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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:43 am    Post subject: [SOLVED]vmware workstation with gentoo 64bit Reply with quote

dear friends,

i have an amd64 pc, and my os currently is win xp (32bit), i want to test gentoo linux,

i have vmware workstation 5.5 at my pc. and i download gento universal install (64bit)

but problems is here that my vmware workstation detect my cpu as a 32bit cpu. and gentoo 64bit
cant install on 32bit cpu.



please help me.


thanks all


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vmware simulates an entire PC -- effectively the same one regardless of actual hardware -- and that pc is 32-bit. So what you'll need is the 32-bit CD even though your actual computer is 64.

It's not really that bad. As things stand the only real benefit you might get from 64-bit is speed in some applications, and that's counterbalanced by some things (video playback and browser plugins are the obvious examples) being harder to get working than under 32-bit.

If you eventually decide to put gentoo on your main computer, you'll have to decide whether to run the 32-bit or 64-bit version (amd64 can handle both).
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry TNorthover, that's not true.
VMware does indeed simulate a pc, but v5.5 has a direct connection to the processor. In v5.5, I was able to run gentoo for amd64 on winXP32, as the topic starter has tried. I think I still have that vm in my dualboot-XP(32).

Topic starter: I don't know if all 5.5-xxxxx versions support 32bit host/64bit guest OS, but the version I used (5.5-15andthensome or something) never had any trouble with it. Also, you might want to check out this site.

note: if you want to test gentoo in ways of what does (not) work, you're fine with vmware. Just don't let the lower performance (which I experienced in vmware) stop you from using gentoo as your main OS.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, I didn't know it could emulate amd64, sorry for the misinformation. It appears to require certain revisions of the amd64 core though, that could be something to check.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:22 pm    Post subject: troebel : ave vmware 5.5.0 exactly. Reply with quote

please tell me, when u start to setup gentoo linux 64x on vmware,

what kind of linux you choose ?

when i chose any 64bit linux in vmware, vmare send a warning that : 64bit guest os are not supported by this host, and
will not run.

then when i try to install gentoo i have seen this message :



loading gentoo.................
loading gentoo.igz........................
.............................................................
..........................................
ready.
your cpu does not support long mode, use a 32bit distribution


please tell me that what kind of linux u chose ?

thanx again.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried to run the VMware test program to see if you have the right CPU (revision) to run a 64bit host?

www.vmware.com wrote:
Workstation 5.5 introduces support for virtual machines with 64-bit guest operating systems, running on host machines with the following processors:
  • AMD™ Athlon™ 64, revision D or later;
  • AMD Opteron™, revision E or later;
  • AMD Turion™ 64, revision E or later,
  • AMD Sempron™, 64-bit-capable revision D or later (experimental support);
  • Intel® EM64T VT-capable processors (experimental support).

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:43 pm    Post subject: my cpu is : AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3000+ 2.01Gh Reply with quote

please write me that during installation of gentoo linux on vmware, when u most select linux type, what is your choice ?

thanks, to your kindly helps
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:54 pm    Post subject: thanks troebel, i found problem. Reply with quote

vmware not suport my cpu for 64 bit os,

i have to download gentoo x86, again, :(
my internet connection is so slowly, and i most wait about 20 hours for gentoo download. :( :( :(

thanks again.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:18 am    Post subject: Re: thanks troebel, i found problem. Reply with quote

m.h.shams wrote:
vmware not suport my cpu for 64 bit os,

i have to download gentoo x86, again, :(
my internet connection is so slowly, and i most wait about 20 hours for gentoo download. :( :( :(

thanks again.


It does but you need a 64bit HOST OS in order to run a 64 bit os in vmware.

stupid me I worte quest OS :oops:
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:54 pm    Post subject: Re: thanks troebel, i found problem. Reply with quote

cold wrote:

It does but you need a 64bit HOST OS in order to run a 64 bit os in vmware.

Not true, as of v5.5, you can run 32/64bit host/guest in any combination if you have a supported CPU.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

64 guest OS does not work with my Athlon 64 revision D.
It seems it doesn't work with 13nm processors.
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