can then emerge a daemon to control CPU speed (powernowd is one, there are others) or do it manually via a /proc entry. I don't know how much help this would be though, because it would typically switch to the highest frequency anyway when you started a game."

This is what I did:
1) I changed to kernel 2.6
2) I used cpuspeedy and set the cpu frequency to the lowest avaible option.

Result:
I had the same problems.

What I really meant was if I could scale the frequency of the GPU. ??

I will try to use the external AGPGART modules soon.

One more think that seemed important for me: If I have a hangup in i. e. tuxracer, the music plays on without any problems.
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What I really meant was if I could scale the frequency of the GPU. ??

Nope, there aren't any clocking tools for Radeons under Linux, as far as I know anyway.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I set UseInternalAGPGART to NO, but it didn't help...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hum.... I tried to disable DRI and enable GLX, and now, it works. It seems that fglrx will work either with DRI or GLX enabled, but not both.

However, with GLX enable, I get terrible performance with glxgears. :x

Scanning the log, I've found further 'unresolved symbols'. Here are some interesting lines in Xorg.0.log:

Code:

[...]
(II) fglrx(0): driver needs XFree86 version: 4.3.x
(WW) fglrx(0): could not detect XFree86 version (query_status=-3)
(WW) fglrx(0): ***********************************************
(WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed!                  *
(WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) *
(WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO)             *
(WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available                *
(WW) fglrx(0): ********************************************* *
(II) fglrx(0): FBADPhys: 0xf0000000 FBMappedSize: 0x04000000
(==) fglrx(0): Write-combining range (0xf0000000,0x4000000)
(II) fglrx(0): FBMM initialized for area (0,0)-(1024,8191)
(II) fglrx(0): FBMM auto alloc for area (0,0)-(1024,768) (front color buffer - assumption)
(==) fglrx(0): Backing store disabled
(==) fglrx(0): Silken mouse enabled
(II) fglrx(0): Using hardware cursor (scanline 768)
(II) fglrx(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1024 x 7419
(II) fglrx(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA)
   Screen to screen bit blits
   Solid filled rectangles
   Solid Horizontal and Vertical Lines
   Offscreen Pixmaps
   Setting up tile and stipple cache:
      32 128x128 slots
      32 256x256 slots
      16 512x512 slots
(II) fglrx(0): Acceleration enabled
(II) fglrx(0): Direct rendering disabled
(II) Loading extension FGLRXEXTENSION
(II) Loading extension ATITVOUT
(==) RandR enabled
Symbol drmFree from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmFree from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmFree from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmUnmap from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmUnmap from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmUnmap from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmFree from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmFree from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmFree from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmUnmap from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmUnmap from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmUnmap from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmFree from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmFree from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmMap from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmMap from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmMap from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmMalloc from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmMalloc from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmFree from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmFree from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmMalloc from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmMalloc from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmFree from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmFree from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmMalloc from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol drmMalloc from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.a is unresolved!
Symbol DRIGetDrawableInfo from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmAgpBase from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmAgpSize from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmAgpEnable from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmAgpRelease from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmAgpDeviceId from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmAgpVendorId from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmAgpGetMode from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmUnmap from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmMap from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmUnmap from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmUnmap from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmMap from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmUnmap from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmMap from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol DRIGetDeviceInfo from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmMap from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmUnmap from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o is unresolved!
(II) Setting vga for screen 0.
[...]


Note that I don't get these errors if I enable DRI but not GLX. Also, I don't have the file /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o. Why would that be? I'm getting terribly confused with all this... :?

And further ideas?

Thanks again for your help on this!

edit: I have option "no_accel" and "no_dri" set to "no"


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry I forgot to mention that i had to recompile the kernel with gcc 3.3.x also. I believe that was all i had to recompile.
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