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Tobix
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 Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2002 6:29 pm Post subject: /usr/portage - does there exist a public NFS share? |
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I've just installed Gentoo. After hearing "gentoo is _so_ cool!" too many times, I actually got a bit disappointed anyway. Well, it _is_ better than all the other alternatives, anyway.
One of the things I find quite annoying is some bloatyness in /usr/portage - I'd like to have a small database of all available software locally, but I really don't appreciate to have ~100 MB with ebuild-scripts and other stuff locally - and I dislike rsync - it's damn slow for one thing. It was pointed out to me that I don't need to have all this stuff locally anyway; it's read-only data, and it can perfectly well exist at a NFS share.
So, the question is: does there exist any public NFS portage servers?
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Are you sure it's so big ?
It is the same as a cache... for fast rebuild of the system... you don't need to redownload/recompile everythink... it's juste there... I think it's good...
Sorry I don't know the answer of your question...
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| Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2002 9:35 pm Post subject: Re: /usr/portage - does there exist a public NFS share? |
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| Tobix wrote: | | So, the question is: does there exist any public NFS portage servers? |
no, sorry.
but its a good idea, if you have your own network, and you want to install eg the new kde, or something.
i think is silly to download all the sources, or download them manually.
and only the update-process of portage works with rsync.
if your dl rate is to slow, choose another mirror, or try to get broadband internet acess!
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Tobix
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| Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Are you sure it's so big ? |
I don't remember what I counted, and I temporary deleted it .. but somewhere between 20 and 100 megabytes.
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It is the same as a cache... for fast rebuild of the system... you don't need to redownload/recompile everythink... it's juste there... I think it's good...
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That's a reason for keeping the distfiles (should be an option on that, for most people it's better to fetch it again from the network) and the ebuild-files for the packages that are already installed, but not for _all_ packages.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: /usr/portage - does there exist a public NFS share? |
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no, sorry.
but its a good idea, if you have your own network, and you want to install eg the new kde, or something.
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I'll see if I can get such a thing hosted locally.
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only the update-process of portage works with rsync.
if your dl rate is to slow, choose another mirror, or try to get broadband internet acess!
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When I'm online, my connection is usually good - when I'm complaining the syncing is slow, it's because rsync is slow, not my network connection.
I don't like the attitude "get yourself a better connection" or "get yourself better hardware" - something I often meet when I'm complaining about bloatyness. Improving the resources is not always an option. I could be communicating through a satelite connection from Himalaya for all you knew.....  (...and I still do connect through a slow modem and a slow ISP when I'm visiting my parents-in-law...)
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I am currently investigating the possibilities for putting up a public NFS-share locally at td.org.uit.no.
I have a theory that if not only /usr/portage, but the whole /usr was shared out and all software compiled for i386, it could be possible to boot up gentoo just from a floppy (thus making the installation process simpler for people who have a network connection, but not a CD-ROM), test out software prior to the installation, etc. The programs should probably be installed not directly under /usr/, but rather something like /usr/nfs-share/ such that people could have /usr locally, but still mount up /usr/nfs-share.
It's a pretty nifty idea, isn't it? With gentoo, installation takes a lot of time - if the binaries was available through NFS, it would be possible to take a peek at the compiled package and see if it is worth the effort or not. Of course there would be security issues, though....
Any thoughts about this?
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