Microsoft IntelliMouse Optical Configuration

FxChiP · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Posts: 103

This doesn't seem to work for me

I have my IntelliMouse Optical plugged into the USB port, and I'm using HID in the kernel. The stupid thing is that no matter what I try, /dev/input/mouse0 never shows up but /dev/mouse does. Only my wheel button and left and right buttons seem to work (cat /dev/mouse does not show anything when I click the left or right side buttons or if I move the wheel).

Should I be using usbmouse? Would that affect the kernel's mouse resolution (set via the "input core" section)?

Ard Righ · Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 5:57 am Post subject:

pi-cubic · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 25 May 2003 Posts: 143

i found out something for all you guys having 2 mice and problems with the xmodmap command

FxChiP · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Posts: 103

FxChiP · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Posts: 103

Dear frickin' god, it didn't work for two reasons:

a.) My BIOS sucks at rerouting USB mouse signals to PS/2 accurately (i.e. discards characters that a three-button mouse doesn't typically make)

b.) I was using OHCI when my USB bus/hub/whatever was UHCI

I can use HID with it, probably usbmouse too (but I had to have that turned off so HID would be built in).

The key to it was understanding that Linux can do all of the mouse crap on it's own without BIOS help, since it has the understanding of the protocol built in and all...

*grins* It all works again. I may as well throw away my PS/2 converter. (the edges of it got bent one day...)

FxChiP · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Posts: 103

This is EXTREMELY STUPID, but I *THINK* I have the reasoning behind "ZAxisMapping '6 7'"

X, for some reason, doesn't like it when the last two buttons aren't the wheel, so it disregards them or something.

You set xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5" to make X read 4 and 5 (the REAL mouse wheel) as 6 and 7 (the mouse wheel as defined to X). This effectively routes the real wheel to X's definition. X doesn't care much about the "4 and 5" thumb buttons, so those get routed to 6 and 7 where they belong.

Enter imwheel. Somehow, it gets access to X. However, because of the xmodmap, "4 and 5" are read as 6 and 7. imwheel -b 67 makes imwheel think that 6 and 7 (remember that the thumb buttons are considered extra by X and took up the 4 and 5 space before being routed back to their rightful 6 and 7 spot) mean up and down. Since X considers the thumb buttons to be active (since they're buttons, but not handled directly by X), it happily passes them along to imwheel as 6 and 7.

It's a matter of making both of them think the wheel is somewhere it isn't... and yet is. Yet it's required because X chops off 6 and 7 since they don't seem to serve any particular purpose (while for the ZAxisMapping 6 and 7, X has to keep 4 and 5 so that it doesn't screw up).

The reason some of you are having the "thumb buttons scroll up and down" problem is because you missed a step. You set the ZAxisMapping to 6 and 7, but for some reason xmodmap isn't running or you don't have it set to run. This makes the thumb buttons scroll (most likely).

I could most definitely be wrong, but this is how I think it works.

BTW: this is how the config file provided with imwheel gets broken. That config file isn't written to do the actions it contains on an up and down event, which is what's required for the IntelliMouse (Explorer/Optical) to work correctly.

It IS kind of a hack, I see that now.

nickc · n00b Joined: 22 Jun 2003 Posts: 30 Location: UK

Followed all this info but I can't for the life of me get the back and forward buttons to work

I have the MS Interlimouse Optical (Not the big explorer one). This has the normal left and right buttons a centre scroll wheel and two back and forward buttons on the side.

If we count the scroll button as two (Up and down) then I hve 6 buttons. It is PS/2.

XF86Config

Identifier "Mouse1"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
Option "Buttons" "6"
Option "ZaxisMapping" "5 6"
Option "Resolution" "1200"

I am using the xmodmap line:

xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 6 4 5"

Where am I going wrong? The scroll works just not the back and forward buttons.

I am testing this in Firebird and in GNOME Nautils just browsing files.

Any help _much_ appreciated!

Nick

pYrania · Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 9:24 pm Post subject:

you've got 7, the wheel is pressable.
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chiatello · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2003 12:45 am Post subject:

this is great, thanks man

Ard Righ · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2003 6:40 am Post subject:

nickc · n00b Joined: 22 Jun 2003 Posts: 30 Location: UK

pYrania · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2003 7:26 pm Post subject:

uhm i just noticed you're right.
this worked some time ago, but i never used this (appart from testing if it works)
dunno why it doesn't work anymore. I am sure there was no xmodmap update since then, has to be another problem.
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nickc · n00b Joined: 22 Jun 2003 Posts: 30 Location: UK

pYrania · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2003 8:00 pm Post subject:

same as yours.
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nickc · n00b Joined: 22 Jun 2003 Posts: 30 Location: UK

Right, I have noticed that using this setup my two side buttons are both functioning as "left click". This sounds like it's simply problem with mapping them to back and forward rather than left click.

Does anyone know how I can do this?

Thanks

cereal-chiller · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 9:04 pm Post subject:

Has anybody manage to get this to work with gtk2 aplications?
The buttons work with Xmms, but they dont with nautilus and Mozilla-1.4 (gtk2 apps)....
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ruronikenshin83 · n00b Joined: 25 Mar 2003 Posts: 42

For some reason, the compile flags that you use for imwheel seem to play a hand in whether or not it works well...

I had to step down from -march to -mcpu
(basically exactly what was written in defaults for /etc/make.conf)

And even then I still had to add:

neocui · Apprentice Joined: 21 Apr 2003 Posts: 186

I got it working in nautilus and mozilla 1.4 by recompiling imwheel with CFLAGS="-mcpu=i686 -O2 -pipe"

Bytal · Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 2:10 am Post subject:

Cereal: GTK2 apps have had some probs picking up the imwheel signals. What I had to resort to was to change my .imwheelrc to

solarium_rider · Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 1:30 am Post subject:

For those of you who prefer to make things nice an elegant, if you start imwheel w/ the line:

derlauer · n00b Joined: 25 Jan 2003 Posts: 15

all my buttons are working but my problem is that the wheel up/down is switched with the two side buttons. so if i press a side button the window scrolls up or down.

mouse: microsoft intelli optical
xf86config:

cvt · n00b Joined: 17 Aug 2003 Posts: 1 Location: to close mayne

I'm using a MS Exporer mouse...
I'm wanting to map the 2 side buttons to programs.. like.
Through all apps, I want the big button to launch "3ddesk" and the small button to be the enter key (works)
when running winex I want the big button to be "p" (or oter games aswell)

is that possible?

pi-cubic · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 25 May 2003 Posts: 143

cca93014 · Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:38 am Post subject:

Ok, I have things finally working now. Was very confused as to why it wasn't working until I realised that Firebird was running with gtk2. Currently my .imwheelrc file reads:

opello · n00b Joined: 01 Jul 2002 Posts: 35 Location: USA

This is a great thread

Should be added to the docs.

For people having the side buttons scroll (it's been mentioned a few times, as has the solution) all you have to do is change the 'pirority' of the devices (set the intellimouse as the "CorePointer" and the 'other pointers' (for me my laptop's trackpad/pointer stick) as "SendCoreEvents")

i've yet to do the imwheel stuff, but my wheel works with that information --

for scroll speed - i know normal mozilla has that in the prefs > advanced > mouse wheel, but i dunno about firebird (i would assume so)

EDIT:
imwheel isn't working, my config is: